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Anonymous6Greetings Gentlemen. I wanted to know what was the single event or trigger that made you realize that you were going to go your own way. Was it a second divorce? Was it the off hand remark that a girlfriend or wife made?
My event, or should I say catalyst, came when I was in high school. Home coming came around. I, as a young man, was expected to approach the young woman and ask her to the football game. I was supposed to purchase an expensive mum for her as well as tickets to the football game. I was supposed to drive over to her house and pick her up in my car with gas that I had paid for, all with money that I had EARNED from my minimum wage job. After the football game, or before, I was expected to take her to dinner. On my dime as well.
The above described event made me angry when I first encountered it. I couldn’t understand what this was. I had been told that women could do everything that I could do. And they sure did! But there I was expected to treat a woman in a traditional way. But what did I get out of this charade of an event? 1) The chance to hang out with a woman. (Not worth paying for really) 2) The chance to get laid. (I didn’t need to pay for that at that age, many guys got laid back then for no money and little effort) 3) The experience. (An empty experience at best, and an exploitative event at worst)
As a side note I did ask what ever became of the mums. Well they went up onto the wall next to the one that another dude had bought for her the previous year. Oh and did I tell you that the chicks competed with each other for the biggest and best mums? Yep, setting young men up for failure is what that is.
Understand that I still had a journey after that, but I was absolutely not going to pay after that. Nor was I going to bow down to some broads expectations. I screwed up some but you get the gist.
Anonymous18I doubt there is any one isolated event that jolts a man awake.
At most one event serves as a predisposition. A seed. Seed of AWALT.
Prior to MGTOW a man could only doubt but never state aloud.
Now, however, men water this seed, they give it the nurturing it needs to grow into a tree.
There are many seeds. Many a trees.
Lest we forget: the woman sows the seed.
I wanted to know what was the single event or trigger that made you realize that you were going to go your own way
There really wasn’t “one” event. I once sat in bumper-to-bumpoer freeway traffic with my Mom on the way into the city for an appointment. I was about 16 and staring out the rainy window.
I said “I will NEVER do this”.
She said “What?”
“Sit in this traffic two hours a day in each direction for 25 years just to pay off a mortgage… and in that time I need to by 3 or 4 cars to save $100K on a house in the subburbs, when I could just pay more in the city. How do these people not go crazy?”.
“YOU CAN’T SAY THAT!! YOU DON”T KNOW THAT!!”
( she was very vociferous about it. It irritated her to hear me talk like that. )“Oh yes I do. This is hell.”
“DON’T BE SILLY. IT’S NORMAL!!!”
“Then I don’t want to be normal.”
I’m paraphrasing, but it’s nearly exact and she was sure I was wrong, delusional , naive, too young to even have an opinion. But for some reason, I really did know that the world was too big for that.
My brother still lives 5-10 minutes from my Mother. Always has. He’s married with two daughters too. I was out of the house working overseas ( in Amsterdam ) at 17…. and even now, I walk to work in 6 minutes, because the thought of rush hour traffic makes me ill.
I just “went my own way” – always – making my own choices even at the behest of my own family, crossed the world at least 4 times with work that travelled a lot, and have lived in 6 cities internationally.
Strange that. I just “knew”.
Whatever I was going to do… it was not going to be “ordinary”.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.A few years back when I lived in Austin I started dating after finally graduating school with my Master’s degree. I have a degree in electrical engineering and the expectation when I was young was that I would go to college after high school. I had never worked during high school, and was never interested in girls. College was intense and as I got further in my major, I had no time for a relationship anyway, especially in grad school. When I finally graduated with my Master’s I was just stressed out and needed to take time to relax. My first serious relationship happened just after I graduated with my Bachelor’s degree. I wound up working in a Biology lab writing software and building hardware for research instrumentation. One of the perks of the job was a trip to Peru to the Peruvian Amazon to do research in the field. On the expedition we invited two Peruvian natives to help out with the research and work with the field hands (who couldn’t speak english). It was there that I met a girl who I wound up in a relationship with for about 1.5 years. We were in the field for 6 weeks and then the relationship went long distance when I came back to the US. At first things were good… we messed around over skype every day. She was staying in Lima with her sister studying for an english fluency exam so she could come to the US to do a PhD in biology. We talked nightly everyday for about 6 weeks after I came back home. Then, after she took her exam, she went back to Iquitos where her friends and family were. It was like an electric shock hit me… we went from talking every day to maybe once or twice a week. I wasn’t prepared for that or expected it and it burned me badly. I just couldn’t tolerate things the way they were. That relationship slowly died off over time. I’m bipolar and wasn’t diagnosed at the time so that probably contributed.
Fast forward past my Master’s degree. I found a job and moved to Austin, TX. After settling down my drive to find a relationship came back. It’s worth pointing out that I had never lived away from family before, and I had no friends in Austin. I was totally on my own, in a brand new city. I think I was 26 at the time. I mainly used OkCupid and online dating, but a friend had sugggested checking out Meetup.com. I did, and came across a Meetup for singles speed dating. I met a girl, who ironically happened to work at the same company as me. This story gets very f~~~ed up, so I won’t go into full detail here. Anyway, we eventually met up for a full date. The date was uninspiring and not fun. She came off to me as cold and disinterested. Fast forward a few days; I messed up, in a sense. Since we worked at the same company, she must’ve thought it would be a good idea to meet me for lunch or something. One day I walked out of one of the buildings and she was just standing there, with a friend, with this huge smile on her face. I wound up walking right past her while walking between thew buildings on campus. My bad? To me it was just natural, I was legitimately busy but she just blew a gasket. Fast forward a few more weeks to the company annual conference. Keep in mind I was new to the area, had only worked there for 6 months. I was with a group of coworkers and a new friend, and next thing I know there’s my date. I was looking at my phone trying to get the GPS to work so we could find the restaurant we were going to. I guess the phone thing isn’t a deal breaker just for MGTOWs. I look up, she’s walking next to me out of thin air, the next she’s gone. Never even said hello or tried to get my attention. I’d texted her outside of work to say hello. I tried to invite her for drinks only to get ignored. This “relationship” was f~~~ing WEIRD. Completely awkward. Turns out that, she sat on the top floor of the building overlooking the parking lot between the two buildings I worked in. So everytime I walked between buildings (which was frequent back then), she could watch me! I figured that out much later, through coincidence. Anyway, let’s just sum this up: don’t date girls at work, even if you meet them at a random club.
And then there’s just the general crap that comes with online dating. Plenty of girls who are just flaky. Too many ugly woman. I may have been a bit of an incel at the time, but I never felt compelled to push myself to date. I was content, as I am now. Since having gotten laid off from a different job, I feel more interested in getting my career back into a better track. Woman just aren’t that interesting and not worth the aggravation. I’d enjoy having more female friends to meet with occasionally but I feel just fine with the way my life is at the moment and I’m thankful and content with that. So I’ll leave things as is for now and see where life takes me.
Mr. Boats: "'Avoid the reeking herd! Shun the polluted flock! Live like that stoic bird, the eagle of the rock!' You know what that means, son?" -American Splendor
Simple…attachment to external conditions leads to suffering…
A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.
What was the catalyst?
It has been a culmination of things for me. However, quite often I’ve preferred my own company. The job I do is at times quite mentally mind-fking, and I don’t need a woman adding to that.
The tip of the iceberg though, was my ex almost everyday saying she loved me, whilst secretly going off to a brothel to give head, and get fked by randoms, for $$$. After that I was out.
Women can go try locking down someone else. Pump and dump only with me… if that.
I am new here. I would say going my own way because I simply have seen enough of the crap straight guys put up with. It’s wrong, pure and simple. I’m gay so I have no pull toward women to begin with. However, things like f~~ hags treating gay men like playthings rather than other human beings, catching on to the utter incoherence of feminism or its repackaging called “queer theory”, or being told me and/or my husband are bad by default because we’re men pretty much brings home the issue for me.
Anonymous6I am new here. I would say going my own way because I simply have seen enough of the crap straight guys put up with. It’s wrong, pure and simple. I’m gay so I have no pull toward women to begin with. However, things like f~~ hags treating gay men like playthings rather than other human beings, catching on to the utter incoherence of feminism or its repackaging called “queer theory”, or being told me and/or my husband are bad by default because we’re men pretty much brings home the issue for me.
Hey there Mr. Tomdickharry, it’s good to have you here! You are welcome in this place. A good place for you to start would be the “introductions” section. Please feel free to post an introduction so that the other members can get to know you a little better. There are a few other gay members here too. So let me be the first to welcome you here! This is a place for all men who need a place that respects their voices and who are going their own way. By the way I find it sad and not surprising that women would treat gay men like play things, look at how they treat strait men. So we’re brothers in that respect. Welcome again.
I am new here. I would say going my own way because I simply have seen enough of the crap straight guys put up with. It’s wrong, pure and simple. I’m gay so I have no pull toward women to begin with. However, things like f~~ hags treating gay men like playthings rather than other human beings, catching on to the utter incoherence of feminism or its repackaging called “queer theory”, or being told me and/or my husband are bad by default because we’re men pretty much brings home the issue for me.
Welcome aboard buddy. My friend in the south actually taught me quite a bit about women, because the same chicks that would put on a fake personality to get my attention, would tell him who they really were, they figured their nasty secrets were safe with a gay guy, but he got disgusted by it and told me who they really were.
I think a lot of women like to dump their baggage on gay men, and the older ones treat gays like shallow playtoys, rather than human beings with depth.
Anonymous8I don’t think there was a single catalyst which prompted me to go my own way, it was a culmination of a experience & empirical data.
There is one incident which happened when I was quite young which kept me on my toes when dealing with women. When I was in high school one of my first girlfriend’s thought I was losing interest (she was right), so she got one of her friends to call me up and see if I wanted to hook up, now this was before caller ID was commonplace and around the time three-way calls were popular. Well it turns out my then girlfriend was listening in on the call because my caller ID showed that the call originated from her number, anyways I respectfully declined her friend’s offer, proceeded to end that s~~~ shortly thereafter. The deception definitely opened my eyes.
As a kid, when my little sister was a baby, and the crying made my skin crawl. I said to myself as a kid; “I’ll never have kids”
"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain
Bonkers old girlfriend who ghostlighted me hard
I was well on the way towards it anyway but she tipped me over the edge. It was one of those situations where you know the truth deep down but it takes time to actually realise it
I was on a wrestling forum and someone mentioned MGTOW so I checked it out and here I am
Anonymous0I am new here. I would say going my own way because I simply have seen enough of the crap straight guys put up with. It’s wrong, pure and simple. I’m gay so I have no pull toward women to begin with. However, things like f~~ hags treating gay men like playthings rather than other human beings, catching on to the utter incoherence of feminism or its repackaging called “queer theory”, or being told me and/or my husband are bad by default because we’re men pretty much brings home the issue for me.
Being gay won’t save you from a false domestic violence charge(s). You still have to be very careful around bitches. Welcome aboard.
I am new here. I would say going my own way because I simply have seen enough of the crap straight guys put up with. It’s wrong, pure and simple. I’m gay so I have no pull toward women to begin with. However, things like f~~ hags treating gay men like playthings rather than other human beings, catching on to the utter incoherence of feminism or its repackaging called “queer theory”, or being told me and/or my husband are bad by default because we’re men pretty much brings home the issue for me.
The funny thing about MGTOW is that we are all labelled bigoted but we accept all – gay, black, white whatever. It would make the liberal’s head explode but we accept all
Anonymous11Redheads
What Was The Catalyst That Made You Go Your Own Way?
For me, it was a combination of three:
◾The only relations~~~ of my life.
◾Getting to notice that virtually everyone else around me had a similar mentality and general view on life (AKA “crowd mentality”). No one was thinking differently from the other.
◾Getting to witness some so called “expensive queens” on campus throwing their vaginas at a guy they used to reject…after he became rich (I can remember saying to myself: “to hell with bitches. They’re not worth s~~~. I’m just going to focus on MYSELF and work hard to be successful”.)
My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.If I had only listened at 17. At 17 I took an acting class in NYC which was bid deal at the time. I got an audition for “All my children” from that. Didn’t win the part.
The teacher was a mid thirties gay man who told me all I needed to know. I didn’t listen of course and my life spiraled out of control until I learned about the mrm.
He told me that the suburban dream of house and car and wife and kids was a “wet dream”. Boy was he spot on.
Then when I went through my first marriage I realized how the system worked.
Even with money and knowledge of the system I still unltimately failed because our society sends messages to kids that mom is all important.
That’s when I decided to go my own way. Women are not to be trusted and our society revolves around women’s needs.
Then when I saw that women where violent toward children my conversion was complete.
Women are no better than men. The most a women can aspire to is to be like a man: Plato.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Thank you
It wasn’t any single event for me…more or less from my teen age years into my mid-late 20s when I was more interested in dating and relationships, I had a decade of witnessing women acting like c~~~s and sluts, quite a few underwhelming dating experiences, and a few miserable relations~~~s that were always great for a few months til the mask came off then it was like “WTF why am I doing this to myself?”
After you witness or are part of enough bulls~~~ and you get to an age, most likely late 20s to early 30s somewhere where women your age are hitting the wall left and right, it just seems like having nothing to do with them is the way to go. I still have some female friends and get along with women fine, I just don’t deal with their drama and bulls~~~ and the idea of a relationship with one is just a no go for me.
Anonymous6Thank you
You’re welcome, if it’s in order from me. I look forward to reading your introduction. Your post will help those already here but will also help those who may land on the site and read what you’ve written. It sounds like gay men need MGTOW too!
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