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What happens around alt-right, and what I see here, is the desire to be tolerant, if not supportive, of authoritarian ideologies, that push for uniformity, and advancement of groups that share a common attribute. Of what gain is this? To say you want, “White Supremacy”, and so on, and speak of how nationalism is one’s salvation, exactly how does this benefit? There is even a push for worship of strong leaders, and seeing this happens to be what matters. A lot of this is done in the name of opposing things.
So, if you go your own way, what advantage is there in this? One example, I can give here, done by strong, nationalistic, and authoritarian states, is the bachelor tax:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_taxSocieties driven by strong authoritarian views, will demand that the enter citizenship comply in all things, particularly those who have an ethnic basis to them. You get taxed if you don’t breed. And that benefits MGTOW how?
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
It’s simply a response to how far left everything has gotten. I am not in favor of an authoritarian regime. I will admit that I am frustrated at how much the government has overreached its authority.
I did not vote for Trump to be King. If he does not deliver on his promises, I am ready to vote in someone else.
Anonymous14What happens around alt-right, and what I see here, is the desire to be tolerant, if not supportive, of authoritarian ideologies, that push for uniformity, and advancement of groups that share a common attribute. Of what gain is this? To say you want, “White Supremacy”, and so on, and speak of how nationalism is one’s salvation, exactly how does this benefit?
Um are you equating Alt-Right with far Right? I am a far Right leaning Libertarian. We are as far removed from wanting Authoritarianism as it gets. White Supremacy? Were do you see that advocated here? Who the f~~~ are you? You are playing the same old lump them all into one group bulls~~~ again that the Left always plays… It’s getting tired as f~~~.
Know what I want and what most on the far Right want? The smallest Government possible. Now, mind you, Trump and the Republicans in office will never do it, because this is all a giant s~~~ show at this point. You got what you want, HUGE F~~~ING GOVERMENT! How is that working out for ya? Because Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, just about everyone in D.C., whatever, they are giving it to ya.
The amount of corruption and harm a system can have and dish out will be EQUAL TO THE SIZE OF THE SYSTEM. Most people live in Fantasyland and will never understand this though…Socialism, if that is what you prefer can be accommodated OUTSIDE of the confines of Government. You find a cause, and you and like minded people VOLUNTARILY work together towards whatever it is you wish to accomplish. A soon as you get the Government involved it will TURN TO F~~~ING S~~~. Money will not go to where you want it to go, in fact, it will often go to KILLING PEOPLE IN LANDS YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE and towards the SUBSIDIZATION OF CRONY SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS THAT WILL NEVER BENIFIT YOUR NOR THOSE AROUND YOU.
Feel free to continue living in Fantasyland though, I am sure if you just get the right guy in there, like Obama, oh, wait…
Know what I want and what most on the far Right want? The smallest Government possible. Now, mind you, Trump and the Republicans in office will never do it, because this is all a giant s~~~ show at this point.
Trump better show some progress at draining the swamp like he promised or my vote is going elsewhere in 2020.
I personally aline politically with pretty much everything Ben Shapiro says honestly. I have no interest in a big government or authoritarianism.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
To say you want, “White Supremacy”,
WHO SAID THAT ? You are reffering to the thread i did on jesse owens
WHAT HAVE YOU GOT AGAINST JESSE OWENS BEEN TREATED WELL BY HITLER .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Anonymous14WW2 Germany was not nearly as racist as it is made out to be, that is for sure. They were allied with Iraq, and Himmler was pretty much writing love letters to Palestine… And you can find pictures of Black Muslims right in there with the Germans laughing it up and having a good old time. And the Jews? Well, they were White just like the Germans… No racism going on there, that was about something else.
As far as Authoritarianism being pushed here along the lines of Germany under Hitler or something… That ain’t happening. Nobody here has ever advocated for something like Hitler or WW2 Germany that I know of.
Thank you, come again.
WW2 Germany was not nearly as racist as it is made out to be, that is for sure. Himmler was nearly writing love letters to Palestine… And you can find pictures of Black Muslims right in there with the Germans laughing it up and having a good old time. And the Jews? Well, they were White just like the Germans… No racism going on there, that was about something else.
As far as Authoritarianism being pushed here in regards to Germany or something… That ain’t happening. Nobody here has ever advocated for something like Hitler or Germany here that I know of.
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
I class myself as right of center.
But I want small government. Not authoratian government.
That is the tool of the left.People should be trusted to take care of themselves.
Government merely sits at the back SERVING the people.The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius
What happens around alt-right, and what I see here, is the desire to be tolerant, if not supportive, of authoritarian ideologies, that push for uniformity, and advancement of groups that share a common attribute. Of what gain is this? To say you want, “White Supremacy”, and so on, and speak of how nationalism is one’s salvation, exactly how does this benefit? There is even a push for worship of strong leaders, and seeing this happens to be what matters. A lot of this is done in the name of opposing things.
So, if you go your own way, what advantage is there in this? One example, I can give here, done by strong, nationalistic, and authoritarian states, is the bachelor tax:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_taxSocieties driven by strong authoritarian views, will demand that the enter citizenship comply in all things, particularly those who have an ethnic basis to them. You get taxed if you don’t breed. And that benefits MGTOW how?
It has nothing to do with supporting authoritarian principles, moreso that “women in charge” has been a colossal failure. We recognize that. We recognize that there’s a lot of pandering done to “minorities” and other ethnic and gender groups which is out and out discrimination. Women by and large are mental midgets.
Their ideas ruin everything. Because everything they think up is done with the “feelz”. Companies having HR departments is a prime example. Requiring interviews for “minority candidates” and “male quotas” and other bulls~~~ has watered down the hiring process. Pandering to groups has de-centivized people to strive for a better life. But rather than people accept responsibility, everything is run on the basis of “it’s not their fault, they’re just a victim.”
As for me personally? Yes, I am a white nationalist. And why shouldn’t I be with La Raza, Black Panther/Antifa, and other hate groups running around not only trying to control everything, but claiming some war against the “white man”?
Going my own way includes starving the system that vilifies me for simply existing. Even though my ancestors roamed freely on this land (The US) well before the Spaniards, the Italians, and the rest of Europe came cruising through the coastline. The bachelor tax will be one of many ways the system will try to penalize you for your non participation. Nothing about that is supported by MGTOW.
To say you want, “White Supremacy”, and so on, and speak of how nationalism is one’s salvation, exactly how does this benefit? [etecetra]
This is an attempt to link MGTOW to extremism.
A recent post by the same person:
When I had been doing Occupy awhile …
Busted.
To say you want, “White Supremacy”, and so on, and speak of how nationalism is one’s salvation, exactly how does this benefit? [etecetra]
This is an attempt to link MGTOW to extremism.
A recent post by the same person:
When I had been doing Occupy awhile …
Busted.
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
I couldn’t care less.
Trump? F~~~ him, Putin f~~~ him.
I only want to see a nuke go off, I want ww3, I don’t care who start it, I just want it, full war, give them everything you got guys.
I have never voted and I never will.
Only person I wold vote is me, I wold whipe out 90% of the planet, (me included), WHY? BECOME WE F~~~ING EARNED IT.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Of what gain is this? To say you want, “White Supremacy”, and so on, and speak of how nationalism is one’s salvation, exactly how does this benefit?
Well this really depends on the individual mgtow as some support bulls~~~ and others don’t.
For me personally i am a libertarian in most areas outside of women’s rights. I am against government control and promote individual liberty and anything against it is an infringement on rights thereby being a crime.
Having seperate opinions is the nature of mgtow thereby some mgtow’s will believe in retarded s~~~ while others won’t.
Well, they were White just like the Germans… No racism going on there, that was about something else.
The only groups Nazis ever targeted (no gas chamber bulls~~~ and on the basis of race) was Jews.
If the Nazis won the war it they would not gone down to Puerto Rico to kill the spics or even to kill all the Jews. If the Nazis were that concerned they would have invaded Spain with its mongrel history and not sent troops in as support.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
I couldn’t care less.
Trump? F~~~ him, Putin f~~~ him.
I only want to see a nuke go off, I want ww3, I don’t care who start it, I just want it, full war, give them everything you got guys.
I have never voted and I never will.
Only person I wold vote is me, I wold whipe out 90% of the planet, (me included), WHY? BECOME WE F~~~ING EARNED IT.
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
What happens around alt-right, and what I see here, is the desire to be tolerant, if not supportive, of authoritarian ideologies, that push for uniformity, and advancement of groups that share a common attribute. Of what gain is this? To say you want, “White Supremacy”, and so on, and speak of how nationalism is one’s salvation, exactly how does this benefit? There is even a push for worship of strong leaders, and seeing this happens to be what matters. A lot of this is done in the name of opposing things.
So, if you go your own way, what advantage is there in this? One example, I can give here, done by strong, nationalistic, and authoritarian states, is the bachelor tax:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_taxSocieties driven by strong authoritarian views, will demand that the enter citizenship comply in all things, particularly those who have an ethnic basis to them. You get taxed if you don’t breed. And that benefits MGTOW how?
I don’t understand what you’re asking.
What are you asking?
I did not vote for Trump to be King. If he does not deliver on his promises, I am ready to vote in someone else.
I voted for Trump to be King. That’s the only way he can get done what he campaigned. So far, he refuses to do so. He is acting more like all the other presidents than the King he was voted to be. I am not sure what he has planned, but the results of his presidency so far look to be very counter productive to his platform.
What’s wrong with having a King? Just because school taught us democracy is great, doesn’t mean democracy is great. School also taught us feminism is great. I’ll take a benevolent King over a tyrannical democracy. Democracy is constant instability while at least a King would be somewhat consistent. Why should we want tyranny just because it’s democratic? No one seems to be asking that question in our nation.
Anonymous42I’ve been pushed off the political playing field when I was lawfully ordered to CEASE AND DESIST! I hope the rest of this country f~~~ing dies!
I’m not right or left! I’M UNDER THE WHOLE GODDAMNED MESS!
America is %100 F~~~ING BULLS~~~! ONLY TYRANNY THRIVES!
I think this clown is trying to trigger people.
Where the hell did he/she get the idea that MGTOW members advocate white supremacy?
That’s a red herring.
I can’t think of anyone, anywhere that actually advocates white supremacy.I have seen plenty of public examples of jewish, black and, specifically, Mexican supremacy over whites. No one in MGTOW claims this, of course.
I haven’t seen or heard any valid reasons or evidence to support this, though.
There’s only one authority on earth.
But saying that, I’m with Sandals, if you study history you had more freedom under the old monarchies. You didnt have all the paraphernalia of this bulls~~~ bureaucracy world. You could carry weapons freely, borders were open or nonexistent. Politeness was confirmed by the fact that you could split in two anyone who truly offended you and took your own justice. If you were adventurous and wished to further yourself, you had to be prepared to put yourself at great risk. If you couldn’t swing a sword well there was always exploration, or heading out into the parts of the map that were blank. Yes the peasants were merely existing. The blue haired weakling assholes that call the shots today behind the threat of state violence would be yoked to a f~~~ing plow and cleaning the castle privy under feudalism. But a brave and smart man of any background could make his name and fortune by having mastered being good at being a man.
Democracy has neutered and yoked EVERYONE, the mad and the brave just the same as the natural serfs – the manginas and feminists. Democracy is almost as evil as pure communism. The state is king. The KING should be king, and if he doesn’t inspire, then he goes and a true King is found among the great men who have earned their status by honour, courage, wisdom.
It’s simply a response to how far left everything has gotten. I am not in favor of an authoritarian regime. I will admit that I am frustrated at how much the government has overreached its authority.
I did not vote for Trump to be King. If he does not deliver on his promises, I am ready to vote in someone else.
What can happen, is that, in response to one faction, one can fight them to an extent that they become like them. You see the MRA realm having that side look like feminists.
What I also see what has been around the non-mainstream right, the general realm of the alternative right (alt-right), is a mix of individuals outside the mainstream, some libertarian and anarcho-capitalists, but also reactionary paleo-conservatives and also tradcons. You had the likes of Spencer going off on this also. With all this, and a seeking to fight Progressives, feminists, and SJWs, is a play for this group by far right individuals who pitch things like ethno-nationalism, and the fictional “white nation” as if having a nation be all white means it will have unity.
What happens is, an “fight at all costs”, ends up costing everything, and doesn’t really gain things. For myself, my response hasn’t been trying to band together, but try to get my life in order and deal with situation, and make peace where I can.
Um are you equating Alt-Right with far Right? I am a far Right leaning Libertarian. We are as far removed from wanting Authoritarianism as it gets. White Supremacy? Were do you see that advocated here? Who the f~~~ are you? You are playing the same old lump them all into one group bulls~~~ again that the Left always plays… It’s getting tired as f~~~.
Here is a thing. When you refuse to have a basket to put deplorables into, you get lumped that way. There is no “we” here at all. If Alt-Right were non-mainstream right. But, because there is no separation, you get lumped in with Spenser, who happens to be a white nationalist and pushes that. Alt-Right is what he latched onto. The manosphere is such that it will be played for.
Know what I want and what most on the far Right want? The smallest Government possible. Now, mind you, Trump and the Republicans in office will never do it, because this is all a giant s~~~ show at this point. You got what you want, HUGE F~~~ING GOVERMENT! How is that working out for ya? Because Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, just about everyone in D.C., whatever, they are giving it to ya.
What you wrote depends on a certain view that isn’t what is agreed to. It presumes that going to the far right, automatically presumes smaller government. It doesn’t presume smaller government. You have far right regimes in the past, which happened to of be extremely authoritarian. Libertarian approach is neither left, nor right, but involves being center on smaller government and more freedom.
The amount of corruption and harm a system can have and dish out will be EQUAL TO THE SIZE OF THE SYSTEM. Most people live in Fantasyland and will never understand this though…Socialism, if that is what you prefer can be accommodated OUTSIDE of the confines of Government. You find a cause, and you and like minded people VOLUNTARILY work together towards whatever it is you wish to accomplish. A soon as you get the Government involved it will TURN TO F~~~ING S~~~. Money will not go to where you want it to go, in fact, it will often go to KILLING PEOPLE IN LANDS YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE and towards the SUBSIDIZATION OF CRONY SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS THAT WILL NEVER BENIFIT YOUR NOR THOSE AROUND YOU.
Feel free to continue living in Fantasyland though, I am sure if you just get the right guy in there, like Obama, oh, wait…
That is one theory on things, or one approach. It isn’t what fits Trump, or the Breitbart political wing. It is bargaining libertarians think they can do with some faction, to affect change. I don’t think it would work well, and most people want security over freedom, so they allow an eating away at the margins.
To say you want, “White Supremacy”, and so on, and speak of how nationalism is one’s salvation, exactly how does this benefit? [etecetra]
This is an attempt to link MGTOW to extremism.
A recent post by the same person:
When I had been doing Occupy awhile …
Busted.
Go on record and say you are opposed to it. Say how you are opposed to white nationalism, fascism, communism, and any other strong leader despotic systems out there. You can. MGTOW gets linked when such goes off, and there is group think, and such a focus on opposing things, that other things slip by.
In regards to Occupy, and saying I am “busted”, you have no clue what I was doing with Occupy, or how I was involved, or that I had done some Ron Paul grassroots stuff prior. Do you even know what Anonymous99 was? It was an attempt to protest and have the fed dismantled. It was a cry against multinational corporations and that corrupting influence. That was part of Occupy I got involved with, and since I wasn’t able to work due to back issues (I wasn’t employable). I was there, and I observed, and tried to shape things. A number of months in, I got fed up of the whole thing, and I left. It ended up being a giant camp out with health problems, that brought out the dregs, and not much else. I did get to see the original Occupy Wall Street bit, before it closed down, and even got some anarchist literature there. I consider activism utter and complete BS by seeing what was there. I wrote what I wrote in another thread, to explain what I saw. I have experience being near that. And you have what? You sit in your chair all day, on the net, belching up brainfarts you have, with no ties anywhere?
I voted for Trump to be King. That’s the only way he can get done what he campaigned. So far, he refuses to do so. He is acting more like all the other presidents than the King he was voted to be. I am not sure what he has planned, but the results of his presidency so far look to be very counter productive to his platform.
What’s wrong with having a King? Just because school taught us democracy is great, doesn’t mean democracy is great. School also taught us feminism is great. I’ll take a benevolent King over a tyrannical democracy. Democracy is constant instability while at least a King would be somewhat consistent. Why should we want tyranny just because it’s democratic? No one seems to be asking that question in our nation.
Good luck finding a benevolent King. What will happen is that you will get a King, and he will then go off and impose decrees you must obey or face severe consequences. Do you want that? Why questions do get asked, is everyone feels a need to compromise, and goes for the lesser evil. That is why.
I think this clown is trying to trigger people.
Where the hell did he/she get the idea that MGTOW members advocate white supremacy?
That’s a red herring.
I can’t think of anyone, anywhere that actually advocates white supremacy.I have seen plenty of public examples of jewish, black and, specifically, Mexican supremacy over whites. No one in MGTOW claims this, of course.
I haven’t seen or heard any valid reasons or evidence to support this, though.
White supremacy is just one of many. I listed it as an example. When you see someone advocating hours be spent on trying to improve one’s perception of Hitler, for example, it is getting there. When you hear screaming about Muslims, it is getting there. There are those pitching a faux system, and trying to enlist others into systems for some end, then this is what I am talking about. It all starts with seeing oneself as a victim, and then demanding “justice” to offset things. End result is a push for those you align with to get power. It happens here. It is why feminism is a monster, as it is now. It doesn’t know when to stop. Seeing themselves as forever victims, they keep playing the victim card, and never hit a place where there is a level playing field. Life sucks, and is never level.
So, I posted a general message. I am glad you see here there is no white supremacy, or anything else, and that you aren’t to be duped by ideological systems, and one’s race, religion, or ethnic background doesn’t matter. For example, you have no problem with someone being Muslim here, right? How about a Mexican who goes MGTOW? Or, are they seen as a threat, and you feel a need to cluster with those who have a similar background or political view?
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