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After my last and only long term relationship I discovered a new hobby. When I was still in relationship, that was by all definitions pretty much sexless so i was seeking help on relationship forums since i did not know where to seek advice/help and vent and that was how i found MGTOW. I just couldnt talk about it to my (single) mother about it back then or to my friends. I thin the only person i d talk about stuff like that would be my father if i had one. Anyway, what i wanted to say is even after a break up I continue to go to some forums because I find some topics there entertainig and some of them are red pills for sure.
there are so many topics about men who get zero sex after the 1st child is born or after a few years of dating/being married. They are destroyed, trapped and unhappy. there are so so many threads about it on every single relationship forum and they are all the same. Its like predefined stories, everytime the same stuff.
The man is talking to her about the problem (which in my own experience NEVER EVER helps. its actually the worst thing you can do I think. Its like talking to the wall), being sweet to her, organize date nights, romantic dinners just to ignite the spark again, do more house chores, cooking, massages, candles, flowers… the advices the majority of man gets is cringe worthy. And whats the deal even if you get it after that? I want to be f~~~ed because of me, not because i was good boy/slave. And after a while she will demand even more. Stupid advices like that are posted by other women. If she was hot for the guy he would not have to do ANYTHING AT ALL!
I was in a sexless relationship and I swore to myself -NEVER EVER AGAIN. It literally kills your sex drive and self confidence. It destroys your self worth. How pathetic is that? I was asking the whole time whats wrong with me, why she is not into it, do I suck in bed… It really is a frustrating and devastating feeling.
Once upon a time – few years back I absolutely despised people who cheated. Guess what? Now I can completely relate to men who are not getting it at home and looks for it elsewhere.
have you ever been in sexless relationship? how did you handle it? what did you learn?
Since then i have said it many times in public: ‘for me there is only one golden vagina – the one i came from’.
And that is something every girl will hear from me the moment she will start acting she is the only one with the glory hole and sex is something sacred, something you have to work so hard to get it and jump through so many hoops, being a tool for exploitation and punishment.And yes, in my opinion we – men are pathetic and women are exploiting that as good as they can. just think what an average man do for a piece of pussy, how we act just to get it. But thats nature i think, you cant control it, but you can control how you deal with it.
Sex is overrated. Don’t get me wrong…….sex is good and sometimes worth pursuing. it is simply overrated.
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
let me also state the obvious. Women use sex to manipulate men. Of course this can backfire cuz some men will sleep with other women.
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
Anonymous22let me also state the obvious. Women use sex to manipulate men. Of course this can backfire cuz some men will sleep with other women.
Any woman who considers sex as some kind of a reward will soon find out she is out of my life. No woman will ever be that important to me.
Like it has been said many times on this forum, the only thing a woman has to offer is her smelly hole (often loose) that smells like tuna. That can also come with the added bonus of std or other diseases.
That can be found for free. Or by paying a few bucks for it, which might even be a better option (no drama).
Ladies, are you listening? You are really not worth that much.
Because they use sex as a weapon to control men. Sex is basically everything they can offer. Take sex away from their offerings and they are left with nothing else to exploit us.
And yes, sex is extremely overrated. I don’t know what’s the deal about it.You can get sex more easy and cheaper than that: Hookers, porn and fleshlights are great alternate ways to get sex.
Once you’re used to it, you literally see no point in getting laid anymore, except if they wanted sex as much as we want and wouldn’t drain our resources. And when I say “want to have sex” I really mean it, not that they say “i want sex” but don’t get it.I want sex. What do I do? Do I go and spend my time, money and energy on women? No, I’m watching some erecting feeling movies 🙂 Now I got what I wanted. Next…
"We are free to follow our own path. There are those who will take that freedom from us, and too many of you gladly give it. But it is our ability to choose – whatever you think is true – that makes us human. There is no book or teacher to give you the answers, to show you the path. Choose your own way! Do not follow me, or anyone else."
Women have using sex as a weapon or tool against men for thousands of years. Thanks to the internet and websites like this, men are starting to learn that sex isn’t that hard to get and that it is overrated.
There is a false perception that pussy is hard to get. This idea starts when you are going through puberty. The amount of available girls willing to have sex with you at that age is virtually zero so there is a perception that getting laid is hard to do. When you’re in Junior High, the girls want High School guys and when you’re in High School, they want college guys. The exceptions are the guys that have something that girls can exploit at that age. How many guys did you know in High School that had a car and WASN’T letting some bitch ride to school with him?
As a man gets older and he manages to land some tail, he still has the false perception that what he is getting is very hard to get so he does anything and everything he can to keep the pussy coming. He’ll make the stupidest most irrational decisions because he is afraid of losing his source of pussy. Women know this also and exploit the s~~~ out of it. I admit, I am speaking from first-hand experience here.
It all comes down to your money and resources. This is why as men age, they become better looking to women. It’s not that we get sexier, it’s that our knowledge, experience, resources and money supply have grown and look more attractive to them. A woman will be your personal cum dumpster if you have something she needs. She’ll do anything she can to make you think that SHE is the only one who will do “those things” for you. Once a women gets what SHE wants out of the relationship, she could give two s~~~s less about the man. This is why marriage, relationships and even co-habitation is not in the best interests of the male. You get promised a life time of hot sex until you move in with her or get married and when she doesn’t deliver, you have no recourse other than to leave her and start over. Women know this which is why co-habitation and/or marriage are such linchpins for women.
What they don’t want you to know is that they want it just as bad as you. They also don’t want you to know that between the internet porn, prostitution and fleshlites, you have other options that are making them obsolete.Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
They also don’t want you to know that between the internet porn, prostitution and fleshlites, you have other options that are making them obsolete.
by the way…..women buy sex toys more than men! stuff like vibrators, dildos, or s~~~……
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
Because they use sex as a weapon to control men. Sex is basically everything they can offer. Take sex away from their offerings and they are left with nothing else to exploit us.
And yes, sex is extremely overrated. I don’t know what’s the deal about it.At times in my life when I’ve been in relationships I just found myself wondering why I’m bothering. For maybe the 30 minutes a week my c~~~ was in a pussy or a mouth, it wasn’t worth all the extra drama and bulls~~~ she brought to the other 10,050 minutes of the week.
There’s a much deeper point to consider here.
Let me also state the obvious. Women use sex to manipulate men.
It’s not as obvious as it appears, and I would slightly adjust your understanding of that:
Women use *NO* sex – to manipulate men.
Think about it. What does a “whore” do?
She doesn’t actually HAVE (or enjoy) sex openly and freely.
She does NOT have sex ….. until she gets something ELSE.She doesn’t actually get what she wants by f~~~ing.
She gets what she wants by WITHHOLDING IT and behaves like it’s unattainable.She requires some other price to be paid (or condition to be met) first. How many women have you met that take the same attitude? They don’t list of reasons to HAVE sex (or to say “yes”), they talk about NOT having sex – unless.
• “I will NOT have sex until he tells me he loves me”.
• “I will NOT have sex until he takes me out 5 times first”.
• “I will NOT have sex until he proposes marriage”.
• “Fix the bathroom tiles honey, or there will be no nookie for you tonight”.
(whore in her own marriage)
• “If you don’t let me win this video game – no sex for a f~~~ing month.”.That’s a “whore” mentality. They don’t use sex to manipulate men, they actively try and withhold it. This is why women have such a problem with “cheating”. They are not p~~~ed off because you can get it elsewhere, they are p~~~ed off when they can’t cheat you OUT of it.
Her inability to to manipulate you by withholding it is what p~~~es her off. That’s why they go ape s~~~ on your personal property and start throwing a fit. Because she is a FAILURE at being an effective whore.
… and every “slut” that puts out for less — lowers every whore’s price.
She can’t expect a diamond ring when a “slut” will f~~~ you for free.This is why whores shame sluts. It’s got nothing to do with men. Her “self-worth” (and self-esteem) is largely based on how much she can get from men, by NOT f~~~ing. This is why women who get all kinds of dinners, attention, favors etc. by not f~~~ing are so high on themselves. When it doesn’t work, she loses her f~~~ing mind.
Any woman who considers sex as some kind of a reward will soon find out she is out of my life.
And you wouldn’t be alone on that.
/audio/women-who-use-sex-as-a-bargaining-tool/Because they use sex as a weapon to control men. Sex is basically everything they can offer. Take sex away from their offerings and they are left with nothing else to exploit us.
And yes, sex is extremely overrated. I don’t know what’s the deal about it.Again, I would re-iterate for every man’s benefit:
They don’t actually “offer” anything at all.
They DON’T offer it. and that’s their whole game.Women have actually convinced themselves that being thought of as a “slut” (or a “whore”) is bad. But there is certain respect to have for sluts. At least she’s not behaving like a slut while pretending she’s NOT a slut.
There is a false perception that pussy is hard to get.
And the moment you realize all of this, the woman’s game fails. Women are hornier than you. That’s why they have vibrators. Because they can’t get enough orgasms. She will actually “let you buy her dinner”, and then go home and dildo herself or go f~~~ someone else later who didn’t buy her dinner.
The dinner whore didn’t f~~~ to get what she wanted.
She did NOT f~~~ to get what she wanted.When a man wraps his head around that, the whore’s price plummets.
have you ever been in sexless relationship? how did you handle it? what did you learn?
No. Never. Sex is the entire biological point between men and women, and there is no other reason to associate with her. If she’s not putting out, I’m not putting out.
There were relationships that went “stale” and sex became less frequent, but that’s okay. I didn’t always want it every day either, but if she ever behaved like a “whore” in our relationship, it was now over. Any female who behaved like a whore for negotiating power was immediately out. I have met countless women like that but I would just never get involved with them. They would want sex from me more than I wanted it from them. Especially in a relationship.
When I’m done, I’m done. She would go all night if she could have her way.
And based on that alone, I knew all women are hornier than me.
Knowing this, a “whore” would never get away with it.Over the years, I might go on a date and a girl would say “no sex tonight”… or “just to make it clear upfront, you’re not getting laid tonight”….. to which I would reply “watch me”. And then I would get up and leave her there – just to make it clear.
She’s a whore who attempted to get what she wanted by withholding it.
She can find another sucker for that.The same girl doesn’t give a s~~~ about my orgasm, but when she’s in a relationship, she will want another one after she already had one? F~~~ her , or don’t f~~~ her. I don’t really give a s~~~. She can go f~~~ herself instead.
The day you learn that women are hornier than you, is the day they can’t manipulate you anymore by withholding it. And that’s what p~~~es them off.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.If she’s not putting out, I’m not putting out.
“Either f~~~ me, or f~~~ you.”
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
“Either f~~~ me, or f~~~ you.”
That’s the ticket!
But if a modern woman was SMART, she would understand her source of “power” is not even to f~~~. Ask any woman “the way to a man’s heart” and she will tell you it’s through his stomach – or zipper – because they are brainwashed. But it isn’t.
It’s the easiest thing in the world to make a man WANT to come home to her, repeatedly. A woman could single-handedly have her choice of men, and eliminate thousands of women from her field of competition very easily. But I won’t reveal it here. This site is for men. ( We don’t give women “tips” on how to be successful in their personal relationships. )
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Yesterday afternoon, I was pool-side soaking up the sun. On the other side of the pool, there were TWO 30+ women and I overheard one of them talking into her phone (to a guy) about “the best way to compliment a guy”. She was asking “what kind of compliments to guys like to hear? Would he rather hear you’re handsome or hot?”.
I thought it was fascinating because it was just another example of how clueless women are about men. She thought she could appeal to a man by complimenting him on his LOOKS.
So when I headed out and passed them, the loud one said “OMG was I being loud?”
I said “well I overheard you but it’s not a problem. Do you really want a man’s opinion on that? Or should I just keep walking…” and they begged me to stay.
I explained that I manage a men’s interest website with 13,000 members and we talk about this stuff.
She said “Wow! What site is that?”I said with a smile “I can’t tell you, it’s just for men”.
(The look on her face was priceless. She was smiling and then it immediately changed to miffed.)
I told her complimenting a man on his LOOKS is meaningless to him.
If you want to compliment a man, you compliment him on his WORK and what he DOES.• You’re so smart / strong / hard-working
• You’re so resourceful.
• You’re good with tools and your knowledge of cars is amazing…. etc.… but women don’t say that s~~~. That’s the LAST thing a modern female will tell you. She is so busy breaking men down and telling men that we’re all stupid and useless, and that’s why she’s a failure in her personal life.
• Instead of saying “he’s hard working”, she says “he obsessed with work”.
• Instead of saying “he’s smart”, she says “he demeans my intelligence”.
• Instead of saying “he’s protective”, she says “he’s oppressive”.It blew their minds, and the other one said “That makes perfect sense. Maybe that’s why were still single.”
I said “Oh is that a problem for you? Because I enjoy being single, it’s the only way to live, really. I actually prefer it. Well, have a great weekend!”
… and then I left. Just ass-f~~~ed their hamsters.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.think as we go our own way, time to cut focus on the meathole which enslaves men and keeps them from Tesla Greatness.
I still find this notion that Teslas genius stemmed from his celibacy to be ludicrous. If that were true, every 25 year old virgin would be Tesla.
I think, if anything, that you’ve got the causality reversed. Tesla was probably disinterested in sexual intimacy because of his overactive mind, not the other way around.
Please stop peddling this myth that avoiding sex will make you a genius, that’s almost as bad as nerds being proud of having autism. Or if you actually believe it, let’s see some defensible research on the topic… some double blind laboratory studies, statistics correlating IQ to sexual desire, etc.
But hey, the more guys you can convince to go “Tesla Mode”, the more sexually appealing females there are available out there for me so yeah, keep it up!
The day you learn that women are hornier than you, is the day they can’t manipulate you anymore by withholding it. And that’s what p~~~es them off.
Absolutely. Look, I get that women use the lure of sex to get what they want in life. How the hell else are 95% of them going to survive? It must be hell for them to want sex as much as they do and be forced to resist it for political and economic purposes… like the U.S. running an oil embargo.
I think it was Stanhope who did a bit about how regular women see prostitutes like they’re scabs crossing a picket line. “You’re selling it for what it’s WORTH?! But we’re holding out for so much MORE!’
I respect a professional whore because she knows her value and charges openly for it. In this scenario, she’s an honest worker, selling a service for a reasonable price whereas the typical girlfriend or wife is a con artist, trying to scam a guy with the mere suggestion that he might get something of value… and the sluts are just happy to work for free out of love of the job, pretty much like men are.
If you want to get laid (and let’s be honest, who doesn’t?) then the trick is to be physically attractive and a bit dangerous looking and appear to have nothing to offer except for a good time. You hang out where the horny women go to look for dick, you mind your own business and let them engage with you, you tell them you just got out of prison and are crashing at a friend’s place while he’s out of town and BOOM, you’re in.
Then when you take them back to “your friend”s place” you can impress them by pointing out all the bulls~~~ expensive crap “he” owns, f~~~ her rotten on “his” leather couch then kick her out.
I respect a professional whore because she knows her value and charges openly for it. In this scenario, she’s an honest worker, selling a service for a reasonable price whereas the typical girlfriend or wife is a con artist, trying to scam a guy with the mere suggestion that he might get something of value… and the sluts are just happy to work for free out of love of the job, pretty much like men are.
Amen to that!
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
I respect a professional whore because she knows her value and charges openly for it.
So do I. Because at least she’s looking for a reason to say “yes” – instead of “no”.
That’s the big difference.
She will come over WHEN you want — to give you exactly WHAT you want — and she’s not leaving until YOU are completely satisfied. How many “whore” girlfriends and wives are that interested in pleasuring a man for all they expect him to invest in them???
I have complete respect for a whore who embraces what she is.
But you can’t respect a “whore” who pretends she’s not a whore.That’s a whore of a different color.
A REAL (professional) whore wants to appeal to me. She wants to give me “the girlfriend experience”. She listens. She wants me to feel comfortable. She wants to be a warm blanket. And she SMILES.
Your average “whore” frigid girlfriend (or wife) is only interested in being as cold as a refrigerator and has a personality you can store meat in.
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In the story above (about the girls I met poolside yesterday), she was asking “the best way to compliment a guy”. That’s a manipulation in itself. She’s not even interested in HONESTLY complimenting him on what she LIKES about him, she just wants to know what he wants to hear.
It floored me, really.
I’m thinking … is she THAT f~~~ing out of it?
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I have complete respect for a whore who embraces what she is.
But you can’t respect a “whore” who pretends she’s not a whore.That’s a whore of a different color.
i watched that video now.
the ladies said they want to follow old traditions….men should pay for the dates……ok. old tradition says women don’t get to vote.
i hate when women pick and choose.
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
the ladies said they want to follow old traditions….men should pay for the dates……ok. old tradition says women don’t get to vote.
RIGHT!
She’s “TRADITIONAL??”
OKAY! Like the comedian said….. “I got no problem with that, honey. How far back do you want to go with this “remember-the-times” stuff??”
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I said “Oh is that a problem for you? Because I enjoy being single, it’s the only way to live, really. I actually prefer it. Well, have a great weekend!”
… and then I left. Just ass-f~~~ed their hamsters.
KM-
That s~~~ is priceless…I agree. It makes it more difficult for some men than others.20% of the men are getting 80% of the pussy.Some guys have a confidence that they are going to get all the pussy. Others hope they get lucky. I was told by a older women the secrete years ag.She owned a couple of bars and I was became a friend.There was this broke skinny little ugly guy that all the gals were nuts over.After watching this guy I could not understand how this guy got women.Sharon told me he had confidence.Women love a guy with confidence and will dance with them. After this news and paying attention she was right.Today MGTOW gives us the facts to use. Women want money. Women know pussy has a value but Money works everywhere. Pussy is exchanged in a lot fewer locations All pussy is for sale. It is like car salesmen some salesperson will wait for a fool to pay outrages for some thing. You may not close deal but there are other deals going on. Women control one pussy,they can sit on it but it is not going to draw any interest . They can keep you from f~~~ing one pussy,hers .More broke and begging are looking for your money than guys with money are looking for her pussy
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