What would happen if all men were MGTOWs?

[Math RoninParticipant 86]

Perhaps this question (or some variation of it) has been posed before, but I was wondering what would happen if all men became MGTOWs?

Being a MGTOW, I will never waste my time on a serious relationship with another woman again, and I assume the same is true for a lot of other MGTOWs. I don’t want to paint MGTOWs with too broad a brush,  but it seems pretty safe to say that that marriage is to a MGTOW what Kryptonite is to Superman. But if this is true and all men “woke up and took the red pill”, as we sometimes wish other men we see suffering would, it seems there would be some very serious consequences. One obvious one would be a vastly reduced birth rate. Not that I’m against this (world is over populated as it is), but mathematical models of population growth show that if the population rate stays below a certain threshold, the population eventually goes to extinction. Moreover, as some portions of the population breed and others don’t, changes in the population’s characteristics occur. From these observations, some interesting questions emerge:

Would the human race be able to keep itself from extinction if all men became MGTOW and if so, how?

If all men being MGTOW would threaten our continued existence as a species, is it perhaps a built in consequence of evolution that we need “blue pill” men?

If “blue pill” men are the only ones procreating what does that say about their offspring? Will the “red pill” men characteristics die off or be marginalized if they don’t reproduce?

Interested in hearing if others have wondered about this and if so, what their thoughts are.

[UmbreonParticipant 152]

I imagine if all the world went MTGOW it would look like the Furry Fandom. The major difference being that furries step away from the crappy world by creating their own reality while MTGOWs just step away from the crazies and try to find a quiet path in this reality.

Furries generally aren’t into kids or marriage. It’s not unheard of for people to just go and get sterilized while they’re young as to avoid the kids bullet entirely. Being openly gay isn’t discouraged at all and might even be encouraged in some circles as a way to enjoy sex without dealing with children or the other gender. Males dominate art and literature with most relationships being gay-themed to note the lack of interest in women with small circles of straight men sharing straight art and stories where the rest of the populace doesn’t have to deal with it.

Alternate relationship patterns like swapping and swinging are not taboo, but you are expected to let people know you are into them if they want to get into a relationship with you just to make sure everyone is cool with it. Due to general acceptance of alternate relationship patterns, cheating is usually defined as “I thought we agreed on no swinging you bastard” and not “having sex with someone who isn’t your mate”. Nobody gives anyone else trouble just because they’re single or they look single.

Transgenderism is encouraged in those who want to switch genders due the the lack of breeding. Male to female is often coupled with a sense of shame as they are taking on the lesser sex, but that’s a kink to some people (look up “feminization”). None the less, chicks with dicks have a cult following among gays who are shy and bisexuals. Female to Male is applauded and greatly encouraged to increase the number of men in the world. As to removing the last traces of femininity, transmen have a saying: “hormones are magic!”

Breeding is looked down upon. If you do breed, you are expected to keep your kids the f~~~ away from the adults. In fact, the only times kids are welcome are where they are expressly permitted such as conventions during the day and events geared at children. Bringing your kids to a party will get you booted. Children are typically raised in the fandom and their parents values are passed on to them. It’s not uncommon to see children picking their first fursona around age 6-10 and making a costume to join their parents. The MTGOW translation would be children around 6-10 being taught the hard truths about the world instead with women being broken of any brood-bitch leanings and men being taught to be cautious and wise.

I really think more furries would be MTGOW if they knew about us. Many are already so close it’s scary.

Beauty fades, dumb is forever.

[Math RoninParticipant 86]

Umbreon wrote:

I imagine if all the world went MTGOW it would look like the Furry Fandom. The major difference being that furries step away from the crappy world by creating their own reality while MTGOWs just step away from the crazies and try to find a quiet path in this reality.  

Interesting….I never heard of Furry Fandom before.

One thing you said that caught my attention was that “they create their own reality”, what does that mean? Aren’t they really creating a type of fictional role playing (like “Star Wars”)? I mean they surely can’t go to work dressed as animal characters (maybe except for the guy who works at Chuck E Cheese 🙂 ).

[VictorParticipant 124]

Math Ronin wrote:

If all men being MGTOW would threaten our continued existence as a species, is it perhaps a built in consequence of evolution that we need “blue pill” men?

I think this is likely to be close to the truth.  We do need blue pill men in order to sustain the species.  If enough of these men abandoned that mentality, we would begin to have serious social problems.  MGTOW is really an elitist position, for society’s leaders.  I know that sounds conceited, but think about the implications of mass MGTOW-type consciousness.  It’s a bit like atheism: it’s good for people with the brains to handle it, but it might be better to let the masses stay dumb and god-fearing, at least for the time being.

Math Ronin wrote:

  If “blue pill” men are the only ones procreating what does that say about their offspring? Will the “red pill” men characteristics die off or be marginalized if they don’t reproduce? 

Almost all of us here will be the sons of blue pill men, so there is no barrier to education down the generations, but for the reasons given above, I suspect MGTOW-type views will always be marginalised, necessarily so.  This stuff is dark magic – it’s not for mass consumption.

Math Ronin wrote:

One obvious one would be a vastly reduced birth rate. Not that I’m against this (world is over populated as it is),

Just a diversion, and not wishing to be awkward, but this annoying ‘over-population’ trope is being repeated all over this forum, yet as far as I can tell there is no evidence to support it.  Over-population in what sense?  A high global population does not equate to over-population.  Resources are abundant.  Problems such as mass starvation, if it truly exists, and other resource problems, are due to the type of socio-economic system existing globally, and possibly also the inability of some racial groups to sustain industrialised societies.  It seems to me this over-population crap gets talked about a lot in Western countries, but developing countries happily continue breeding at very high rates.  Should we whites sacrifice ourselves so that humanity can regress back to Stone Age conditions?  Something to think about.

[Anonymous 3]

Same thing that happened after WWII when a huge chunk of the male population died: women became submissive, men were allowed to be men, and there was incredible economic growth, prosperity and morality.

When men stop pandering to women and giving them a free pass in life, women turn around and actually become good mates. And at that point, men do take care of them.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

If we are speaking about absolutes then her is what I think about some of what you are asking.

Math Ronin wrote:

Would the human race be able to keep itself from extinction if all men became MGTOW and if so, how?

The lesbians would have procreate through artificial insemination.

Women would have to actually stand by their words in that they don’t need a man.  They too would go to a clinic to get a clam chowder injection.

Math Ronin wrote:

If “blue pill” men are the only ones procreating what does that say about their offspring? Will the “red pill” men characteristics die off or be marginalized if they don’t reproduce?

In event that these “blue pillers” were the only ones procreating, then the divorce rate would plummet.  If a woman wanted back on the carousel, then she would only have manginas to choose from.

Men would spontaneously become red pill.  They would have aging MGTOW examples to follow.  They would see the way their mothers treat their fathers and seek an alternative.  The only way to shut this down would be to repeal the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution.

I don’t believe that the population numbers would dangerously contract.  If we see (years from now) a pendulum swing in completely the other direction because of trends, such as MGOTW, Japanese Herbivores, MRA, etc, then men would once again be, if not in the driver’s seat, then be able to equally negotiate with women.  The problem is that men would have to be educated from birth in the ways that women manipulate men and politics, or woman would have to be taught real maturity from birth.  Or both.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Just a ManParticipant 954]

Just a diversion, and not wishing to be awkward, but this annoying ‘over-population’ trope is being repeated all over this forum, yet as far as I can tell there is no evidence to support it.

The more people there are the more easily they are controlled. When there are more people then there is more competition for jobs, even without technology rendering many of them obsolete. More people also means less space for these people. We mostly congregate in cities now, probably a good thing, but it forces people to reduce their boundaries. More people will take advantage of the ever smaller growing boundaries and do stupid/crazy s~~~. Technology, once again, plays a roll in this with “instant” media(almost all propaganda these days). With more people, and most living in cities,  and ever smaller boundaries it also makes people more reliant on an outside agency to ensure their safety, “freedoms”, access to “necessaries”, while also taking away their abilities to do this themselves, and of course loss of individuality.

Banding together, back when our species was first coming out of caves and were in danger of being killed by about everything on the planet, ensured our safety. It did punish those who went their own way, but at that time it was necessary for survival. In fact throughout our history as a species we have “banded together”, with only few spans of time where individuals were not punished for being so. The difference now being we have won the War against nature and are not in danger of being exterminated, not necessarily as a species(that has been several thousand years according to science) but as different societies. Until recently.

We still have starvation(if the media is even to be believed anymore) occurring in 3rd and 4th world nations. This is most likely due to “old” technology and women still spitting out babies, but then take a look at those nations with the latest technology and how that “footprint” is literally changing the planet. The 1st world nations are also breeding less or breaking even at best.

Perhaps the overpopulation issue turns out to be just too much technology too fast which is forcing the “hive” mentality upon us, whether we wish it or not. Hard to say without really being able to separate the two. Would 3rd and 4th world nations, if given the current technologies, also start to break even or decline in population? Is it just 2nd world nations that are the problem? They are clearly the nations breeding out of control and invading others because of this and forcing their forms of society upon us without our consent.

I believe overpopulation is a problem. But it may very well be that over breeding coupled with technology may be the real issue. Or it might very well be just a 2nd world nation problem that is being forced upon the 1st world nations, while the 3rd and 4th world nations balance themselves out due to Darwinism.

My two cents anyway.

Philosophy, the female repellent

[UmbreonParticipant 152]

Math Ronin wrote:

Interesting….I never heard of Furry Fandom before.

One thing you said that caught my attention was that “they create their own reality”, what does that mean? Aren’t they really creating a type of fictional role playing (like “Star Wars”)? I mean they surely can’t go to work dressed as animal characters (maybe except for the guy who works at Chuck E Cheese ).

Well, most Furry Fandom members (they call themselves “Furries” for short) create a fictional animal version of themselves called a Fursona. Sometimes the Fursona is just used to roleplay or make art, however, sometimes you get “lifestylers” who end up trying to be as much like their fictional selves as possible. Lifestylers are often considered weird among furries, especially if they are really into it.

Either way, furries who have fursonas usually reject the nastiness that is reality in favor of a whole lot of daydreaming. They seek out other furries so they can daydream together, swap art, and generally hang out leading to furry communities both in real life and online. In real-life communities it’s very common for them to go by their fursona names as much as possible and some even adopt animal habits like growling or barking. Furry communities online or in real life tend to form “bubbles” where they form their own sort of culture and habits even though the culture typically ends up as a spin on the general theme mentioned in my earlier post.

These community bubbles become their “homes” and they base their perceptions of reality on the culture of the bubble. Being in the bubble for a long time leads to a sort of shared mass illusion of a parallel world where everyone is some sort of toon animal that co-exists just past the everyday world of boring human stuff. Furries still know they’re human and live in a human world, but their minds and hearts are in the toon animal world. A few furries do try to wear ears and tails to work or otherwise around town. They see it as a fun compromise between the two worlds. Some have full costumes they wear on their off time, typically around parks, at conventions, or at furry meet-ups. Most have some sort of animal-themed gear they like to keep around as a symbol of their fursona. Finding a furry with zero gear linked to their favorite character or fursona is super rare.

The furries without fursonas are pretty much no weirder than your average Trekkie or Anime fan, but they tend to not show up in the communities much as they are content to watch cartoons and admire artwork by themselves without all the cooperative daydreaming. You can spot them by the fact that they have the least fantastic names and don’t tend to roleplay. If they do roleplay, they always talk about having “characters” and differentiate them from “fursonas” as they are not their characters in any sense of the word. Their furry gear is all linked to their favorite characters and many have an extensive selection of animated films from all over the world. They generally are also more in-touch with the normal world as they don’t live in the bubble.

Examples of various furry “types”

No Fursona (“Just a fan”): At work he’s Ryan and online he’s Ryan. This guy loves the old Looney Tunes, especially Bugs Bunny. He uses his favorite Bugs Bunny mug at work and his ring tone is a quip from Bugs himself. Online he looks at fan art of Bugs Bunny and talks about restoring the old films.He does not see his fursona self as a “rabbit” (he doesn’t roleplay) nor does he identify with rabbits in general outside of thinking that Bugs is awesome. All his clothes are normal save for one or two Bugs Bunny ties.

Regular Fursona-owning Furry: At work he’s Josh, but online he’s WhiteMoon the wolf. In his off work time he wears a lot of wolf shirts and at work he wears a wolf tie-tack as a personal connection to WhiteMoon. He spends a few hours each day talking in forums and roleplaying as WhiteMoon. Sometimes he spends a little money to have people draw WhiteMoon in various poses. He made a tail that he wears on Halloween and plans to wear it when he finally goes to a furry convention. He can rant and rave about the goings on in his online community and has a slew of beloved and hated artists you have never heard of. His real-life friends tend to call him “wolfie” or “Whitemoon”.

Lifestyler: At work and at home he’s Rheegar Arkaafu. Check his license- he had the name changed. He always wears brown and black to match his otter fursona and would have worn a costume at work if the boss would let him. People compliment his lithe physique. Little do they know he swims three hours a day and eats mostly seafood and veggies like any other otter. He sees himself as an otter taken human shape and seeks other furries so he can feel at home. He owns an expensive otter costume hand made to look just like Rheegar and wears it at every furry meet-up. He never misses a meet! He knows most of the furries in the area personally and proudly proclaims to anyone who will listen that he’s an otter through and through and a “furry for life”. When he’s not working, swimming or hanging with other furries in real life, he’s in a chat room somewhere roleplaying. He can’t masturbate to human porn anymore: it’s all dirty cartoon animals or people in costumes or body paint. A large chunk of his porn stash is art of Rheegar that he commissioned.

Beauty fades, dumb is forever.

[Math RoninParticipant 86]

Victor wrote:

We do need blue pill men in order to sustain the species. If enough of these men abandoned that mentality, we would begin to have serious social problems. MGTOW is really an elitist position, for society’s leaders. I know that sounds conceited, but think about the implications of mass MGTOW-type consciousness. It’s a bit like atheism: it’s good for people with the brains to handle it, but it might be better to let the masses stay dumb and god-fearing, at least for the time being….but for the reasons given above, I suspect MGTOW-type views will always be marginalised, necessarily so. This stuff is dark magic – it’s not for mass consumption.

I agree. And you see just this sort of thing in other organisms. Blue pill men are the equivalent of drones, who are just worker bees without stingers used to mate with the queen. They are a necessary evil to keep the colony alive.

and btw, regarding”over-population”, this was just kinda an off the cuff remark based on anecdotal evidence I hear also (although like Bill Burr, I’m not adverse to 50% of the population having to go…LOL). I think a lot of these comments are made in regard to environmental concerns due to the large amount of harmful waste that is exacerbated by a growing population, but that’s not my area of expertise, so I can’t really make a definitive statement one way or the other.

[Math RoninParticipant 86]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

 In event that these “blue pillers” were the only ones procreating, then the divorce rate would plummet. If a woman wanted back on the carousel, then she would only have manginas to choose from. Men would spontaneously become red pill. They would have aging MGTOW examples to follow. They would see the way their mothers treat their fathers and seek an alternative. .. I don’t believe that the population numbers would dangerously contract.

Although this is a hypothetical situation (like “what if politicians stopped lying”..LOL), it is not so far fetched a scenario. We see, for example, the fertility rates in most of the top industrialize nations continually decreasing. Add that fact with a new generation of guys who see that marriage is not an attractive option and voila, you have a substantial red pill population. Whether the population would “dangerously contract” or not, I suppose is anybody’s guess. But maybe it’s a sign that the pendulum will swing the other way and women will have much less power in the future.

[Anonymous 43]

“What would happen if all men were MGTOWs?”

Cat sales would skyrocket.

More dogs will be sexually assaulted.

Horses too.

Hobby shops would flourish.

Television would die.

Lawyers would starve.

Judges too.

Courts too.

Skiing would increase.

Snow boarding too.

laws would evaporate into obscurity.

Women will too.

But somewhere, at some point, a weak MGTOW will fall for the desperate pleas of a lonely, starved, and begging woman.

The whole ugly cycle would start all over again, because women never stop trying to manipulate men, no matter how desperate they truly are. Species extinction is the only cure! Baby, bathwater, and bathroom thrown out the window is the only thing that gets their attention… look out, duck! another bathtub flies out the window!

   

 

 

 

 

[Math RoninParticipant 86]

Anonymous wrote:

<h2>What would happen if all men were MGTOWs?</h2>

Hmmm… …More dogs will be sexually assaulted. Horses too.

BUT….

Television would die. Lawyers would starve. Judges too.  

Boy, I dunno…. I’m really conflicted now 🙂

[Anonymous 12]

If men were extreme MGTOW then Strip Clubs, Brothels, porn sites would all be out of business.

Women who seriously wanted a man would have to try a whole lot harder and actually contribute something to a relationship beyond their bodies.

 

[HitmanParticipant]

all men wont go their own way.the brave , the burned , the wise  yes.  the rest may slowly shake off the pussy protector syndrome ,,but the little head can think REAL loud sometimes..

[RoyDalParticipant]

Math Ronin wrote:

Perhaps this question (or some variation of it) has been posed before, but I was wondering what would happen if all men became MGTOWs?

An old sci-fi story explored this possibility. The men were rounded up and sent to breeding camps. The camps were not as much fun as it sounded at first to a thirteen year old boy (me).

These days, I suppose the powers that be would do some kind of artificial insemination program, or just make kids in bottles like Huxley’s Brave New World. No pregnancy required, just egg + sperm + high-tech incubator = new tax payer on demand.

Of all the scenarios from speculative fiction, I prefer the ones that involve a life of comfort and leisure. Camps don’t appeal.

Whatever the future brings, I am doing my bit to bring it about by going my own way. Devil take the sheep-people and let them breed all they want.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[….Participant 305]

@ Victor…I’m one of the stupid god fearing people….please use your humongous brain and prove to me beyond a doubt that atheism is true  ..  oh what’s that ? You can’t? That’s funny, I can’t prove God is real either. Why? Because neither of us has died and came back to report what is on the other side. You sound just like a  f~~~ing liberal..or worse, a religious zealot…even if I can’t prove it….I believe it so it’s  true cause I’m so f~~~ing smart.  I have to put up with this s~~~ elsewhere….I’m white, conservative, have faith…so I must be  stupid . F~~~ off.I don’t come here to be ridiculed for my beliefs . Real men should have enough respect for each other to let them have their beliefs without insulting them. So…I’m outta here  Goodbye gents…it was fun while it lasted. KM..if you’re reading this please delete my profile and all my posts. Thanks.  PS Victor…take those chopsticks and stick them up your ass.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@victor

It’s been addressed here many times that MGTOW is a lifestyle choice and not to be compared to a belief system – like religion. That’s why there are many religious MGTOW… and we ask that you kindly refrain from bringing religion into a MGTOW conversation – or insulting the religious.

A man can believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny if he finds some solace in that…. while still being ENTIRELY driven by logic in his everyday life and choices. God can mean “the extremely powerful forces of nature” to a man, and goddammit, a man has EVERY reason to be “god fearing” in that regard.

Push yourself out on to the open sea on a raft for 3 days, and then admit there is no force greater than you deciding to go your own way. Nature will decide if you live or die. You certainly won’t. And looking up to the stars for guidance and comfort to help find your way – even though they can’t help you – won’t make you “STUPID”. EVERY man would be “god fearing” in that situation.

It’s not just a “forum rule” that we ask members to PLEASE don’t belittle religious MGTOW for having a belief system – whatever it is. It’s completely personal and held very close to the heart.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Not a chance in hell all men would ever become MGTOW to begin with. Simple supply and demand. Even *if* 5 out of 10 men said –

“F~~~ it. Im done feeding womens insatiable appetites!” The other 5 would be in such greater demand, that they can now command pussy THAT much easier.

NYC is FILLED to the brim with some of the sexiest girls around. The girls seem to be much more direct, and dont play BS games. Im sure the rapid pace of the city plays a role, but what I think plays a more sigjificant role is that there is a VERY high portion of the male population which is gay in NYC.

Supply and demand.

The SECOND many men stopped giving a s~~~, there will ALWAYS be some dude looking to get his dick wet who would leverage the s~~~ out of the supply to demand ratio.

Resident cynic.

[VictorParticipant 124]

Keymaster wrote:

@victor It’s been addressed here many times that MGTOW is a lifestyle choice and not to be compared to a belief system – like religion. That’s why there are many religious MGTOW… and we ask that you kindly refrain from bringing religion into a MGTOW conversation – or insulting the religious.

Keymaster, for someone who claims to be MGTOW, some of your posts on this forum look quite feminine to me.  You’ve now got your little sissy pants in uproar just because I made a mild, off-hand comment that wasn’t even directed at anyone in particular.

Questions for you:

1. Where did I insult the religious?

2. Notwithstanding 1 above, why shouldn’t we insult/offend people for their beliefs? Can you give me any reason that doesn’t make you sound like even more of a sissy-whiny little mangina?

3. If someone’s beliefs are so precious that they can’t be insulted for them or offended without getting into a sissy-panty-strop, what does that say about those beliefs?

4. Why shouldn’t we discuss religion on here?

Can’t wait for your smart-ass answers, after which I’m sure you’ll get high-fives from all your syncophants on here.

I’m out of here.  I’ve learnt all I can from you.

Keymaster wrote:

A man can believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny if he finds some solace in that…. while still being ENTIRELY driven by logic in his everyday life and choices. God can mean “the extremely powerful forces of nature” to a man, and goddammit, a man has EVERY reason to be “god fearing” in that regard. Push yourself out on to the open sea on a raft for 3 days, and then admit there is no force greater than you deciding to go your own way. Nature will decide if you live or die. You certainly won’t.

Blah, blah, blah, the wise man (woman?) speaks.

Keymaster wrote:

And looking up to the stars for guidance and comfort to help find your way – even though they can’t help you – won’t make you “STUPID”.

Do scientific people look up at the stars too, or if it just god-fearing people?

Keymaster wrote:

  EVERY man would be “god fearing” in that situation. It’s not just a “forum rule” that we ask members to PLEASE don’t belittle religious MGTOW for having a belief system – whatever it is. It’s completely personal and held very close to the heart.

This is total and utter, sissy-panty-whiny bulls~~~, Keymaster.  Moreover, it’s cowardly.  I’m starting to question your bona fides.  This is a discussion forum, and in any case, it was just an off-hand remark on my part.  You’ve gone completely over-board.

…. wrote:

@ Victor…I’m one of the stupid god fearing people….please use your humongous brain and prove to me beyond a doubt that atheism is true .. oh what’s that ? You can’t? That’s funny, I can’t prove God is real either. Why? Because neither of us has died and came back to report what is on the other side. You sound just like a f~~~ing liberal..or worse, a religious zealot…even if I can’t prove it….I believe it so it’s true cause I’m so f~~~ing smart. I have to put up with this s~~~ elsewhere….I’m white, conservative, have faith…so I must be stupid . F~~~ off.I don’t come here to be ridiculed for my beliefs . Real men should have enough respect for each other to let them have their beliefs without insulting them. So…I’m outta here Goodbye gents…it was fun while it lasted. KM..if you’re reading this please delete my profile and all my posts. Thanks. PS Victor…take those chopsticks and stick them up your ass.

Oh dear, the sissy mangina is having a strop.  We can’t have people questioning or insulting the religious.  That’s not on!  Isn’t it funny how these religious people are so quick to take offence and throw out all kinds of disingenuous arguments that aren’t even relevant to the target comment?  Sort of like manginas, white knights and females?  I’m not challenging your beliefs, so calm down.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Victor You should already know that s~~~ doesn’t work.
I’m just gonna ignore all that crap because It’s got nothing do with my “sissy pants”.

I addressed you in a very direct and rational manner , because another user wrote to us and requested to have himself, – and all of his posts – entirely deleted. He’s religious, and won’t tolerate disrespect from other members based on whatever faith he choses to have. And neither do we.

You don’t have to respect ME.

But in order to post here, you DO have to show a minimum amount of respect for other members here.
I’m not deleting other members because you choose to be a f~~~ing asshole. It won’t happen.

So you can hammer your keyboard at “me” until you’re blue in the f~~~ing face for all I care. But if you “sissy whiny mangina” anyone else here again, I will have to remove you. A MINIMUM respect for other members is required. It’s not even demanding anything unreasonable. Criticizing any religion (or race) is unbecoming of MGTOW and totally f~~~ing unnecessary. So are your f~~~ing “sissy pants” attempts. I mean what the f~~~ is that.

Posting here is not your “right”. And I’m not going to delete OTHER members because of YOU. Maybe THEY over-reacted to a “harmless” statement, but I sure as f~~~ did not ….. if you read my paragraphs to you again. So you can cut the girly pants s~~~.

I know you were intending to be hurtful but why?

When you came here looking for support, these people read your posts and responded with empathy.
It would not be acceptable for anyone to tell you you’re just a “stupid mangina whining sissy pants”. Amirite?

You weren’t exactly bullet-proof when you came here either.

So if there is one place where it’s OK to be a little on “the sensitive side” when the rest of the world DOESN’T GIVE A S~~~ about your “feelings”. This is definitely not a place where you can tell guys they are “over-reacting”. When a man commits suicide, is he really “over-reacting”? Or has he just about f~~~ing had ENOUGH.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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