whats the deal with women and sex

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  • #188337
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    Keymaster
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    Look, I get that women use the lure of sex to get what they want in life. How the hell else are 95% of them going to survive?.

    THat’s the mistake women make. They place all the emphasis on “their sex (appeal)” and think that’s their biggest bargaining chip. They are brainwashed by OTHER WOMEN and f~~~ing Cosmo.

    They don’t even OFFER IT! If a woman relies on her sex appeal for “power” and to get what she wants, why doesn’t she openly offer it on a platter instead of expecting for men to go running after it?

    The girl I will call again is not the one that sucks dick to perfection. She would invite me in and offer something ESLE instead of expecting me to take her out. She can use her f~~~ing imagination. A copy of coffee and 2 cookies. A comfortable chair. A pleasant tone of voice. A warm SMILE. But I have “taken women out” for a $200 evening and she’s so goddam lazy, she won’t even throw a bunch of $3 dried noodles into a pot of boiling water. She just wants me to take her out again.

    The blow job may have been fantastic, but if placed emphasis on anything ELSE, she would have men calling her back left and right.

    Eventually a man thinks, “f~~~ this s~~~. I worked 4 days and wasted my savings on a MEAL.. and she won’t even invite me over for a chat and some chinese takeout? SHe’s USLESS. and I don’t give a s~~~ how good the blowjob was.”

    Women could find another way to “survive”. They can get busy and WORK. This hit me square between the eyes when a girlfriend of 3 years said “I’m bored”.

    “Well, the bathroom floor is dirty. Clean that. Then you won’t be bored anymore.”

    That’s all vagina is now. A “lure”.
    Except women have no TRUE concept of the word “allure” anymore.

    If they did, they wouldn’t need to rely on vagina as the more valuable thing she has. I think it’s disgusting when women behave like that’s the most valuable thing. They withhold it like it’s a goddam Faberge egg. I’m thinking honey, that’s SO BACKWARDS. It’s not made out of porcelain. It won’t break if you use it.

    A man’s decision to call you again isn’t based on whether you f~~~ him tonight or not anyway!

    You would think every woman would learn this before a 16th birthday or her first date. But no. Disney teaches little girls the same s~~~ women teach each other “Men only want one thing“. Brainwashed by the time they are 6.

    “Don’t give it to him until you get what you want!”

    That’s a whore who spends her whole life thing her f~~~hole is the most valuable thing she has.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #188374
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    Narwhal
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    From my experience, manipulation has never been the reason why a woman choses not (or hesitates) to have sex with me. It has either been that she wasn’t interested in me, she was thinking I didn’t like her personality much and only wanted sex (usually correct), or it was social pressure.

    Women are very much of afraid of being considered a slut. She’ll tell you “I’m not that type of girl”, and then will be that time after whatever number of dates are required to get out of the ‘slut range’, and then she can’t get enough. It’s almost funny, as a woman will go directly from “I can’t cuz I’ll be a slut” to “why isn’t he trying to have sex with me?”

    A couple years ago, I dated a rather religious girl. The poor girl was soon torn between being a good girl who didn’t put out and wanting to be thought of as sexy and adventurous. She actually told me she felt like I didn’t want her and was hurt that I wasn’t trying to have sex with her. A few weeks later, we were on a vacation with a bunch of her friends, and she definitely wanted everyone to know we were having sex.

    I don’t know, maybe something about my approach or the women I chose just doesn’t allow for manipulation. Although I love sex, perhaps I just don’t give women the impression that I’m willing to ‘pay’ for it.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #188507
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    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
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    From my experience, manipulation has never been the reason why a woman choses not (or hesitates) to have sex with me. It has either been that she wasn’t interested in me, she was thinking I didn’t like her personality much and only wanted sex (usually correct), or it was social pressure.

    Women are very much of afraid of being considered a slut. She’ll tell you “I’m not that type of girl”, and then will be that time after whatever number of dates are required to get out of the ‘slut range’, and then she can’t get enough. It’s almost funny, as a woman will go directly from “I can’t cuz I’ll be a slut” to “why isn’t he trying to have sex with me?”

    A couple years ago, I dated a rather religious girl. The poor girl was soon torn between being a good girl who didn’t put out and wanting to be thought of as sexy and adventurous. She actually told me she felt like I didn’t want her and was hurt that I wasn’t trying to have sex with her. A few weeks later, we were on a vacation with a bunch of her friends, and she definitely wanted everyone to know we were having sex.

    I don’t know, maybe something about my approach or the women I chose just doesn’t allow for manipulation. Although I love sex, perhaps I just don’t give women the impression that I’m willing to ‘pay’ for it.

    I think you’re right, but that applies just only for the first times of a relationship, such fair and genuine behavior lasts, according my experience, about from 3 months to 3 years, but it’s very different among individual women. Then comes the manipulation pattern, initially very light and subtle, even “shy”. If you do not react immediatly, it’ll increase, more and more.
    My experience is that there are huge differences between different women about the level of the manipulative abuse they reach, and even about the frequency they use it, but I have never met a woman who never tried to manipulate me using sex as prize.

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    #188564
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    Experienced
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    “We do not covet anything from any nation except their respect.” Churchill

    ~”We do not covet anything from any woman except her (genuine) respect.”

    No respect = no c~~~.
    Deal with that LAYDEEZ.

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #188584
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    Warrior-Monk
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    “Don’t give it to him until you get what you want!”

    Yeah, and “when you get from him what you want, why the f~~~ give to him anything?”

    They really act like sex has no value to them, only to us men it’s valuable. But if so, why bother trying to get it? What’s the difference between a girlfrend, a hooker and even an artificial vagina? I have no clue. Of course it’s just acting and nothing more, but still annoys me. Why do I have to play those games? I don’t want to and I won’t, I can live a much better life without that.

    Non Progredi Est Regredi - Not to Advance Forward means to Fall Back

    #188658
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    DJKevgeez
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    Advices….lol

    #188659
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    DJKevgeez
    DJKevgeez
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    Good read

    #188773
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    Tiredofbs
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    let me also state the obvious. Women use sex to manipulate men. Of course this can backfire cuz some men will sleep with other women.

    Any woman who considers sex as some kind of a reward will soon find out she is out of my life. No woman will ever be that important to me.

    Like it has been said many times on this forum, the only thing a woman has to offer is her smelly hole (often loose) that smells like tuna. That can also come with the added bonus of std or other diseases.

    That can be found for free. Or by paying a few bucks for it, which might even be a better option (no drama).

    Ladies, are you listening? You are really not worth that much.

    You nailed it. Got me to thinking too. Cucumbers are on sale at least once a month at the grocery store. I always see women loading on up on them. Seems like it would be a cheaper alternative for the female population. But dumb old me. Guess I had a brain fart. It hit me in the face, cucumbers don’t have jobs, can’t find a job, no one would hire them, they can’t drive, they can’t build stuff, they don’t have bank accounts and they can’t procreate with a female. So there you go. No cash and prizes and even the feminist family court system wouldn’t hear a divorce case between a woman and her “cucumber”. Oh well.

    #188852
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    AFT
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    And whats the deal even if you get it after that? I want to be f~~~ed because of me, not because i was good boy/slave. And after a while she will demand even more. Stupid advices like that are posted by other women. If she was hot for the guy he would not have to do ANYTHING AT ALL!

    Exactly, better focus on improving yourself, get laid where and when you can, as it is women that get to choose anyway, no point in putting too much resources in pursuing something with little to no benefits.

    I still find this notion that Teslas genius stemmed from his celibacy to be ludicrous. If that were true, every 25 year old virgin would be Tesla.

    In “The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex”, Charles Darwin, explains Sex transmutation, any adaptive features could be explained with his theory of natural selection. The peac~~~ seems to have been his favorite study.

    this myth that avoiding sex will make you a genius,

    I think the argument is avoiding sex, or more accurately ejaculation altogether, helps promote an environment where you are more able to develop, in order to reach genius status other elements are required, not least of which is focused hard work over time.

    When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

    #188897
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    Anonymous
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    As Doc mentioned, chasing after pussy is a waste of time. If you chase it, you’re not getting it. Put yourself in the right place and wait. They will let you know.

    You really to be prepared to deal with the myriad of negatives of having pussy attached to you. Fleshlights and a strict pump and dump policy take care of those problems quite well.

    I’ve never tried the “just released from prison” line. It has to be awesome. I’ll try it the next time I cheat on my Fleshlight.

    I’m not going to spout the bulls~~~ that sex is not fun. Guns are fun too but deadly when mishandled.

    #188973
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    AFT
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    Guns are fun too but deadly when mishandled.

    Nice BUT

    You have to mishandle a gun for it to be dangerous, and it still won’t take your kids, house, car, wealth and future income.

    When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

    #189160
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    The road
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    I’ve been in sexless relationships. They weren’t 100% sexless but when you are only getting laid once a month, to me that is sexless.

    I didn’t really do anything about it during those times. I know that since my needs weren’t being fulfilled, it caused tensions that eventually ended the relationship.

    I didn’t want a woman who didn’t want me in the same way. So whether or not they were trying to force me to get in line so that they could meter out sex would be irrelevant. The bottom line was that if they had the ability to forgo sex then that means that they don’t naturally want is as much as me and we are incompatible.

    Of course now that I have taken a dose of red pill, it doesn’t seem like any women are compatible.

    #MANOUT

    #189166
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    Stargazer
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    You have to mishandle a gun for it to be dangerous, and it still won’t take your kids, house, car, wealth and future income

    No, it will take your life or the life of someone you love. And you don’t have to specifically mishandle it, you can be in possession of a firearm without the proper training or understanding of its power… you can be naive or full of bravado or intoxicated or simply careless for a moment and it will take your life or the life of someone you love.

    I think the simile is apropos.

    #189172
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    Stargazer
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    I think the argument is avoiding sex, or more accurately ejaculation altogether, helps promote an environment where you are more able to develop

    Yeah, I get the argument… that ejaculation expends the valuable life energy of a male whereas the alternative preserves that essence which can then be directed toward higher pursuits.

    I still think it’s bulls~~~. It’s based on the assumption that the biological effort required to produce sperm and seminal fluid and then shoot them through your urethra is detrimental to your intellect in the same way that turning on the air conditioner makes your Honda Civic drive up hills slower. It’s ludicrous.

    The mental and emotional effort of being a pussy begging simp WILL distract you from potential greatness if you have the potential for that greatness within already, but withholding your ejaculations isn’t going to send sperm-producing power into your brain and make you Nikola Tesla. Please stop perpetuating this myth. It may help sad virgins feel better about their high math and spatial reasoning scores but it’s bulls~~~.

    Peac~~~s, by the way, expend biological energy to produce colorful plumage as a way of signaling to peahens that they have wealth (health, fitness, food resources, etc) to spare, suggesting they have better genetics and ostensibly offering to share their excess of resources with the peahen and her offspring… like a douchebag driving a Ferrari. So in earnest, when you suggest that, through the power of sexual transmutation “not cuming will make you a genius”, it sounds to me like you’ve confused your causality with the more apropos notion that “swag can get you laid”.

    #189183
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    Shovelheadrider
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    speak for yourself.You should use first person.You do not know if some one drinks, engaging in bravado etc. You may be some one like that or know people like that .A car or a knife can be a weapon. Stay in your storm cellar and be safe.There is a world full of stupid people and stupidity causes a lot of deaths.Some one will text you when there is a cure for stupid and you can come out and will not have to fear hammers,ice picks ET all

    #189252
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    Stargazer
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    speak for yourself

    I am always speaking for myself. When I use the word “you”, I mean it in the sense of “one” as in “One could be momentarily angered by a simple misunderstanding.” It’s just that style of speaking sounds a bit formal in this context.

    So yes, I could do or be any of those things and accidently shoot myself. Although I have formal training, a concealed carry permit and extensive experience handling and using firearms, I could still make one of those mistakes. So could you. So could anyone. I have seen police officers (who we would assume to know better, though they often don’t) exercise poor muzzle control, have their gun removed from their hand and be forcibly ejected from a firing range. It happens.

    The point was that the comparison of women to firearms is apropos because no matter how good you think you are and how careful you actually are, you can still cause life changing damage to yourself with either one of them as a result of a simple oversight, much less outright carelessness.

    I still shoot and I still f~~~… but I do so knowing the risks and being prepared to accept the responsibilities.

    #189272
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    Shovelheadrider
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    I am glad you feel that way.I am a bit touchy about some one implying something could happen and I would be safer if I could not defend myself.Most police never fire their gun in the line of duty.I will not have another relationship because of the false domestic abuse charges that women filed because they were mad at men. A lot of ex police officers are ex because of false charges by wife. My right to defend myself is too important.When help is minutes away seconds are important.

    #189416
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    AFT
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    you can be in possession of a firearm without the proper training or understanding of its power… you can be naive or full of bravado or intoxicated or simply careless for a moment

    Hey Doc, with all due respect doesn’t that fit into the definition of mishandle.

    My original point was the gun is a tool, which can be used properly, (part of which is getting training etc) I was agreeing with CPig and adding that a woman is dangerous without being mishandled, now I concede the best way to handle a woman is not at all, and merely engaging with a woman is mishandling, I suppose there is no way of handling a woman correctly other than not at all. Limiting any contact to the bare minimum do the deed and get the hell out of dodge.

    Yeah, I get the argument… that ejaculation expends the valuable life energy of a male whereas the alternative preserves that essence which can then be directed toward higher pursuits.

    I still think it’s bulls~~~.

    That’s your opinion and I respect that, I’m open to the possibility of its value. Napoleon Hill dedicated a chapter to it in think and grow rich. I believe it has merit because not only do you preserve that essence, but change your focus and harness that energy. Now whether a man has a focus on attaining a truly worthy goal is another issue.

    Peac~~~s, by the way, expend biological energy to produce colorful plumage as a way of signaling to peahens that they have wealth

    Exactly why Darwin had such a problem with it when explaining the survival of the fittest in evolution, why would peac~~~s expend energy that actually put them in harms way regarding being noticed by predators? I’m starting to study Evolutionary Psychology, and the basis of evolution seems to be heavily related to sex and procreation, maybe that’s obvious to the more learned among us like your good self, but it is a new concept for me.

    When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

    #189446
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    Stargazer
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    I am glad you feel that way. I am a bit touchy about some one implying something could happen and I would be safer if I could not defend myself.

    Hang on, do you think I was trying to make an anti-firearm rant? I was responding to someone’s suggestion that women are more dangerous than firearms because a firearm must be “mishandled” to do harm but a woman can do harm all on her own.

    My point was that a firearm can do just as much or more harm as a woman and that it doesn’t need to be mishandled, which I defined as “used improperly by a person who supposedly knows better” in order to do that damage. So my point was that a firearm is an appropriate analogy for a woman… both can do harm whether you know what you’re doing with them or not, but the more you know and the more careful you are, the more you can mitigate the risk, as well.

    #189452
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    Stargazer
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    merely engaging with a woman is mishandling

    This is a point I won’t argue with you. It is entirely possible that women are “unsafe at any speed”. But who among us is interested in absolute safety anyway? Surely talking to a girl is not the most dangerous activity any of us engage in.

    Regarding the peac~~~ thing (sorry, I can’t do additional quotes while writing from an iPad) I believe the urge to reproduce supersedes even the urge to survive. Surely were it not so, there are many species that would be incapable of reproducing at all as the act is inherently life threatening and, in some cases, literally deadly.

    And as for abstaining from ejaculation, by your own statement it is not enough to merely abstain from ejaculating, rather one must also avoid the mental focus on sexual thoughts and actions that leads to ejaculating. If one were, say, to have involuntary nocturnal emissions, I assume it would not threaten their mental prowess… so really the equation is not “no cum = genius” but rather “lack of focus toward and expenditure on sex = time, energy and attention directed to other pursuits”.

    This is in line with my theory that it is not the act of sex but the OBSESSIVE PURSUIT of sex that distracts men from their other potentials. A man who strongly desires sex and thinks about it constantly but never does it is not going to be able to focus more of his energy on, say, inventing, than a man who gets sex whenever the urge rises but doesn’t think or care about it for more than the time it takes to do it.

    In other words, spending five minutes cranking one out, shooting a load on your keyboard, mopping it up and going back to work is a far more effective strategy for focus on your endeavors than spending an hour trying not to look at porn sites and expecting your stale jizz to fuel your brain cells.

    You catch my drift?

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