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And I want my GRandson back. Sure, it was not even mine. But god damnit that kid did not need to be put in an oven in 3 months. F~~~ YOU GOD> F~~~ YOU.
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I don’t know that this is a MGTOW thing so much as it’s a wisdom coming with age thing. Setting aside gender related issues for a moment, is there really going to be much difference between blue pill and red pill men in terms of giving a s~~~? If you define giving a s~~~ to me that he just wants to be left alone, get off my lawn, no interest in fixing society and other people’s problems anymore, is there?
It’s common knowledge that a person will often enter adulthood with a liberal mindset, believing in utopian societies and that their contributions can make a difference. As they get older, the get jobs and realize what taxing really means, and how the lazy take advantage of those that work. The grow more conservative. This happens whether a man is blue pill or red pill.
That’s not to say that their aren’t 40 something men who still have delusions of grandeur, blinding by a wife and unwilling to take around and see things for what they are. And as well, it’s very hard for a man to go MGTOW and still think he can make a difference in the world. I just don’t think there’s a distinct one to one exclusive correlation.
Ok. Then do it.
This kind of relates to the study of how men and women have 3 vs 6 for men’s morality “levels” .
There is also one problem with the whole god made EVE thing. Was god supposed to make a Human incubator? Cuz as far as I know, there are only a few specimens of nature that need no other sex to reproduce. I think C~~~roaches are born pregnant, but.. They still have males.
The other thing is that at that time, there was a natural balance. There was no government at play. Just God being the government. This also makes me wonder if there was a lawyer, would he argue that the Verbal contract was unenforceable? 🙂
Furthermore, if god made woman, he knew what the f~~~ was going to be wrong with her, so WHY would a PERFECT BEING do this to what is arguably his children?
Yea, Yea the Devil made the bitch eat some fruit. Why the F~~~ would you put the fruit there? If you don’t leave Acid in Milk bottles in your fridge, why the hell would you do this? I can only point to that GOD SET UP ADAM to go through this.
These NEW human beings were like children. A father protects his children. So when the devil went in, GOD KNEW ABOUT AND WAS F~~~ING WATCHING. So.. What does that tell you about GOD?
There is also the problem of Poop. Yes POOP. What was Adam going to do? His poop would have been everywhere. Sure its a big world, but did Adam poop outside of the garden? Did he know about Fertilizer? Did God make Magic Poop? Did he even have to wash? Was his Butt different to what it is now?
And speaking of women, PERIODS. , so eve did not get Prego til a bit after, but during the meantime, she was just suppose to just bleed all over the place for a week?
See, the s~~~ just does not ADD up. Even though there are some women who have never HAD a period since the second they could get pregnant , they got prego. And never had to deal with it. But then you have to ask yourself, is the natural state of women TO BE PREGNANT? And stopping that is actually going against nature? But I Digress.
THing is, GOD for all his wisdom really makes it very hard for logic to be used. DarkMatter goes into this a bunch. And there are so many other things that just make me wonder. So for example,
IF GOD KNOWS ALL? Then WHY did he WAIT to make WOMEN? GOD KNEW ADAM was going to get Lonely. More “Proof” of this exists that he has an entire HEAVEN of people HE CREATED. So why on earth would you just go POOF, NEW BEING! and forget about that or delay that? Sure you can make arguments either way, but it just does not add up.
Also, you got this REAL PROBLEM of NUTRITION. What kind of fruits did Adam and Eve eat in order to maintain their Dietary requirements of the human body. Also, the Climate would also play a role in this as it does rain, and there are other problems that happen in any ecological system that require its occupants to seek shelter.
Again, ALL of it just does not make a LICK of Logical sense. But I guess that’s why they say God defies logic. Okay. What the reason for and HOW is eating a FRUIT from a TREE going to give you knowledge? So what you are saying is that Knowledge is a SIN? So.. God expected ADAM to NEVER LEARN ANYTHING. Never Be anything but a child all his life? And Punished him for being curious?
Oh and btw, GOD MADE EVE. So, GOD F~~~ED OVER ADAM! I mean why would Adam NOT trust EVE. GOD MADE IT. IT HAS TO BE GOOD!
Any story can be picked apart, but how the HELL are you going to try to Rationalize a loving GOD when GOD not only f~~~ed you over like a scummy car salesman, HE LITERALLY HAD TO BE A WOMAN! Cuz only a woman would do something like this.
Even John Doe can explain this s~~~ in real terms.
C~~~ + C~~~ = C~~~S! X Her Pie = Infifnte F~~~UERY! to the Square root of Infinity! AND BEYOND!
And somehow, NO ONE GOT THIS? I know.. I know. It’s just a METAPHOR RIGHT? Well then maybe the whole dang bible is a metaphor. And so are the 10 Commandments.
There is also this Uncomfortable truth that does not explain why god just let Innocent young men get killed? Like the 2 brothers that got into a fight and Murdered the other one? Why did god not make MORE WOMEN? And if god gave MEN sex drive, then.. Why not just not give him one. PROBLEM SOLVED!
I mean for an ALL POWERFUL GOD. This s~~~ would be CHILD’S PLAY. But for some reason, LETS JUST LET EVERYONE F~~~ THEMSELVES?
All over the Bible, Even BEFORE THE FLOOD. Are you telling me that GOD KILLS CHILDREN? How many little girls got raped? Think about that? And what kind of god would make women they way they are? Think About that Like John Doe does. IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE!
Now here is the DUMB THING. If that tree had so much knowledge, then why did adam not go. WAIT F~~~ER< YOU DID THIS? So GOD basically put the BLAME ON EVE and ADAM for something he created and that was Lucifer.
So GOD wants ME to WORSHIP HIM for F~~~ING MY LIFE OVER. And YES he is responsible, since his teachings told me to LOVE WOMEN AND MY FELLOW MAN AND BROTHERS.
But all of it is BULLS~~~! So GOD wrote a Bible, that ONLY SOME PEOPLE GOT. But the Hindus wrote their own thing WAY BEFORE THAT. And The Japanese and the Chinese, and the Africans just forgot about god and his bible, and he only spoke to the mormons later on?
HELP ME HERE…
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If there was EVER a DEVIL, then you have to ask yourself, what the f~~~ is he Jelly about? That F~~~ER GOTS EVERYTHING. So why his he so p~~~ed?
And one last thing, THe IDEA that GOD made WOMEN. That would mean that GOD HATED MAN AND HIS CHILDREN. This is not the Devil speaking here. Or Maybe I am according to John Doe’s Logic since I am only doing this since I was made to be evil and good at the same time. Or maybe, it’s just a FABLE. I’m with Hitchens on this one. What a CRUEL SOB.
And Lastly. HOW MANY MAMMALS DIE WHILE GIVING BIRTH? For Humans, its NOT RARE. Tons of complications happen. That would mean that GOD made something not perfect. There is JUST so much that is F~~~ED its Intolerable.
Any man with a heart Hates to see women in pain. Hence why we are all Naturally Gynocentric. Why is the REVERSE NOT TRUE FOR WOMEN?Mater a fact, if god really did make women, why on earth would he make women UGLY? Ask yourself that. Why are some women DROP DEAD GREAT TO LOOK AT. And other women are just UGLY as s~~~?
Also, either animals do not look different, but PEOPLE DO? How ? Why? And that leads us to other problems. If we were really all from the same batch, then what you are telling me is that SHELLZ is the way he is because in 20,000 years, he got this much Eveloition in the natural environment? But Chinese people pretty much look the same and we know they have been around for MUCH LONGER then BIBLICAL TIME FRAMES?
Somebody got duped. Somebody out there made women into what they never were. And Someone told men that there is a such thing as a virtuous woman? WHEN EVERY SINGLE ACCOUNT OF WOMEN IN HISTORY SHOWS THAT THEY ARE NOT!
Furthermore, there is this PROBLEM that no one wants to talk about. If indeed GOD is the person who had saints write the bible, and the Devil , Angles and all this s~~~ was around, who is to say that the Devil did not tell the saints to write some parts of it that were wrong?
And then you got the IDEA that GOD MADE WOMAN?
Let me make this clear. IF GOD F~~~ING WROTE SOMETHING DOWN? WHy would GOD NOT WRITE THAT DOWN WHEN ADAM WAS AROUND? Are you telling me GOD MAKES MISTAKES?
Or is it ALL GODS PLAN. What f~~~ing PLAN?
GOd is not stopping me from Killing most people on the west coast. GOD is not stopping me from doing anything. And if GOD IS REAL?WHY would any FATHER ALLOW ANGELS TO BE RAPED BY MERE MEN?
And the dumbest story out there is that of LOT. SO HE LET OTHER MEN RAPE HIS DAUGHTERS INSTEAD OF ANGELS?
So if PEOPLE EVOLVED TO BE S~~~, then that just means that GOD KNEW ABOUT THIS! He knew ALL ABOUT THIS. ANd just let it play out like a soap Opera to be watched and enjoyed.Free will/meaning full real choice requires the actual ability to screw things up.
Despite knowing His creation, created perfect, was going to make wrong choices and become imperfect, He still saw value in doing so. Because there would be people that would genuinely choose to be with Him.
Its kind of like blaming the gun manufacturer for the actions of crazed gun murderer on a rampage. Unless you are gonna argue that giving people free will is the same as giving a gun to a crazed murderer, then you may as well join the socialist democrats because they want to take away your free will and micromanage every aspect of your life. You wouldn’t be you without true free will, so it’s kinda stupid to argue against that.
And He didn’t abandon people after the screwup. He provided a way for those that want to take it, and told people to tell others about it so that everyone can know aboutnit and make their own decision. And its the same for everyone, no one has to do anything more than anyone else.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
I’m reminded of Stardusk’s words (borrowed from Man Woman Myth I think)…. men are human doings not human beings. It’s time we start giving a s~~~ about ourselves. Im still reading the thread but want to give yall some love here. Good topic
Appreciate everyone’s replies, I’ve enjoyed reading them.
And I want my GRandson back. Sure, it was not even mine. But god damnit that kid did not need to be put in an oven in 3 months. F~~~ YOU GOD> F~~~ YOU.
Man, I’m sorry to hear this. There are no easy answers to any of this stuff, but I’m sorry for your loss.
There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.
I’m reminded of Stardusk’s words (borrowed from Man Woman Myth I think)…. men are human doings not human beings. It’s time we start giving a s~~~ about ourselves. Im still reading the thread but want to give yall some love here. Good topic
Carnage doesnt view it the same way….and the PMS where you were cursing me out didn’t give that impression.
I mean half the s~~~ this site supports is not mgtow, but just covert nihilism.
Whoever owns the site has to be f~~~ing it up on purpose with multiple accounts as some anti mgtow thing…it wasnt this pathetic when I was here in the beginning.
Pathetic…now gravel pit wants a cuddle session…what a joke.
You know what I found out John? People who really actually are worth being around give you the weirdest feeling not to have them around. It’s like having Ned Flanders as your neighbor. Same thing. We all take time to warm up to people. Many of us have been so betrayed, we have to keep our guard up. one of the reasons for the smaller amount of participants is that everyone seemed to go their own way like they did back then.
After time, MGTOW will end up being just like Myspace. A few dedicated users and a server that sits in the back room at some Office that was FORGOTTEN ABOUT. MGTOW.com and the people here have done exactly what a place like a school or college does. It helps you move on.
Why am I thinking of sappy music here. Yea. I need a drink. Wonder if I should try pussy tonight. I’m been craving it. Naaaa!
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
You know what I found out John? People who really actually are worth being around give you the weirdest feeling not to have them around. It’s like having Ned Flanders as your neighbor. Same thing. We all take time to warm up to people. Many of us have been so betrayed, we have to keep our guard up. one of the reasons for the smaller amount of participants is that everyone seemed to go their own way like they did back then.
After time, MGTOW will end up being just like Myspace. A few dedicated users and a server that sits in the back room at some Office that was FORGOTTEN ABOUT. MGTOW.com and the people here have done exactly what a place like a school or college does. It helps you move on.
Why am I thinking of sappy music here. Yea. I need a drink. Wonder if I should try pussy tonight. I’m been craving it. Naaaa!Well…considering you took that long to write absolutely nothing of value except the site is f~~~ed…here is something you can bend over for:
You talk as if you own the site (mgtow will fade like myspace)…I hate to burst your bubble but it really is not about relationships but men moving on from society.
1. Considering one guy left because of how s~~~ty the place became
2 I was trolled within the first 3 posts,
3. nothing was done about the trolling (reflecting the trolls are not just in fact favored but most likely multiple accounts within the system)
4. A general feeling of nihilism promoted by members (who speak the same way, implying they are multiple accounts…carnage and gravel pit may be the same)
5. The whole gargamel thing gravel pit went off on, observing this forum had to have a massive rift within the past few months.
6. The fact that the new owner, and not only does not care about some of the above behavior and condone some of it (hell you probably have multiple accounts too) but the fact that he is taking an attitude of apathy, when as a new owner, means he probably wants it to not just crash but damage the movement.
7. It seems to be implied that the forum lost members, but the counter is only go up. Add the fact it is implied it is on lockdown, and the counter still goes up.
Honestly I think I am being trolled by several people who have multiple accounts.
All within a week…
The site is in decay, and the administrators want it that way.
here is something you can bend over for:
dude, just quit with the disrespect for the men here. Jesus H. Christ! You have been gone for years… you show up out of no where with a ton of arrogance, lashing out at men, and posting psycho-babble threads. Your philosophy threads are so f~~~ing incoherent (I’m being nice here and trying not to simply say they’re retarded but they are. The only value they have is some sort of weird abstract writing exercise that has no meaning, just word salad, the scribbling of a lunatic. That is why I troll them with Satellite Code, to save people from confusing them with something worth reading…)
The site is in decay, and the administrators want it that way.
Again, you have no idea as to what has transpired in the time you have been absent. ESPECIALLY THE LAST 6 MONTHS! You’re like some guy who was in a 10 year coma that woke up in 1946 and has no idea what just got done happening… You walked into the aftermath of a blood bath civil war and started tossing around your weight… like a fat black chick walking in with a big attitude.
The MEN you’re talking to here are friendly people. You’re free to START OVER at any time and start posting RESPECTFUL, NON-SARCASTIC comments. Notice how no one is befriending you? You need to earn our respect and start building a relationship with dudes around here. They are great people. But if you SASS them (like you have been doing) expect a tons of mud to be flung at you.
You also need to accept that your philosophical musings have NEVER gone over well here. Not in 2015 and not now. They make no sense. Spare us that s~~~. Why can’t you post as just a regular man? You’re trying to re-invent String theory in a fun forum for men. We don’t give a s~~~ about your hairball ideas about weird s~~~ having to do with your cloud nine theology. Very few of the members here are religious. And the ones that are, aren’t posting the crap you post.
It would be helpful if you post something that people can relate to
And everytime we break in down for you, and try to say…. “hey man, you need to start over… consider this… please spare us that crap… and let’s be friends…” what we get back is a some sarcastic reply and more incoherent theological theory…
You did that s~~~ to me for pages and pages in 2015… and now you’re doing it again. That is a character defect you have no addressed John.
When I came back to MGTOW.com after years being absent. I came back in Oct 2017. When I came here, there was no returning Hero parade… the men here were like, “who the f~~~ are you? dont expect us to give a s~~~…” I had to ingratiate myself and make friends and it took months… And I had to READ, ALOT… to get an idea of what was happening and who was who….
You cant just barge in here and expect anyone to give a s~~~ about you. This place is having problems. Problems you know nothing about. You’re indescribably lucky that you even have an account here. THOUSANDS of men wish they could get in here. Youre VERY lucky to even be able to post. DO NOT TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED
have a nice day
Personally I am not interested in propping up and fortifying today’s gynocentric, welfare-state-as-husbank paid for by mens taxes, society. I want it all to turn to ash and go back to a strong patriarchy again, because that’s the best arrangement for everyone. For men to be the best men, for women to be the best women, and for kids to have the best stable environments to grow up in and be far less likely to be problems for society to deal with until they die.
I understand your point, but I disagree. What I want now is for women to step up and assume half the responsibility that they have pushed for so hard. You want it Judy, you got it. Now go die on the job in the same percentages that men do, go run the garbage truck, become a plumber, build houses at the same percentage men do. We’ll take over your HR job or social worker job.
That’s equality and it’s high time that women took on half the work along with half the responsibilities of running a society.
Order the good wine
here is something you can bend over for:
dude, just quit with the disrespect for the men here. Jesus H. Christ! You have been gone for years… you show up out of no where with a ton of arrogance, lashing out at men, and posting psycho-babble threads. Your philosophy threads are so f~~~ing incoherent (I’m being nice here and trying not to simply say they’re retarded but they are. The only value they have is some sort of weird abstract writing exercise that has no meaning, just word salad, the scribbling of a lunatic. That is why I troll them with Satellite Code, to save people from confusing them with something worth reading…)
The site is in decay, and the administrators want it that way.
Again, you have no idea as to what has transpired in the time you have been absent. ESPECIALLY THE LAST 6 MONTHS! You’re like some guy who was in a 10 year coma that woke up in 1946 and has no idea what just got done happening… You walked into the aftermath of a blood bath civil war and started tossing around your weight… like a fat black chick walking in with a big attitude.
The MEN you’re talking to here are friendly people. You’re free to START OVER at any time and start posting RESPECTFUL, NON-SARCASTIC comments. Notice how no one is befriending you? You need to earn our respect and start building a relationship with dudes around here. They are great people. But if you SASS them (like you have been doing) expect a tons of mud to be flung at you.
You also need to accept that your philosophical musings have NEVER gone over well here. Not in 2015 and not now. They make no sense. Spare us that s~~~. Why can’t you post as just a regular man? You’re trying to re-invent String theory in a fun forum for men. We don’t give a s~~~ about your hairball ideas about weird s~~~ having to do with your cloud nine theology. Very few of the members here are religious. And the ones that are, aren’t posting the crap you post.
It would be helpful if you post something that people can relate toSave it troll. Noone is pushing religion or theology.
The memes you keep pushing are incoherent gibberish pushed on book stores for the public.
The philosophy you push is incoherent, and coming from nihilism and bulls~~~ genetic research you do not understand.
Save it.
And everytime we break in down for you, and try to say…. “hey man, you need to start over… consider this… please spare us that crap… and let’s be friends…” what we get back is a some sarcastic reply and more incoherent theological theory…
You did that s~~~ to me for pages and pages in 2015… and now you’re doing it again. That is a character defect you have no addressed John.
When I came back to MGTOW.com after years being absent. I came back in Oct 2017. When I came here, there was no returning Hero parade… the men here were like, “who the f~~~ are you? dont expect us to give a s~~~…” I had to ingratiate myself and make friends and it took months… And I had to READ, ALOT… to get an idea of what was happening and who was who….
You cant just barge in here and expect anyone to give a s~~~ about you. This place is having problems. Problems you know nothing about. You’re indescribably lucky that you even have an account here. THOUSANDS of men wish they could get in here. Youre VERY lucky to even be able to post. DO NOT TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED
have a nice dayNo, you come in insulting and spamming. You dont break anything down except by saying “f~~~ you, bitch”.
And you are always reference others opinions…like group opinion matters and you are trying to fit in.
Needy…you were a bitch years ago and it just got worse then.
And shut up with the religion…I am not pushing any.
Even in the PM’s. You do the “yo bro” let’s be friends thing and then when anyone questions you you fly off the handle.
It is like being friends with a fickle woman…not worth the time.
The counter is a fraud, it keeps going up even when noone gets it.
The place is run by trolls.
I hear you Tax Guy and you make sense. But women won’t do it, and they can’t because they weren’t built by nature or god to do the things that men do.
They can’t drive a garbage truck or life the garbage cans.
They can’t write code or imagine new inventions.
They lack the muscles to be effective soldiers.
They lack the hand-eye-coordination to be effective marksmen (this means women suck at piloting war drones too).
Women are not strong leaders.
Women are inadequate for the job. They can’t be plumbers or house builders. You know that is bulls~~~.
They suck at being social workers and HR people too.
We bred the intelligence out of them. The only thing they are good at is doing make-up, breast-feeding and conning men. A few of them can handle more complicated tasks like accounting and presenting Profit Loss sheets…
And by the way, EVEN IF WOMEN DO MIRACULOUSLY STEP UP TO THE EQUALITY PLATE and carry half the burden… where is the next generation going to come from? They quit their primary role in this species which is to mother children. We’re already in a stall, as in the birthrate jet-fighter has stalled in flight.
We’re tail spinning and losing altitude. The only thing that can save it is Surrogacy. A return to patriarchy is not possible, we can’t repeal the 19th, we can’t undo No-Fault divorce and we can’t suddenly ban contraception and abortion… Women will NOT go back to performing their function.
Sure they have an instinct to mother, to become mothers… they just wait until their 40 and the kid pops out retarded and needing welfare. A whole generation of Autistic kids, and low IQ minority s~~~kids who cant speak english and bites the hand that feeds them…lol
Anyway, Im not fighting you, just remarking…
Anyway, Im not fighting you, just remarking…
Yeah, screw you!! Kidding, I know you aren’t fighting with me. And I know I’m asking for too much, just making the point that women actually had the better deal but couldn’t see it. It goes back to Eve taking the apple. The basic premise of the story is that no matter what a woman has, it isn’t good enough. They still want what isn’t good for them. Because….vagina.
Whether the bible was written as the word of God, or if it’s just a book full of lessons about how to be a “good person”, the message from 2,000 years ago is still the same. Women bitch and moan and are never satisfied. I’m assuming it’s the first story because it’s the most important one.
Order the good wine
Good post
Dumbf~~~ery is an age-old phenomenon.
What if the Gatwick drone was flown by a blue-piller trying to impress his girlfriend and have some laughs?Well look at that, it was a man and a woman arrested.
I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.
you were a bitch years ago
And my point about your sarcastic replies and lack of humility totally confirmed. YOU are the one who got off on the wrong foot and is incapable of criticism, without lashing out us. And when you do, you receive s~~~ for it…. that is why you are immediately hated by all here.
I see Wizard and others giving you the benefit of their time, trying to understand your threads, AND YOU S~~~ ALL OVER THEM, just like in 2015 lol. You have SERIOUS character flaws and an abrasive personality. How old was your mother when she had you? You have never come clean to us about who you are, just a smug boy behind a keyboard with a personality complex. Lashing out at us, as if we were the bullies in your sixth grade Gym class.
And shut up with the religion…I am not pushing any.
YES YOU ARE! lol… everything you have ever posted, EVERY SINGLE THREAD in Philosophy was a hat tip and round-about lure for you to build your “metaphysical” arguments on. That is how you operate (as all Xtians do)… they lay the trap.. a seemingly innocuous thread about such and such… and half way down the page you insert the hook… some trap door statement about freewill or another dimension lol. And if pressed about it, out comes the theology sure as s~~~.
I dont call it freewill anymore. I thought of a more fitting modern name for it, FREENIL (as in Free Nil, there is none of it, no freewill). The absence of freewill really is proof against all monotheism, period. Ive argued it before and explained everything but people like you lack the IQ to understand. Your god doesnt exist, I’ve demonstrated this logically and beyond doubt.
The absence of freewill is proof against God. Its that simple. If you cant understand it, Im sorry but its true.
Freewill is really, freenil
Personally I am not interested in propping up and fortifying today’s gynocentric, welfare-state-as-husbank paid for by mens taxes, society. I want it all to turn to ash and go back to a strong patriarchy again, because that’s the best arrangement for everyone. For men to be the best men, for women to be the best women, and for kids to have the best stable environments to grow up in and be far less likely to be problems for society to deal with until they die.
I understand your point, but I disagree. What I want now is for women to step up and assume half the responsibility that they have pushed for so hard. You want it Judy, you got it. Now go die on the job in the same percentages that men do, go run the garbage truck, become a plumber, build houses at the same percentage men do. We’ll take over your HR job or social worker job.
That’s equality and it’s high time that women took on half the work along with half the responsibilities of running a society.Imdont want that because it will turn out asverything else has. The women will demand lower standards in all the other difficult areas for themselves, and services wil suffer and people,will die, men will stil pick up the slack and at the same time continue to be villified.
Nope, dont want them in more places bcause itll be the seals and rangers and firefighters and police all over. No more bulls~~~.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
The absence of freewill is proof against God. Its that simple. If you cant understand it, Im sorry but its true.
Freewill is really, freenilDo you believe in other dimensions, or this plane is it?
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