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When searching for purpose, you’ll generally come up with an empty feeling, and trying to fulfill that emptiness, with something that benefits the system, and not you.
Exactly. For a long time, I had thought about this issue, and this was the same answer that I eventually came up with.
Take care of your basic needs, and everything else will reveal itself with time.
Yea i learned the hard way. There was a period in my red pill life, where i questioned everything, and wanted to go back to the blue pill life, just so i wouldn’t feel so hollow and alone.
It took a lot of pain and tears, before i came to my senses, and realized my social and biological conditioning was stronger then i had anticipated. It’s something we have to go THROUGH rather than try to avoid. Once you acknowledge that part of your body and mind will always crave something that’s bad for it … you must then learn to accept it, and live with it.
Much like an alcoholic or drug addict, must acknowledge the truth, that a part of them will always crave a substance that is bad for them. Acceptance can be so harsh, but it’s key to understanding what’s causing the emptiness inside, and defeating it in a healthy manner.
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I went back to riding, but on the street instead of on dirt
I still ride. I never stopped. It’s one of the few times I feel really free. I think of nothing else than the road. The journey is always a pleasure, but the destination?
Unknown.
On a cool Sunday morning…. I used to “Pick a direction” and just go. Some of the best times I have ever had. From getting soaked in a rainstorm and stopping at a small town “sidewalk” bar to get dry; to trying to pick up a Lesbian while playing pool in a country pub(I wound up going home with the barmaid that night)
Well anyway this doesn’t have to be “you” just saying it was fun times that made a few friends and a lot of good memories!
Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)
Anonymous42I want to retire in my 40’s or 50’s.
Even if you can’t retire by then at least you won’t be carrying a load with all your years of work plundered behind you with you holding the bill!
The cost of a modern family is far to great for any sane man! The chances dictate a man will be ruined.
Anonymous14The paradigm of the need for a direction in life is a false one that is used as part of the brainwashing so that you serve the system.
This has rung true to me ever since I was a kid, always the rebel…
I play video games, smoke weed, and try not to get too p~~~ed off at watching the world burn due to the will of the Elite. I have no plans set in stone outside of never having kids and never marrying. A very early, yet very modest retirement is in my future, aside from that I enjoy my freedom and free time however I see fit on any given day.
To OP, I am struggling with this daily. I have no advice, but am struggling with being alone and the depression of loss. I am searching for purpose myself
No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.
I started a militia, it gives me purpose.
Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.
To OP, I am struggling with this daily. I have no advice, but am struggling with being alone and the depression of loss. I am searching for purpose myself
Stop searching for purpose. Your purpose is to enjoy your time on this earth. As long as you have health and stability, you will always have something to enjoy, something to look forward to. You may feel down at some points in your life, but time and patience will always solve it.
Formerly MoneyOverBitches
I agree with what the other guys say. Skydive, ski double black diamond runs, commune with nature, read as many books as you can, learn something…anything.
I decided two years ago that I would expand my cooking knowledge and have realized that I can spend the rest of my life doing just that. Over the past year, I’ve learned how to grill/smoke just about any kind of meat. With today’s technology in thermometers, everything I cook kicks ass. Here in Texas, ribs and brisket is what BBQ is all about. I’ve mastered both on a Weber Kettle with some aftermarket accessories.
I suppose my next project is to learn Tex-Mex cooking. I imagine that I can be busy learning how to do that for a pretty good while. Perhaps I’ll take up baking French pastries or Chinese stir fry next. Nonetheless, I can stay busy with just cooking for a pretty long while. However, I have many more varied interests besides cooking.
I’m hearing what Greg Honda is saying about hobbies and the pursuit of materialism. Sure those can take up your time and possibly fatten your wallet, but will those endeavors bear the fruit of purpose? I suppose not. However, until you find a purpose, those activities can burn up the free time and keep your mind occupied. Otherwise, depression can set in.
Every moment that I spend time dwelling on my destructive past keeps me from living in the present. To quote one of my favorite MGTOW’s, Tyler Durden, “This is your life, and it’s ending one minute at a time.” So, the question for me isn’t, “What am I going to do with my life, now that she’s gone?” The question for me is, “What am I NOT going to do?” I have one answer to that already. I’m NOT going back to the plantation to see if the chains still fit. I’m a free man!
I don’t want to tell anyone how to go their own way. But I will share what works for me. Every time I get down on life, I try to find a way to help others. There are numerous opportunities to volunteer at many different levels. Whether at a hospital, homeless shelter, volunteer fire department, or an assisted living unit, there are plenty of things to get involved in.
In my life, I’ve had exposure to all of those venues. I’m a former firefighter in the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex. I lost that job after the divorce due to getting into drugs. I was lucky that I never picked up a felony or misdemeanor. After losing everything to shooting meth into my arm, I spent a year and a half in a homeless shelter. When I found employment, I ended up working at 3 different pediatric hospitals as a tech. When my grandmother was in assisted living, I visited her daily and felt sorry for the residents there. I ended up pulling her out of there and am taking care of her today.
In my future, I can stay busy with cooking, working out, skiing, working as a volunteer firefighter, washing dishes in a homeless shelter a couple nights a month, or visiting a random guy in an old folks home. Washing dishes in a homeless shelter would serve as a reminder as to where I’ve been and not ever go back to the drugs. Working as a volunteer firefighter would give me the rush of fighting structure fires again.
Why not spend one day a week at an assisted living center and play dominos, cards, or chess with a group of guys? It’s not like they ever have anyone come to visit anyway. All they have to look forward to is s~~~ty cafeteria food 3 times a day. Hell, grill up some grub and take it with you. Do you have any idea of what that would mean to an old guy just waiting to die? That one day a week would not suck for him. He would look forward to it every week. We used to have an old sage by the name of Stealthy, Sausage Fingers, Batcave…and a few more handles. He used to feed the homeless and found purpose in that.
Perhaps you could look into volunteer opportunities at your local hospital. Back when I was a tech I remember an older gentleman that came and played board games with the kids in the oncology unit. There were other volunteers present and the walls were see through glass as to protect the kids and himself from any possible accusations. But it meant the world to the kids that someone actually came in to spend time with them. They are sometimes in the unit for months at a time. I never did see many women volunteers there. So much for the more loving, caring gender.
To rehash…I’ve discovered that when I reach out to help others, I feel a little purpose in my life. I then realize that I’m wasting my time with my so-called problems. There are some men out there that are really lonely, hurting, and possibly suicidal. Society doesn’t give a f~~~ about them, will you?
So, jump out of an airplane. I hear it’s the s~~~. Take up surfing, snowboarding, fishing…whatever is your thing. Fight fire, save lives, scale the walls of death. Feel life, embrace the rush. Look around and realize that you don’t have it that bad.
OR
Stay depressed, get married, become a slave, become an alcoholic or drug addict, lose all your material possessions, and hate your life. Those options are all available to you as well. As I said, I don’t want to tell anyone how to go their own way. I just share my own experience, strength, and hope. This is your life and it is ending one minute at a time.
MGtower wrote:
Freedom is not having a bunch of s~~~!I have been able to move everything I own
in one half ton truckload for years now.A&men to ditching old projects and unwanted
junk.Freedom is a minimalist, vagabond lifestyle.
I relate to being needed as a hardwired part
of natural manly life.I believe all men know our value is determined
by others not by ourselves. We are worthless as
selfish human beings but have great value as
selfless giving men.We may determine our own worth by selling
ourselves and we often sell ourselves short
because society tells us how worthless we are.Value is perceived by the beneficiaries of
your skills, services and time of life.
Your customers.Screw society they are no longer my customers
I only trade my natural currency (skills, services and time of life) to other men who appreciate it.
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
I just do what I want to do.
I’m still learning how to relax and enjoy not doing anything. After a lifetime of going b~~~~ to the wall in everything. It’s time to slow down, relax, and enjoy the finite amount of time I have remaining on this planet.I’m doing it solo, so nobody else can take the credit or the blame, for what I do.
There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
Live.
If you don’t know how to live free, you won’t know how to live slave.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
I think that I was in the same boat in that I was searching for a purpose.
I have a child. My child gives me purpose. But sometimes I feel that I’m missing something and I feel that I’m missing out on having a family. I’m not sure if that’s because I was raised and taught that a family is the best way to go or if it’s something biological/genetic.
All I know is that I can’t risk mine and my child’s financial future to today’s typical woman. And I’m specifically referring to divorce rape. I can’t even explain how bad of a loser I would be if I allowed some woman to come into our lives and then bounce out on us at 10 years and financially destroy both of our futures. Women have no issue doing this and no pre nup will protect you from that.
Plus, I’m 40+ years old. I know that all the supposed “good ones” were taken a long time ago and all that is left are the psychos, divorcees, and other undesirables- post wall etc. I know that those “good ones” aren’t actually good, I’m aware of female nature now. I know that marriage is disposable now and that modern women are unlikely to be able to successfully pair bond.
It took me a while to get over that.
Now that I’ve accepted the reality of the world, it’s like I’ve rediscovered freedom. Granted it’s limited in some ways because of my child but during the times that I don’t have her, I am free to do what I want. Back when I was constantly struggling to make a woman happy or dealing with their mood swings, I was so wrapped up with bogus psycho emotional bulls~~~ that I had little time for myself.
Now I have time to read and one of my biggest hobbies is to learn about myself. I am trying to learn how to do everything around my house by myself. I’m also getting to the point where I can travel and see the world.
So that’s it. That’s what I’m doing with my freedom, this is my purpose. I learn as much as I can about life and explore. I gotta say I’m pretty f~~~ing happy with it.
#MANOUT
Honda, the Journey IS the destination. Watch easy rider. Get on your bike and GO!
Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
The list of things you can do with your life is endless and none of those need to involve TUNA.
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Accumultaing wealth once you have enough to be relatively secure and comfortable provides nothing you need something else
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In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Accumultaing wealth once you have enough to be relatively secure and comfortable provides nothing you need something else
Freedom is not having a bunch of s~~~!
Correct- many on zoom have seen how minimal my flat is.
A coupe of toys is good though, if I lived in the countryside I would definately have something with tracks and a snow mobile and a land rover defender and then a golf r for the street.
But you dont need to buy loads of furniture, books, records etc and all that s~~~ tuna fill house sup with
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when I was in my early 20s, and the time came that I had to make some decisions about what to do with my life re: education/occupation, I reasoned that I wanted to try to do something that when I was an old man looking back on my life, I would not feel that I had wasted it. I didn’t have much insight into this, other than that I wanted to something for an occupation that mattered somehow.
I’ve done that now and am in my 50s. It seems to have gone by fast. But I am to a place financially where I can start to slow down a little and spend some time on other things. I’m free of child support or alimony payments, and don’t have expensive tastes in hobbies. As I look around for what to do with this time, I find myself still wanting to do something that a few more decades from now, I won’t look back on and regret.
Looking at some people much further along than me, with much less time and opportunity left, I notice that many of them regret things that they didn’t try more than they regret things that they tried and didn’t like, or things that they attempted but that didn’t work out. Their biggest regrets seem to be the things they never attempted.
So, I make my list that includes some travel, some charity work, some hobbies, some learning outside my own occupation, some new skills, some new connections with people… As I imagine myself in an ICU somewhere decades from now looking back on all this and (hopefully) thinking I put the time to good use. In fact, I think under the dates on my headstone someday, I’d like to have the phrase, “He didn’t waste any of it”.
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Anonymous0Greg! I’m surprised
When you came to the USA to visit with the boys down South; you made quite an impact on Blacque Jacques and me. Maybe what you feel now is a “let down” and an “is that all there is” feeling. Maybe a feeling of “you want to do more but don’t know how”Here is a suggestion and one that has been on my mind as well:
IDEA:
As a long term project, meet face to face with men in your local area and encourage others to do the same all over the UK. No group knows more than one of the other groups. That way, in time, there will be a backup “underground” and if and when “Gaggle” pulls the plug, we will still have communications. This was driven home recently when KEYMASTER had to deal with a corrupted file.
This idea is not one for everyday use but only to be used as a last resort. PM me if you want to talk more about this.- AuthorPosts
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