What would we do if the government someday forces marriage on us men?

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  • #315513
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
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    I just came across this question in another thread and I think it deserves it’s own topic.

    What would we do if the government someday forces marriage on us men?

    Yes, a collection of ideas on how to avoid or circumvent such “emergency measures” any government might impose in order to boost birth rates.

    For me, I have the option that due to pesticide- and heavy metal poisoning my sperm is damaged and might carry “Chronic Fatigue Syndrome” to the child.
    And after state officers would get themselves familiar with the treatment costs, they would most likely “back off”. And I could even prove that in detail and show big folders full of medical attestations.

    But for everybody else:

    A: Have a vasectomy, if they make it illegal, go abroad.

    B: After a vasectomy, fake an accident, go to the doctor an have your sperm checked. Of course you are no longer capable of reproducing due to this accident… And they have to live with that.

    C: Get an attestation of a inheritable disease or genetic defect running in your family.

    D: Pretending or effectively faking a mental dysfunction like “Depression” or “Burn Out Syndrome”.

    E: This seems to be the best option:

    After what almost all of us have gone though in our childhoods or dysfunctional relationships, it is absolutely no problem to find a doctor that will attest you, that – due to child- or spouse abuse you are “no longer capable of leading any intimate relationships”.

    1: It causes you fear and panic attacks when being alone with another person.
    2: You have depression attacks when somebody is around you.
    3: You feel constantly observed and have heart rate problems if someone is around you.
    4: You have brain damage from child abuse that knocked out the part of the brain that deals with managing responsibilities. (e.g. excitotoxicity, caused by a nagging mother).
    5: PTSD from yelling and complaining bitch parents and siblings.

    Chances are good that the government will look at somebody else and leave you alone.

    Because if they force marriage and someone is assigned to an unstable person, they might risk to be sued for resulting damage. Like healthcare for a baby with birth defect…
    Or a battered spouse, in case the unstable person loses their temper.

    So most likely, they will use the “sheeple mangina” type of man for any reproductive scheme.

    So what would be your idea in dealing with this, in case the government passes a law like that?

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #315518
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    Anonymous
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    I just would not. I do not see it being likley at all in the USA. Forcing marrage would violate constitutional rights to freedom and pursuit of happiness. However if such did happen I would not abide and resist, violently if needed. If my freedom is at stake a fight would be on.
    Thats my plan.

    #315519
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    Biggvs_Dickvs
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    Jeebus. Nobody is going to ever force marriage on you. When has this ever happened in history? The closest thing is a bachelor tax, and that is HIGHLY doubtful since under equal protection they would also have to have a bachelorette tax to go along with it and you KNOW that s~~~ aint gonna fly.

    I think a lot of guys here think we have a government/power elite bent on depopulation and/or population control. If that’s true they would want to DIScourage marriage. Can’t have it both ways.

    What kinda kooky s~~~ is this anyway? Time for your meds….

    "Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

    #315521
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    Anonymous
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    What would we do if the government someday forces marriage on us men?

    I would resign my citizenship and permanently move to another country.

    #315527
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    Tuneout
    Tuneout
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    http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-population-2016-1.3783959

    Me thinks they already have the solution-

    30,000 Syrians in one f~~~ing year!

    Look out ,Trump better build the wall!

    Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

    #315545
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    Chaff/Flare
    Chaff/Flare
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    You mean like enforce alimony , child support and take my s~~~?

    When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

    #315546
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    Anonymous
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    I just watched the movie The Lobster last week, it was recommended here by someone awhile back. Anywho, it is a dystopian look at this topic. Great movie, check it out!

    #315547
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
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    29101

    Jeebus. Nobody is going to ever force marriage on you. When has this ever happened in history? The closest thing is a bachelor tax, and that is HIGHLY doubtful since under equal protection they would also have to have a bachelorette tax to go along with it and you KNOW that s~~~ aint gonna fly.

    I think a lot of guys here think we have a government/power elite bent on depopulation and/or population control. If that’s true they would want to DIScourage marriage. Can’t have it both ways.

    What kinda kooky s~~~ is this anyway? Time for your meds….

    Well this happened in history.

    Here in Germany the Nazis had a child breeding operation going that was called “Operation Lebensborn”

    From Wikipedia, in German:

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

    Every “Aryan SS-Man” was assigned his “Aryan bride” to mate with. And the children were raised in a children’s home like institution. If an SS-Man was married to a non “Aryan wife” then the state would force divorce on him. Leaving the SS was no option for a man.

    The Nazis also stole “Aryan looking” babies and children from Poland, Ukraine and Russia that were invaded during WW 2.

    So in emergency situations, the governments do interfere with such matters. Under martial law, many things are possible, even in the USA.

    You also had the draft and people had to die in Korea and Vietnam for no reason…

    Who knows what they will do if the population collapses…

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #315550
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    Honorable_Juice_Box
    Honorable_Juice_Box
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    Jeebus. Nobody is going to ever force marriage on you. When has this ever happened in history?

    To be fair it seems to be more of a hypothetical than a realistic question.

    In any case there have been cases of women marrying themselves (sologamy) and people marrying objects. In our backwards western world you could use their crazy antics against them.

    #315559
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    Anonymous
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    “What would we do if the government someday forces marriage on us men?”

    Get a divorce.

    #315562
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
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    29101

    The closest thing is a bachelor tax, and that is HIGHLY doubtful since under equal protection they would also have to have a bachelorette tax to go along with it and you KNOW that s~~~ aint gonna fly.

    Well you are perfectly right. A bachelor tax would have to hit both genders. And this might even help a little. Who’s willing to take on the risks of marriage and the extreme cost of raising children just to save a few bucks in taxes.

    In Germany we already have a tax system that prefers married people over singles.

    There was a city in Germany that had started such a tax in an absolute unbearable way. Like 2000 DM’s meaning a 1000 Euros per month… But it was taken back and overruled before it went into action.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_tax

    http://www.avoiceformen.com/gynocentrism/a-bachelor-tax-not-so-unlikely/

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-13/the-singlepeople-tax-is-not-working

    Some thoughts on bachelor tax. But even then, my ideas stated in the OP might help someone get out of this tax, by applying for an exemption. After all, they can’t punish sick people…

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #315575
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    ResidentEvil7
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    Nobody is going to ever force marriage on you. When has this ever happened in history?

    You want to bet? I don’t know about now, but in some countries, including China, the parents had arranged marriages to their kids. The parents forced marriages on their kids in hopes of getting their daughters paired up with a successful man.

    https://themanszone.webs.com/

    #315577
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    Anonymous
    3

    It’s not going to happen, don’t worry about it.

    Also there are already heavy bachelor taxes, built into the tax system and various policies. As a man you pay higher rates of tax and get nothing from the government. Women pay a similar rate except they get a ton more in return, and even have a few writeoffs and are demanding more.

    #315578
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
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    29101

    “What would we do if the government someday forces marriage on us men?”

    Get a divorce.

    But in a totalitarian state – feminism is nothing else – you would have to escape with all of your assets to another country. My parents left everything behind in East Germany after the government had disowned all businesses there.

    It is a hypothetical question at the moment. But what happens in 20 years from now…?

    Feminism has all traits from communism. Including the perfect way of lying.

    In late 1960, the government in East Germany said loud and clear that “no wall will be built” and a only few weeks later, the Berlin wall went up.

    But you are right: You get a divorce, then “they marry” you again, then you get your next divorce…

    And they send you to a shrink, and he then gives you the papers that make the government leave you alone.

    That was what my OP was aiming at. Get people to think about what “might happen” and prepare themselves in the background.

    It is a topic that AVFM and Bloomberg currently write articles about, so it should be on our “scope”.

    We must be prepared in some way. And this collection of “counter-ideas” might even scare off the plans of government decision makers. Since they might know, what they are up against.

    And one more thing: MGTOW is worldwide. My OP goes out to men not living in such stable political environments like USA or Europe.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #315582
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    K
    Hitman
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    chances are this will never happen.
    more likely, if martial law is declared then you will see big problems..
    there are huge internment camps built by FEMA..
    for WHO ?
    .
    and sorry to tell you guys..
    but a friend of mine works in the”system”
    i asked him how long does it take to become homosexual in prison..
    .
    he said they had an expression for it…
    .
    STRAIGHT AT THE GATE
    GAY FOR THE STAY .

    #315586
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    Anonymous
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    That was what my OP was aiming at. Get people to think about what “might happen” and prepare themselves in the background.

    I know you mean well, but this type of hysteria is not becoming of a man, it is womanly behavior.

    And people that always present you with annoying hypotheticals are also usually women and are a pain in the ass. “Would you save a 6 month old baby from falling off a cliff or your loyal dog?” It’s bulls~~~ because it’s not going to happen and they just want an excuse to attack your choice.

    At the very least, say what YOU will do under your hypothetical. But I would prefer you move away from this type of thing, as, again, I think it is unbecoming a man.

    #315595
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    TheDudeAbides
    TheDudeAbides
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    117

    Well – tax code is already skewed against unmarried single men.
    So they have already made it costly to not be married and have children.

    But Woopsie! The other laws they passed later made it even MORE expensive to actually get married and have children. Divorce and alimony laws, etc.

    Forced marriages? The women will never go for it. They would all want the same Alphas. Who gets the Alpha first?

    #315604
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    Forced marriages? The women will never go for it. They would all want the same Alphas. Who gets the Alpha first?

    That is why in the “stable Western World” this will not happen. Women would then be opting out.

    And there is our first solution, not to be afraid of something like this. Even if it is all over the media someday… Women feminists will “run storm” against this. Otherwise it might have happened already.

    But Hitler could do it and history has a way of repeating itself.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #315619
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
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    29101

    I know you mean well, but this type of hysteria is not becoming of a man, it is womanly behavior.

    The current growth of MGTOW is also a “new thing” that most of us – including me – celebrate to the max. But I always think what the other side is up to. And try to be one step ahead. maybe this comes from defending myself against a BPD bitch as a child.

    Reading the thoughts of a woman like a book.

    And the other side will get “hysteria” by seeing our success.

    So what will they do when MGTOW explodes…?

    What will bitch sister do when I bring home a good school report and she get jealous and becomes violent…?

    They have already thought about s~~~ like that. That is how I read about it in the first place. It is not out of my brain or distant fantasy.

    It just can’t do wrong, showing the opposite side “f~~~ off, we are prepared”

    And we can even “think like women would think”… And it makes them sick if they think that they are superior to us, just to see that we are one step ahead of their thinking…

    It makes borderlines explode when they see that you have already dismantled their disguise…

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #315629
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    What would we do if the government someday forces marriage on us men?

    There is already outrageous pressure from women to do that.

    If someone has to FORCE you to do it, then there is NOTHING GOOD ABOUT IT. I want to laugh when women use threats, force, promises of condemnation, “cut of his dick HA HA”, and last resort sales pitches like what about just not dying alone?, but it’s really mentally sick. Can’t she get a man to want to marry (or live with) her voluntarily?

    “IF” is the saddest word in the English language and it is nowhere based in reality. “What if” questions are good when talking about stretching the limits to achieve something AWESOME… but not marriage.

    Someone once asked “what if gays could get married?”
    And now they can.

    So now…. marriage is for gays.
    Force them instead.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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