What would you tell this guy?

[ScandinavianParticipant 590]

ILiveAgain wrote:

You open the door and walk out. He’s not ready for that and they’re feeding off each other. It’s one of those fked up relationships that if you try and help …. they’ll both turn on you. He just has to open the door and walk out. Hell he could even plan it over time ….. but …. he’s still trying to reason with the unreasonable. Do nothing ….. it won’t work coz they’re both screwed up.

 

I second this. Sorry; I’d love helping a fellow man, but it doesn’t work when someone think they can get away whole from a divorce, cause that is not happening, especially with children involved.

 

If this was in my country I would say “call child service”, here they take kids faster than you can say ‘authority abuse’, and then the children would be away from them while they split up.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I dont’ blame any of you for not being able to listen to it. I had it on the background and it was testing my patience. Share the same intuition with Brain Pilot and have a nose to avoid women like that. If she isn’t radiant or warm, I’m already gone. Don’t even look for signs of crazy. She doesn’t hear or listen, and is only thinking of the next thing she is going to say. In a marriage all by herself and he’s the roommate.

ILiveAgain wrote:

You open the door and walk out. He’s not ready for that and they’re feeding off each other.
It’s one of those fked up relationships that if you try and help …. they’ll both turn on you.

Based on his email alone, I would have driven to his house LAST NIGHT to help him….
until I heard the recorded audio. Had exactly the same thought.

Thank you all for the responses. I hope he reads them.
The moment he doesn’t live in fear anymore is the day it’s GAVE OVER for her.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

I dont’ blame any of you for not being able to listen to it. I had it on the background and it was testing my patience. Share the same intuition with Brain Pilot and have a nose to avoid women like that. If she isn’t radiant or warm, I’m already gone. Don’t even look for signs of crazy. She doesn’t hear or listen, and is only thinking of the next thing she is going to say. In a marriage all by herself and he’s the roommate.

ILiveAgain wrote:

You open the door and walk out. He’s not ready for that and they’re feeding off each other. It’s one of those fked up relationships that if you try and help …. they’ll both turn on you.

Based on his email alone, I would have driven to his house LAST NIGHT to help him…. until I heard the recorded audio. Had exactly the same thought. Thank you all for the responses. I hope he reads them. The moment he doesn’t live in fear anymore is the day it’s GAVE OVER for her.

If he reads these replies I also want him to know that he won’t be alone if he walks. We are here for support and advice.

Nothing can be done while he’s in that place with her.

Hell if I lived nearby I’d help him move out. However, just like giving up smoking … it must be a mindset change.

I hope he can do it ….. because if he doesn’t …. it WILL get worse …. and become very dangerous.

WE ARE HERE

[kolabear01Participant 0]

I just wanted to say that this person has been through the ringer yes it would be easier to say to get up and leave but in this case it just not that simple when you have 2 babies and are very disable. If there is any help out there this person needs this help he been physically abuse mentally abuse you name it and it just getting worse. Every time he tries do help him self he just gets shot down or can’t get out to get help because of fear of what is going to happen to those babies. He needs information help on how to get his disability faster so he can get out of their. Every person he has gone to doesn’t want to believe a man can get abuse but it can I have seen it with my own eyes. It is very scary how a women who is a piece s~~~ can break a person down so far that they believe they should be treated like this that they deserve this . This makes me sick to my stomach. This women needs to put in jail or a mental facility. All this man has going for him his is two daughters that he loves and fears of losing because of this piece of s~~~ bitch.  he has to be real careful because everything he does this bitch tracks him, he is trying to take the necessary steps to help him and his kids but if anyone, anyone has any ideas what can help this poor guy that would be great. This bitch is so crazy she actually believes she is a man so she thinks it is ok in her mind to beat and act like a man. She is a complete psycho. He has gone to the police but the police can only go by protocol. They only can do something when they see something and this bitch is to smart for this. Something has to happen before this person and his two beautiful daughters has something bad happen.

[WildchunkParticipant 1]

This is me. I am the guy in the video. I’ve emailed this video to a detective several times. After reaching out to MGTOW last night, he finally contacted me back this morning only i had to act like he was a telemarketer because she was watching me, he said he never got the email but did receive my voice messages and they he wants to help and i did say yes to the help. i have left him two voicemails since she left for work today and my sister has also left a message. i just wanted to be clear that this recording was the very first time shes came all the way out and said these things to me. i’ve attempted recording her before but she is just so much smarter than me. just to clear some things up. im still waiting for a reply for my disability. i have severe degenerative disc disease throughout my entire spine and have already been operated on once. severe arthritis and carpal tunnel in both hands as well as emphysema. My neurologist couldn’t believe i could even walk after my MRI. he said (with my wife in the room) that it looked like i had been hit by a truck, truth is i have, twice but couldn’t say anything. i can’t stand, sit or lay in any position for very long at all without extreme pain and my wife out weighs me by a hundred pounds. she is a bully and i do not love her. i was just saying what i had to to pacify her and keep the tape going as long as i could. i have a plan and that plan is dependent on either my disability being approved or the police actually taking me seriously. i love my kids so much. i can’t just leave them to her. if there were any way to guarantee their safety in exchange for my own life i wouldn’t even have to think about it.  you guys have got to understand. i’ve watched my wife put cigarettes out on her legs, slash herself with knives, slam her face into door frames and slam her own arms in doors just to stop me from leaving. every disagreement turns into threats of jail for me or harm to myself or taking the kids away from me. she acts so kind and fake in front of the entire world and tries to convince anyone that will listen that shes a victim. nothing she does is ever her fault and she just thrives on the pity of other women. especially her extremely wealthy mother. she’s had me install trackers on both our phones just so i can see my family occasionally and even then if i don’t answer the phone right when she calls, i clearly must be cheating and that leads to the threats or actual violence.  then, the next day everything’s peachy keen and she buys me toys, like this pc for… actually i cant remember what i got this for but three weeks ago i had either a massive panic attack or a “stress induced mini-stroke” that hospitalized me for a day because she had been screwing with head all day but no actual violence. i got a puppy i never wanted for that. its just one more thing i have to take care of and clean up after. i want out and im getting out but i’ll never leave my kids behind and frankly can’t respect any man that would leave their children with someone like her. any time she takes them anywhere my 2yr old comes back with bumps and bruises that i photograph and send to my sister to keep safe, as well as severe diaper rashes like they hadn’t been changed all day and they’re always both hungry.  yet my oldest chases after my wife like she’s just the greatest, always seeking her mothers affection and nearly always being turned away. i see her controlling behavior gradually shifting onto my oldest as well as watched my oldest starting to try controlling me, our dogs and her baby sister. i appreciate all of the support on here but some of you have got me wrong. hell until last year we were living in a cabin without electricity or running water at the top of a mountain in WV. that’s where the violence was the worst. She was absolutely off the walls wild out there where there were no witnesses, friends or family. she only agreed to let us move back to MI after she made herself pregnant again by repeatedly blocking the cabins only door and coercing me into sleeping with her. i believe that’s called rape. she didn’t care if we needed firewood or gas for the generator or even if my oldest was outside in a stroller alone. im not a person to her. im a tool. a possession. just a means to an end.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Wildchunk wrote:

i love my kids so much. i can’t just leave them to her. If there were any way to guarantee their safety in exchange for my own life i wouldn’t even have to think about it.

Everybody understands that… but so does SHE.

So does SHE.

Don’t begin a sentence like that with “IF” – because it’s not an option. Don’t even IMAGINE it. Even *if* you are willing to trade, it wouldn’t *guarantee* their safety. So strike it from your mind. Don’t even offer it up. It’s not a solution or a negotiating point. Nobody here isn’t convinced and everyone understands the severity of the situation.

GET YOURSELF OUT.

i want out and im getting out but i’ll never leave my kids behind and frankly can’t respect any man that would leave their children with someone like her.

Anyone can understand that too. But would a self-respecting man STAY?

REPEAT: Would a self-respecting man stay?

Don’t concern yourself with not respecting other men who were forced out. They are not the issue here. They didn’t want to leave either. Many of them were ORDERED to leave their kids and forced into no other possible choice. You are still free. There are men here who were told they can’t visit their kids anymore at the hands of a destructive female.

Not negotiating with a terrorist can be your policy. Consider making it your policy.
If she threatened to hurt the kids, then she is not fit to parent. She is certainly not fit to be a “wife”.

Don’t permit her to hurt THREE people.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[WildchunkParticipant 1]

police officer arrived to take my statement, says tape means nothing its just a voice and that he won’t take reports for past incidents and that i need to call while its happening. i tried explaining that whenever i try she hurts herself before they get here and im the one that goes to jail. thanks for all the help guys but i just straight screwed until my disability gets approved or the police see her hurt me

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Wildchunk wrote:

he won’t take reports for past incidents and that i need to call while its happening

If the police won’t take reports for past incidents, why does the media care about what women say Bill Cosby did 25 years ago?? Why does a man get arrested for a false rape charge days, months, years afterwards? They don’t need to be there to see it. And you ACCEPTED this answer from him? If *being there to see it while it’s actually happening* was an actual requirement, delayed “rape” charges would vanish overnight.

What the officer told you is very convenient. And you’re gonna stick around for it to happen AGAIN? You already KNOW it’s YOU that’s going to get dragged off to jail if you stick around for that – even if she is beating YOU.

I have very little tolerance for people who KNOWINGLY stay in (or return to) abusive situations.
If you won’t LEAVE right now…. NOBODY can help you.

For 7 YEARS you have allowed this. Don’t make it 8.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

I forgot what arguing sounds like??? Thanks for reminding me! All I can say is; “Get the f~~~ OUT!” You’re going to get sick and die in that EXTREMELY TOXIC ENVIRONMENT You’re f~~~ing with real live MODERN WITCHCRAFT! I would say run, but in your beaten condition I’d say crawl, crawl with all your might! Your lungs are full of smoke, the fire continues to rage out of control, and your still in the building with the arsonist? Just get the f~~~ out! SAVE YOURSELF !!!

 

[Anonymous 11]

You are in a very precarious situation. She has assumed total control, and you need to leave her.

I think you are seeing the bias of the justice system against men. Start planning your escape and when all preparations are in place drop the trap on her. Also, since the police don’t seem to like your audio evidence you should consider a hidden camera to capture her violence against you. Your situation is going to continue to get worse.

I could not listen to it anymore after I heard the word cuckold. Leaving is going to be very difficult due to your being so enmeshed with her. I can only tell you that after all is said and done if you leave her one day you will look back knowing you made the right decision.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

I could not listen to it anymore after I heard the word cuckold

They are not even HIS KIDS?????

I don’t know why I didn’t pick up on that. Holy s~~~. And he’s still there???

F~~~, man.

GET THE F~~~ OUT NOW. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR!!!!!!!
They are not even your kids!!!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 11]

Keymaster wrote:

They are not even HIS KIDS?????

The woman that finally set me on this path tried to cuckold me. She was a single mom with spawn by two different fathers. I cut bait the first time she tried to cuckold me in public. It was a true what the f~~~ moment.

It takes a lot of strength to get out of dysfunctional relationships. That old GF of mine now friend is in a DV one now. She told me if they broke up she’d forever have feelings for him. I told her no man in his right mind will ever come near her unless she drops him totally. I’ve got people telling me I should get back with her. I wouldn’t ever touch that mess with a 10 foot pole. Meanwhile, her true love is out banging whores, staying out all night, drinking and doing cocaine. The poster that mentioned Stockholm Syndrome is right on target. She just accepts it. I might try sneaking her some red pills.

Man, those are not your kids which makes this even easier for you. You need to get the hell away from her. Your life will improve. Your health will improve. Everything will improve.

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

I fell alseep last night listening to this and wanted to hear it again after work.  I’m 4 beers in and am feeling a buzz right now.

 

Let’s get started shall we, this dude just needs to straight up leave this c~~~s ass!. And i mean PRONTO!. Because two words made me almost lose my Buzz, “PSYCHOTIC MEDICATION”….Yeah, you can put your dick in many types of Women, hell, you wanna f~~~ a fat chic?, GO FOR IT!. However, you don’t not, and I mean EVER put your dick in crazy.

 

This guy is disabled and NEEDS to leave This woman.

 

But it’s up to him to break that form of abuse, and yes Manipulation is abuse. It’s abuse of the mind, when you come home from a long day, after your boss yells at you, or some asshole cuts you off on the road. The last thing you want to deal with as a Man, is a nagging f~~~ing wife, who will twist words around and can start an argument and yet make YOU apologize at the end of the fight.

 

This guy needs to leave this Woman ASAP!. Crazy bitches are nothing to f~~~ with, like a Rabid animal. Yeah looks cute, looks cuddly, you touch that f~~~er and say hello to Rabies.

 

I hope this guy can get out of it, and Amy can get some f~~~ing help. and WTF was the affair with the 64 y/o man about???. I listened to the whole thing, and glad I drank before I did.

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I have seen and watched too many hours of the Maury Povich show. “YOU ARE NNNNOTT THE FATHER!!”.

••••••

You know why? Not because it’s hilarious. I watched because it’s NOT hilarious.

I watched a good months worth of this s~~~. Easily like 20 episodes over 4 weeks. And why? Because I wanted to see ONE – JUST ONE – woman who said “sorry” for what she was trying to get away with. We actually emailed Maury Povich TWICE and asked for ANY CLIP where a woman apologized for attempting to pin fatherhood on the WRONG MAN. Not even a single clip of a woman saying “sorry” in the entire span of that show of maybe 80 samples…. and that’s with a $250K average cost of properly raising one child to 18. She should be BEGGING him for forgiveness. And what does that lump of s~~~ do? Falls to the floor and starts crying.

And what does Maury do? He CONSOLES that piece of s~~~. Aw poor crying worthless trash on the floor. He goes right up to the “victim” and treats her like a poor baby victim and offers her sympathy and understanding instead of congratulating THE MAN FOR SUCCESSFULLY AVOIDING THIS FRAUDULENT C~~~. “YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER” is practically equal to a win like Who Wants to Be A Millionaire!!!

PaternityFraud is unconstitutional and forced slavery. Perfectly legal in all 50 states because women VOTERS don’t believe in “sorry” either. Pay up sucker.

And even if they KNOW he’s not the father…. he can be ordered to pay – or he goes to prison.
Because he once ACTED like the father.

/audio/paternity-fraud/

A woman who attempts this should be sentenced to 18 years in the electric chair or at least shutting her mouth for 18 years.
You don’t STAY WITH the abusive bitch and tell her “I love you I would do anything for you” for 7 years.

You dump her like an anchor with no hesitation or remorse!!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 11]

Crazy does not like being dumped. That borderline that tried to cuckold me kept coming back for months. I’m telling you. You will be much better off in the long run. It’s hard, but once you make your mind up to do it, it gets easier with time. A whole new better life is out there for you if you dump her.

I don’t think feigning beta is going to work in this case. I’d suggest trying to come up with some creative way to get her to dump you making her think it’s her idea. I know you’re disabled, but you will be more enabled without her.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

I would say he takes all the money he has, grabs his daughters and goes to another country.  Stay away from the airports too, pay someone who owns a boat to take you if possible.

[Anonymous 42]

Oh my God! Their NOT HIS KIDS??? WTF!

This reminds me of the worst case of cuckolding I ever witnessed. I was 18 or 19 when a guy we carpooled with (him 22) got married to a Post wall 38 yo with FIVE rugrats of mixed race and all different fathers (remember I’m from Massachusetts, this s~~~’s common) We harangued him worse than feminists harangue Donald Trump, we mutually decided to no longer include him in our car pool, not only that, we renamed him Mumford O’ Crowley… We even came up with a slogan just for him, it went, Mumford O’ Crowley, get that dick out your mouth! That f~~~ing guy lost all respect with everyone in the shop, I can’t even remember his real name.

I’ve never been cuckolded by any child toting princess, I RAN! However, the women I was with all have kids of mixed fathers and mixed races. One after another I watched them ruin their lives, and the lives of the men that got them pregnant. One big fiasco “f~~~ all” is the norm around here, I’m grateful I’m the exception and not the rule!

Back on thread, sorry for drifting…

WTF! What are you still doing there? You’re a nice guy door mat! She’s going to stomp you till you’re dead! You better realize what you’re dealing with, she has all the earmarks of a manipulative and intelligent psychotic narcissist!

I hope you don’t p~~~ her off by alerting her to your intentions, I hope you have your machine password protected, or at least browser history wipe. You’ll be eating rat poison, and drinking antifreeze with psycho like her!

YOU NEED TO DISAPPEAR WITHOUT A CLUE, WARNING, OR TRACE! Or possibly lose your life! Mumford!

[Anonymous 11]

Cuckold is a very old word in the English language so it’s been going on since time began. Intuitively, I believe it to be more commonplace now than in the days of yore. The odds are against this fellow ever doing anything until that internal switch within him flips. I really hope we can inspire him to do it.

My f~~~ this s~~~ switch has always been set on hair trigger.

[Anonymous 42]

F~~~ that C-Pig, I filed my hammer clasp so now it just drops and goes BANG! No suspense, no hair trigger, just BANG!

[endgameBlocked 26]

My ex wife would wait for me to fall asleep during the last two years together. I would constantly wake up with the feeling of choking on something. One night I caught her poking my toe with a needle. Fast forward 7 years later, a new girl becomes my room mate, I wake up seeing her taking something away from my eye lid. Had an eye stye for a while after that. Both instances, they deny doing anything, even though I ask the moment I catch them. They run away like little children, hiding in the bathroom, waiting for you to go away, so they can pretend nothing happened.

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