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  • #64607
    Beware the Lamiae
    Beware the Lamiae
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    No problem man. Thanks for your input though I disagree a bit. I haven’t gotten knee deep in Barbarossa content on youtube for one reason or another but I have become exceedingly familiar with Stardusk and others, listening to all of their videos, sometimes twice. Not to kiss up to him, but if there is one man with his head on straight, its Stardusk; who I tend to agree with (or rather he reinforces and puts into words what I came to understand as a man already).

    When you decide that you want to know what he knows then you need to listen to the Stardusk compilation in depth and then dozens more of his other talks. (Thinking Ape TV Youtube or just type into Youtube Stardusk Compilation and listen for 8 hours–I’ve done it twice). MGTOW may have numerous new, casual or misinformed members who still engage in sexual activity with women but this is nothing more than men standing on the front steps of the MGTOW house and never entering. They are fence-sitters or still growing. Their stance is not to be mistaken with Going Your Own Way. And ultimately they are no different than normal men who are weary of marriage or happen to know some red-pill knowledge. Most of them are Tradcons or PUA sex addicts but just don’t know it.

    When truly going your own way, ceasing emotional or sexual interaction with women is just the beginning! We’re talking about becoming the men we are inside; developed and accomplished–becoming Male Human Beings instead of blue-pill human doings. We’ve re-purposed our lives and are truly liberated and active in pursuing our interests with a free mind. There’s no room for pussy begging. No man is going to stand here and tell me that his continued sexual interaction with women isn’t significantly hindering his progress in life or the serenity of his mind. From the start of the day to lights out, he is preoccupied with sex; secretly anxious to possibly get laid. This is the guy who deceives himself most and is the perfect prospect for women to manipulate. He is steered by his biological urges instead of conquering them and he is literally one smile from a woman away from becoming the biggest Sir Lancelot ever!

    As far as, why do I think sex is out of the question, I ask you, why do you think we’re going our own way? If sex was still on the table, why are we here? Why is there something called MGTOW anyway? I want to give you two groups of reasons why sex is out. One group of reasons is strictly for a singular male. The other group of reasons is for men at large.

    Why one man is celibate:

    STD’s—-Investigate the numbers at the CDC website for yourself. Women have no qualms with lying to you. We know this because they have no honor. If you think they do have honor, you haven’t listened to enough MGTOW content yet. You will be getting an STD soon if you are sexually active, I promise.

    Female Manipulation. To women, sex and their vagina is a sexual market place product to be traded for goods and services. There is no arguing this. We see it in our primate cousins too, apes trading sex for goods. Essentially, all women are prostitutes, this is just nature. They WILL manipulate your instinctual need to f~~~ as a means to an end whether it be emotional comfort, groceries, payment of parking ticket, bar room tab, attention, status symbol, to get at another man, to make other women or men jealous, to get revenge, to gain confidential knowledge of you or your home, to be secure in any form, to have a place to live, to get favors done like moving furniture, to try and get you to date their friend, to gain professional advancement……..the list is endless. Their vagina is their currency and they NEVER have sex just to have sex, you are being bought! In the rare case, she does just want to jump your bones because she needs a lay, don’t do it because she’s a nympho slut who definitely does have a disease. Even if she isn’t a whore or doesn’t have an STD, why would you give it to her? What is she going to do for you? Men don’t need anything from women, this is nature so whatever she intends to trade for your sex is valueless.

    Women are sub-consciously, or in some cases, consciously and deliberately trying to get pregnant. They buy pets and overly coddle other peoples children. They instinctively want to get knocked-up (even if they say they don’t want to.) Its a lie and I’ve experienced it firsthand. They WILL lie about not taking their birth control pill. They will poke holes in a condom. They will dump a freshly disposed condom into their vag. They will get prego by another man and trick you into a plethora of commitment during pregnancy or even after on the premise that you think its yours. They WILL lie to you about needing money for an abortion so to get a few hundred bucks out of you. Women don’t know WTF they want and are hysterical ALL the time, not just 3 days a month. They will swear up and down they have their mind made up and then do the exact opposite of what they said…like saying they’re on birth control and purposely not taking it. CHILD SUPPORT LAWS, men have NO reproductive rights! Why take that risk?

    Women are a 24/7 mind f~~~ that WILL cost you energy, mindspace, serenity, cash, liberty, time, happiness and health! Essentially you put ALL that at risk for access to a pussy and 10 seconds of ejaculation? It’s the equivalent of being a drug addict and trading limbs or your paycheck for a ‘high.’ Even if its a woman who only calls every few weeks and wants to go out. We’re talking serious effort and engagement to even get some simple pussy action and she is always selling it and you may never get it. The whole enterprise is empty, full of tremendous risk and severely overrated! A man Going His Own Way simply has no time for that bulls~~~ or risk.

    There are several other reasons why a single man would choose and should choose celibacy. things like risk or rape accusations or domestic violence. It happens, women get f~~~ing drunk and start fights. It happens all the f~~~ing time. They throw temper tantrums like f~~~ing kids, break appliances and furniture, they will attack you, curse at you, have the police called on you….etc….Why would we do that? Even if she is a NAWALT, I have better things to do than to entertain her life. I have paintings to paint and books to read, I have a hundred things to do as a man going his own way than to waste time and energy entertaining a woman for the chance to eat some pussy or cum.

    Why should Men At Large, stay celibate? Why is the end goal and ultimate purpose of MGTOW, celibacy?

    For starters, everything I said about a single man pertains here as well. But, lets say a man has a perfect NAWALT on his hands, why should he still strive for celibacy. For the good of all men!

    Hopefully you know what memes are. Memetics, memeplexes and so on. Obviously marriage is a f~~~ing joke and has been for 40 years since people f~~~ whoever they want outside of marriage. We’re dealing with a “free love” whore empire where women roam the land selling their pussies for 1st world material wealth. There are memes, learned behaviors that all women have picked up on. Memes are everywhere and they are reinforced daily by their use because they work or make sense. Misandry memes, Feminist memes, etc… Here’s some examples, “tough men don’t cry” “men are dumb” “men are easy and cheap” “you cant hit a girl” “man up!” “you can persuade a man to do anything for sex.” The kind of society where women can walk around and manipulate men like this is undesirable. This may sound conservative but its not beneficial for men, when women can get laid or hooked up with anything at the drop of a hat by using the promise of sex. It was better for us when women were expected to be loyal to men. IM NOT A TRADCON (traditional conservative) because traditionalism can never be returned to and I wouldn’t want to go back anyway.

    What Im trying to say here is that marriage is a failed institution. We can’t just get married and expect her to support us and stay loyal and never just get upset one day and ruin our whole life.

    But heres where they currently have us in a check mate. We can’t get married because its too dangerous on all fronts but we also SHOULD NOT STAY SEXUALLY ACTIVE AS BACHELORS. Why? Because we’re sponsoring and training the c~~~ carousel. We’re reinforcing feminist memes and keeping men down, keeping men valueless by allowing ourselves to be bought so easily with the simple wafting of some pussy odor. Men will kill to get that precious snapper and women now control everything because of it. The immoral and sexist laws, the constant attention seeking and manipulation, the epidemic of whoredom and STD’s…..its all from female biological instinct to manipulate men with sex. 

    You may think, “I’m so lucky tonight, I bought this chick like 5 beers and gave her a ride home and now she is f~~~ing me!” In truth, this is the most destructive thing you could have done for men at large. This is why MGTOW needs to be celibate in the end. We dont have time for this bulls~~~ games, petty rewards and titanic risks. He thinks he just got laid, no harm no foul, no commitment. All he did was legitimize that “men are cheap” and now another slut adds a notch to her belt and now she is better trained at using men so thanks for doing us all a solid by selling out. Women have 4 times as many sexual partners in their life as men because they choose when sex occurs. 20% of men receive sex consistently while 90% of women do. This is why women lead in being infected with STD’s, they spread eagle all the time to get what they want.

    Ultimately, MGTOW is by default, celibacy. When you’ve been Gone Your Own Way long enough and you’re a reasonably intelligent man, you can come to no other conclusion than to remain unmarried and sexually un-engaged. Not only is it good for you, but its the necessary step for men at large because its the only thing that will truly change how women treat men and how they engage themselves publicly as far as sexual discretion. This whoredom is disgusting and needs to be shown for what it is. The birth rate and economy is being ripped to shreds and it will not rebound until men collectively stop f~~~ing women. We have one leverage tool left and you all are still giving it away and perpetuating female manipulation. Of course there will always be some blue pill men who will not budge. Our mission is for women to run out of blue pill men so then they have to start playing by the rules.

     

    #64890
    Flightspace
    flightspace
    Spectator
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    The only MGTOW channel i’m subscribed to is Barbarossa. I also love listening to Erin Pizzey talk because she’s one of the real OGs in fighting for mens rights and she almost died for it. But i think its not enough to sustain you to only ever listen to one voice from one political movement. Philosophically, i take to Plato, Kant, Chomsky, Lao Tzu, Thomas Mathiesen… (learn about the synopticon and you will be glad you did, he’s the most relevant philosopher still alive today)

    I also like looking at a bit of pre-socratic philosophy, its pretty crazy how close Parmenides came to describing string theory, and the atomists correctly predicted the existence of atoms thousands of years in advance, though, not quite correctly how they work. Another great thinker to look into whos not quite a philosopher is Daniel Khaneman. His book “thinking fast and slow” will change your life. You will be surprised just how many popular ideas from modern psychology are based on misnomers from idiots who haven’t actually read his book, but have listened poorly to people who actually have and inserted their own assumptions. the whole, “rational / irrational” brain misnomer, for instance. And in fact, ironically, much of the book is basically about those kind of assumptions.

    #65087
    Beware the Lamiae
    Beware the Lamiae
    Spectator
    89

    Barbarossa is a pussy beggar……right? Just saying, last time I checked, the guy was still admitting that he gets ass, there is no such thing as “no strings attached sex” or “not becoming emotional involved.” I’m just saying, I like BarBar and the stuff I’ve listened to is the bomb but the guy is a lot of loud talking and no walk. A lot of fast talking and good essays but he is at best on the fence between going your own way and MRA. Don’t get me wrong, I love the guy but he is about as nurturing to MGTOW as Sandman. STARDUSK is the only one worth listening to besides Spetsnaz. Theres an important string of people behind those like Messenger Rising, Turd Flinging Monkey, Mayor of MGTOWN. 

    I saw someone call it the age of mis-information the other day….sounds about right. But to hear Chomsky’s name in a way that isn’t derogatory takes the cake. I guess it was to be expected, bad ideas are like mud getting carried in on dirty shoes. Political nutters, Religious nutters, and all their neurotic moderate’s. A melting pot of s~~~ perpetuated by men desperately wanting to stand behind something but not knowing what it should be, frog hopping from one s~~~ pile to the the next. Wanna-be 21st century philosophers who think they’re well-read. Pseudo quantum theist hacks and lesbian ‘coexister’ leftists, what a retarded species. “Where do I get my philosophy?” The question should be, where don’t I get my philosophy. How best to severe meme leeches.

    #96700
    Perene
    Perene
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    I am going to recommend a few contents (if you guys don’t mind) that changed my outlook about women. I mean, it didn’t change anything since I always thought about them and the world in a fixed way (in other words, I was never interested in doing the same things/having the same life/interests as everyone else) but it did clarify lots of things and it was a wake-up call for me.

    I don’t think you should stick to Youtubers and news reports only, but try to consume all the book about the subject you can get, since whatever the MGTOW members are explaining to you will never be enough. It will not be enough because knowledge needs to be cultivated in your mind, and for total awareness you need to challenge whatever it is said and accepted in the world as right (or wrong) at all times. 24/7. And this can only be done if you have the will to do it, to become suspicious, and looking at everything from all angles.

    Aside from “The Manipulated Man” (from Esther Vilar), which is considered the best source about female nature, I would read these links:

    1)
    Text: http://goo.gl/F3S0oi
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x30w7yx_writings-by-suzanne-hindmarsh-female-nature-series_school (audio)

    2) http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/j3.html (text/transcript)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXCzyxH9zgQ (audio)

    3) http://www.geniusrealms.com/reasoningshow/show10.htm
    http://www.geniusrealms.com/reasoningshow/woman_transcript.htm (text/transcript)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psr0PFh94uU (audio)

    4) http://pastebin.com/cqP36T9a

    For Kindle readers, the Pastebin contains a link to download the texts above (in MOBI, send to the Amazon cloud or the USB-Kindle cable), plus:

    – Woman_-_An_Exposition_for_the_Advanced_Mind_-_David_Quinn_-_1993
    – Woman_-_All_it_is_unwise_to_know_about_her_-_Kevin_Solway

    This is the “philosophy” I stumbled across years ago when researching about female nature. I wanted to understand what women are, and thought with myself that all these discussions about facts and individuals were not enough. I had to figure out what were the expected traits that women have and at the same time can’t EVER get rid of them, and how they instill them in all men and manipulate the environment.

    Everything that was commented in these sources was more important to me than even the book THE MANIPULATED MAN by Esther Vilar. Another content that I would urge you to read with these two is from Arthur Schopenhauer, yet please note he is mistaken when saying they have some sort of enmity because of men: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Of_Women (listen to the audio here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2idjhewTMI)

    These transcripts and comments are complementing a few points raised in “The Manipulated Man”. For me they should be the starting point for anyone that is “going his own way” and refusing to follow all these “Matrix agendas” that are no good.

    And they are not only comments made by a woman, men also made some very insightful remarks. The part where it is said women are embodiments of illusions is my favorite. And also this one:

    (…)Sue: Or just simply valuing. And this goes for both men and women. It’s not only women out there who are valueless. There are also a lot of men out there who have such a strong female component or, more importantly, who are under the influence of women to such a high degree, that they can’t even begin to think about any of this sort of stuff. So the whole point of starting to think means that you have to really separate yourself . . . you have to actually know what woman is and then start to separate yourself from it. That’s a difficult thing – an extremely difficult thing – because woman is absolutely everywhere. She is in everything you do – from your job to your home life, to the very way that you wear your clothes and clean your teeth.

    As for philosophy itself, read the Plato dialogues from the book PLATO – COMPLETE WORKS. A lot of subjects are discussed in them, and it was from this book that I truly improved my life and knew what should be value and what ideas should be discouraged. Nevermind the few mistakes, such as claiming that women are weaker than men in THE REPUBLIC (even the wisest guys didn’t know women fully).

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