What is the point of trying to be a rights activist?

[AttonParticipant]

Snake wrote:

It is hard to get men to come together, it takes a leader. Leaders in this day and age get a bullet in the head, this is why the movement must be leaderless resistance. Leaderless resistance has been an effective strategy by covert ops. An ideology. A lot of men come to MGTOW because “women suck” but they have not realized how deep the rabbit hole goes. The system is way more deadly than just women. Men are so dependent on the system, asking even many self-proclaimed MGTOW to leave it is asking too much out of them.

The system is too strong at the moment to make any real changes. The only option I see and other men have seen(I did not come up with this on my own, this is from reading other activists) is to drain the system. As Arnold said in Predator “if it bleeds, we can kill it”. The prison industrial complex and the military industrial complex is making money off of men as cattle and cannon fodder. MGTOW is essentially an MRA strategy.

Here in this forum men are together in a space of there own, so I think we already have that. Quite frankly we can get rid of the system and or change it. Take one look at the homosexual agenda, a tiny minority who are slowing getting whatever the f~~~ they want. They where loud as s~~~ and took the forum by force until they where the only voice. Sorry but it actually might be possible to change some of the things in the “system” I really do think that change starts here and has being driven by MGTOW. I think with a little bit of fury and determination it actually might be possible maybe unf~~~ the world for men. Because so far the forum is dominated by feminists and there is a serious lack of MGTOW men calling bulls~~~.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Atton wrote:

Snake wrote:

It is hard to get men to come together, it takes a leader. Leaders in this day and age get a bullet in the head, this is why the movement must be leaderless resistance. Leaderless resistance has been an effective strategy by covert ops. An ideology. A lot of men come to MGTOW because “women suck” but they have not realized how deep the rabbit hole goes. The system is way more deadly than just women. Men are so dependent on the system, asking even many self-proclaimed MGTOW to leave it is asking too much out of them. The system is too strong at the moment to make any real changes. The only option I see and other men have seen(I did not come up with this on my own, this is from reading other activists) is to drain the system. As Arnold said in Predator “if it bleeds, we can kill it”. The prison industrial complex and the military industrial complex is making money off of men as cattle and cannon fodder. MGTOW is essentially an MRA strategy.

Here in this forum men are together in a space of there own, so I think we already have that. Quite frankly we can get rid of the system and or change it. Take one look at the homosexual agenda, a tiny minority who are slowing getting whatever the f~~~ they want. They where loud as s~~~ and took the forum by force until they where the only voice. Sorry but it actually might be possible to change some of the things in the “system” I really do think that change starts here and has being driven by MGTOW. I think with a little bit of fury and determination it actually might be possible maybe unf~~~ the world for men. Because so far the forum is dominated by feminists and there is a serious lack of MGTOW men calling bulls~~~.

The entire system is not for you personal, and not for anyone (outside of those who game it to their end).  It consists of a lot of groups that want to screw you for your own good.  Your only option is to look after yourself and get some allies and strengthen yourself to say.  What you are discussing looks like what MRM is trying to do., and they have little luck.

I am curious what your gameplay would be to get a bunch of MGTOW to work together to “unf~~~ the world for men”.  Please lay out a strategy, and the desired out come.  Minus this, it looks like a belling the cat to me.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[AttonParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I am curious what your gameplay would be to get a bunch of MGTOW to work together to “unf~~~ the world for men”. Please lay out a strategy, and the desired out come. Minus this, it looks like a belling the cat to me.

Well ok if you want a plan then I have one, its not perfect but I’ll try.

1. Increasing the number of men who are exposed to MGTOW ideas, we could do this through speaking more clearly and simply on the issues men face. Like the divorce rates and the fact that men be non lube in divorce court. We could highlight these issues and bring up awareness, all of the men on this forum know about these issues and live better lives because of it.

2. Being more vocal currently feminists rule the forum, they are the only perspective that has a voice in places like university’s.

Pointing out things like UVA, might actually force people to give two f~~~s about innocent before proven guilty.

3. Supporting the development of technology’s like, the artificial womb and birth control for men.
The artificial womb will disconnect women’s power over reproduction permanently. If a man wants a child but he doesn’t want to have to deal with women he just does not have too. Not to mention that this would make the lives of literally everyone better forever. However this would more likely than not be opposed by quite a few women, too be quite frank MGTOW are going to need to be a part of the group of people screaming in support of it. We might not be at the stage where this technology is real. However even a few hundred people who believe in these things could make a difference. Considering the fact that marriage is on the down fall and men still make up a lot of the work force. They are going to be left with a lot of cash in some cases and the possibility exists to donate to institutions that develop these technologies. If more men included in there last will and testament that there assets go to these institutions, you are really going to be talking about a lot of money and only so much needs to be done to develop this technology. Even if that is too much simply writing letters of support could give the people making these things a reason to do it. Standing behind these people gives them a better chance of getting this done and we can and should.

These are just really my ideas and I really do not think they are that impossible.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Solid SnakeParticipant 255]

Depends on your form of activism, Australian trade unions have won a lot of good employment conditions for every Australian worker, which involved years of downing tools, getting out on the streets, punching on with police and being beaten and put in jail for the priveledges we enjoy today as employees in Australia.

It all depends on your message and your supporter base, some Australian trade unions I wouldn’t dare f~~~ with because they would put you in the ground and have millions of $$$ paid from their members.

A few months ago they pulled in a 50,000 strong march consisting of tradesmen in Melbourne, closing down part of the city and construction for the day.

Big red here, she just has signs, words, rude language and a small supporter base.

Trade unions fought for man, woman and child, not like feminists who are just interested in their own gender and f~~~ everyone else.

[ByronParticipant 465]

Here we go again. Does she realize how self-contradictory she is on so many levels. I bet she doesn’t. Even the basic fact that she told them to “shut the f~~~ up” 100 times while simultaneously saying she wants to work together with them is a huge contradiction in itself. Shut the f~~~ up does not go well with “working together”.

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

Aha! The Big Red. I have a lot of opinions about her but I’ll keep them to myself and answer the question at hand.
Q: What is the point of trying to be a rights activist?
A: There’s no point. You may think you’re making the world a better place for future generation of men, but all you’re doing is moistening the feminists’ pussies whenever you verbally insult them. In the day, they argue with you, come night, and they finger themselves to sleep. Please don’t give them that pleasure.
The MGTOW doesn’t need be to spread, either men will mend their ways or they will perish. We don’t owe anyone anything. Do your own thing. Haven’t you wasted enough time on women to last eons?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I am on here, and also doing a YouTube channel, and am better at that. I am willing to network with other men, and form a network of mutual support to help them go their own way.  I am NOT going to get in the face of a feminist and argue, nor support their gynocentric view of the universe and have things align.  I am not going to do what everyone else is doing. I am going to get my own stuff together.  I am not at war with women, just walking away from any system that is gynocentric and any ideology that destroys men to serve its own end.

The reality is I have very little power now.  I only have power over myself.  I realize how little power I have over things, and am working to get logs out of my eyes. I will hold to the core that individuals need to make choices with their lives, and work toward their own benefit, and not be enslaved.

Personally, there is no way I can support any technology as a political tool, just use it if it works for me.  I also, on a personal level, stand on my boundaries and gather resources.  I am not going to try to change the world, just get my stuff together, and try to help those I know who I feel I can connect with.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Byron wrote:

Here we go again. Does she realize how self-contradictory she is on so many levels. I bet she doesn’t. Even the basic fact that she told them to “shut the f~~~ up” 100 times while simultaneously saying she wants to work together with them is a huge contradiction in itself. Shut the f~~~ up does not go well with “working together”.

She was playing the alpha card, and telling the men to get in line behind her.  Her “working together” is “support my agenda and follow me”.  That is her attempt to make all the men followers to what she sees as an alpha status.  It is “work together” as in “be subservient to me”.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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