What's YOUR Description/Definition of MGTOW ?

[BoBParticipant 823]

Also, an adaptation of one of Sun Tsu’s quotes:

“The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy’s not coming, but on our own readiness to receive HER; not on the chance of HER not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable.”

This may be going ghost, or making sure that you are protected by cameras, etc.

[trader1913Participant 1577]

I stopped using MGTOW as a label for myself; its too problematic like labeling yourself a democrat or republican. Removing it from my lexicon has made ghosting a lot easier; because you don’t get people filling in the blanks and assuming things of you.

I’m a man living his life the way he wants to, that’s all.

[Anonymous 42]

LastManStanding wrote:

I am a married man and consider myself MGTOW.

I used to rag on guys like you saying you can’t possibly be going your own way with the slew of restrictive laws that cradle the contract of marriage, so I am of the opinion that married MGTOW are attached to the ball and chain of gynocentric marriage contract.

To me it looks like a constant burden and struggle to live your own life independent of Mrs. Ball’n’Chain. Constant tugging, constant positioning, constant pain in the ass impeding your way.

Am I wrong?

[BoBParticipant 823]

Anonymous wrote:

Am I wrong?

Probably not. Life ain’t easy.

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

ghost wrote:

These forums have lost touch with what MGTOW is all about. There is too much discussion about what’s in the news, politics, religion, social issues, feminism, etc. Who cares about any of that?

Why can’t we focus on philosophy and things that actually matter to us? 90% of the junk I read here is useless.

There is a lot of junk, but there might be a worthwhile effect. Many men need red pills daily once they’ve been awakened. If they get a steady diet of news stories about bad female behavior, it might help them avoid getting entangled with a woman in the future.

But it would be nice to get more positive, philosophical topics. I’ve been contemplating Schopenhauer lately… he deserves more discussion.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

I gave a star to all MGTOW definitions on this thread. It seems to me there is an inate quality in MGTOW men to be FREE to choose his own path in life – this might range from not having a bitch wife ruining his life to any life choice.

Imho todays society unreasonably hinders this freedom through gynocentrism and other mechanisms. There is a commonality of truth recognised by MGTOW men due to our intelligence and our experiences with women and in society.

For me that means the more I seek and recognise TRUTH and knowledge the more I can make informed choices in my life. Men exchanging information and truth is therefore beneficial to those men.

Imho society is too messed up to ‘fix’ (if a man chooses to try to do so thats his choice). Imho MGTOW is in itself a service to society as it is based on truthful experiences and more men will recognise and learn from that – but there is no point in trying to fix society /or fight a losing ‘battle’. Unsustainable aspects of society eventually fail by themselves.

MGTOW.com enables exchange of MGTOW information, observations and experiences and I am very grateful for it.

Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

[Struck OutParticipant 468]

"Always learn from the mistakes of others. You can never live long enough to make them all yourself."--Groucho Marx.

[Lone Wolf83Participant 825]

MGTOW to me means not being a wife’s bitch.

If it has tits or tires, you know you're going to have problems.

[Remove me!Participant]

Cutting my losses then moving on.

Then becoming the captain of MY OWN ship.

Like a bird on the wire, like a drunk midnight choir, I have tried in my way to be free.

[Anonymous 54]

Doc wrote:

MGTOW is whatever the man himself defines it as.

I see it paradoxically.

While we are each making the conscious decision to go our own way. Each being unique.

The very decision to do so is what binds is so makes as a collective.

Hence a paradox.

To me, its like a bunch of loners getting to gether to discuse a common issue.
Im still a loner going his own way.
I am careful to not get caught up in group think.
Thats why I keep back a certain distance.

I know its different for others.

[LastManStandingParticipant 638]

Anonymous wrote:

LastManStanding wrote:

I am a married man and consider myself MGTOW.

I used to rag on guys like you saying you can’t possibly be going your own way with the slew of restrictive laws that cradle the contract of marriage, so I am of the opinion that married MGTOW are attached to the ball and chain of gynocentric marriage contract.

To me it looks like a constant burden and struggle to live your own life independent of Mrs. Ball’n’Chain. Constant tugging, constant positioning, constant pain in the ass impeding your way.

Am I wrong?

I guess you are free to rag on me, but I honestly don’t feel a big burden. I can explain my situation, but you will just chide me as blue bill. The truth is I woke up to MGTOW, not because of anything that happened to me directly. But rather, male friends and family that lost the rights to their kids. I would never advocate and young man getting married, or even entering a relationship. My mistakes are my own and they don’t effect anyone else.

I was always a loner in many ways. I never bought into the system. When I found my wife, she made me really happy. My wife was not born in the US and she has not really adopted any entitled s~~~ty behavior (yet). I don’t want to start saying NAWALT, or anything like that. Because I know it doesn’t exist. That said, my wife is very low maintenance and low drama. She contributes money and does chores. I have no kids, so pursuing my own interests has been quite easy. Yes, she could leave me at anytime. So what? I can lose half my assets? Yeah, that would be dreadful, but the fear of loss is not really a way for me to live since I already signed the dotted line. I have bigger fears of economic collapse, system collapse, problems at my job that far outweigh anything I think my wife can do to me at this point.

Maybe, I am not MGTOW in your eyes. That’s fine, I will always be a MGTOW sympathizer. I think my insights of being a self-made man can help some of the younger guys wanting to learn the ropes. I don’t really give a s~~~ about some meaningless title. I want to fight the good fight, and do good for the truth. I feel like Paul of Tarsus sometimes.

[DocParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

DocDJ wrote:

there is definitely a paradox in there tho.

Whos statement are you refering to Doc

My own observations of being MGTOW. We go alone but together.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 54]

Doc wrote:

We go alone but together.

It is strange isnt it.
Like a loners club. Jaja
I had a neibour once, a loner like me.
I said, great lets not get togethrr and hang out.
Our Freindship was based on repecting boundries and solotude.
We were tight.
But we wernt.hahh.
I miss him.

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Personally, I am still married, and am planning on divorcing once the youngest is a senior in high school.

I’m preparing for my escape, and eventual divorce raping.

For me, my marriage is a complete burden, and a complete ball and chain. There truly is NOTHING Good about IT or HER.

I was Awakened While Married, and if I must wear a label then this is the one that I would choose to affix to myself.

Being married, I can’t go MY WAY YET, but that doesn’t stop me from adhering to the TRUTH, and Planning for MY TOMORROW.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 54]

I think the awakened while married guys have it the worst.
What a lousey place to be.
Aware, stuck with a wife you dont want, a life you dont want, and freedom you havent earned yet.
Man…..

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

dose not matter what the others say, ’cause you can go your own way

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[narwhalParticipant]

I think of it as a collection of truths, and how to logically respond to these truths, that all center around marriage, divorce, relationships, and gender issues in general. How you actually respond depends on your current obligations and situation, moral principles, and level or risk acceptance.

I don’t think of a person being qualified to be MGTOW or not, because no one can set the requirements. And I also cannot say with much confidence that I would opt for divorce if I was in their same situation.

As far as topics go, many of them seem to center around “Hey guys, let’s laugh as this woman!”, or “Hey guys, look how cool I am!”. That isn’t always bad, but it’s not always good. Topics on the local news, personal testimonies, and discussions on specific thoughts are usually of more interest to me.

Ok. Then do it.

[DocParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

DocDJ wrote:

We go alone but together.

It is strange isnt it.
Like a loners club. Jaja
I had a neibour once, a loner like me.
I said, great lets not get togethrr and hang out.
Our Freindship was based on repecting boundries and solotude.
We were tight.
But we wernt.hahh.
I miss him.

Exactly my friend.
In that lies the paradox.

“Loner’s Club’ It’s a paradox. Or even an oxymoron.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 54]

Who you callin a moron? Hahahah

[BachelorForLifeParticipant 483]

I’ve always had the MGTOW mindset somewhat even before I heard of it. MGTOW is being able to do whatever the f~~~ you want whenever you want. That also means not being tied down to a bitch, as in being married. Because if you’re married, you can’t do whatever the f~~~ you want. Your b~~~~ are in her purse at that point.

Hell, my MGTOW status would even be questioned by a lot of MGTOW themselves, because I’ve never been screwed over by a bitch. But the way I see it, I learned from other’s mistakes and that’s the most MGTOW you can get in terms of education.

I’m a proud weeb, gamer, amateur mathematician, philosopher, theologian, astronomer, and scientist. I don’t give a flying f~~~ about external validation, nor do I give a f~~~ about society, women, or kids. I only live for my own self interests, hobbies, and career.

To me, that’s what’s being a MGTOW is all about. Doing whatever the f~~~ you want to do.

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