What is the point of living when you're unhappy?

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Banks Control The World wrote:

Long time friends simply hating Trump so much dropped me. Especially when I said that I don’t like Hillary and even showed articles why. Those friends all rejected me, because I want to protect them…
If long time friends who know that I am no threat to them or the world, they can’t get along with me… a white male. All because I don’t like Hillary or because I like Trump.

Good grief, man, you are not the problem. They are! You told them what they did not want to hear. Too bad. That is THEIR problem, and you don’t need to blame yourself for their behavior.

Here are some books that might help explain how to approach life. You can find used copies on Amazon.com.

De Mello, Anthony
Rediscovering Life: Awaken to Reality

De Mello, Anthony
Awareness:vThe Perils and Opportunities of Reality

Marguerite and Willard Beecher
Beyond Success and Failure: Ways to Self-Reliance and Maturity

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Yes life sucks! And we all must suffer some form of misery or another. But do you know what keeps me going? the knowledge that every day I’m alive and breathing really REALLY annoys and p~~~es off other people who wish I would just die! But everyday I get up and disappoint them—and that makes me feel all warm inside.

[ZoidbergParticipant 965]

Screw happiness. Happiness is a fantasy, like Santa Claus, the easter bunny, a woman’s love for a man… There is nothing to get, and there is nowhere to go. No wonder running there to get it wears you out. I’d rather have equanimity than this bulls~~~ called happiness.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

My answer to people who ask how my day is going. “Upright and breathing!” Always with a smile. I’m in constant pain, sometimes dull and low and other times searing.

You can choose to let your circumstances get you down, or you choose to be happy with the bare minimum of “alive”. For me anywhere in between is enough. I’ve considered opting out, but always for the wrong reason.

I didn’t see mention of being wheelchairbound, but even if you are research the nearest park that is accessible. Get some time in the outdoors. Our lives don’t matter to the World a whole hell of a lot, but they are the one opportunity that we get.

I hope you can get through this and find a positive purpose. It’s a challenge every day, even if only to give a big “F~~~ YOU!” to the things that try to hold you back.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[WongataaParticipant 25]

First and foremost happiness is a choice. How we process our reality does more to shape how we feel than what actually happens. Keep things in perspective, that is probably the most crucial thing. Realize that even with all of your problems there are literally thousands if not millions of people who would love to trade places with you right now. No things aren’t perfect. They never will be. As so many others have pointed out, find something that you enjoy doing and do it. Setting goals and accomplishing them is a great way to build your self esteem and sense of self worth. As for your “friends”, anyone who rejects you because you don’t echo their beleifs isn’t a friend and you shouldn’t mourn their loss. Find those people who truly care about you. There most likely won’t be many. When you find them, nurture those relationships. Just remember mankind has to suffer to appreciate the joy in life. So your pain enables you to enjoy life with a depth that many of us will never be able to grasp because we don’t have your experience. Keep your head up. Nothing lasts forever. Not the good times, and not the bad times.

[The Missing ManSpectator 342]

Get some St. John’s Wort, take, well I take 2 pills of it a day, started it about 2 weeks ago, my mood is finally picking up.

Though if you are really are that down, ask an actual professional that has some clue about brain chemistry and the medicine’s chemistry.

[GrumpyParticipant]

I think the point is to just LIVE. Be there for it.
You’re alive now, enjoy it, savour it, live it for YOU.

My ex wives purpose, according to her words and actions, is to make everyone else around her as miserable a hell so she can enjoy it.
F~~~ her and anyone like her, I find humour when she fails to make someone miserable, that humour allows me to enjoy this freak show called life more.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[,Participant 1301]

Banks Control The World wrote:

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Banks Control The World wrote:

Mr.Kraft wrote:

You can’t be unhappy when you live for yourself.

If you are unhappy then you are not living for yourself.

Find out why you are not living for yourself and start living for yourself.

You will become happy.

Problem solved.

You are welcome.

It makes sense.

It’s hard for me.
I just see no point in living unless we can focus on America and fix it first. Then when America is stable ….
… My mom died in 2013 and my life has been a train wreck since. I take that back… f’ing up my back in a car wreck duringfreshman year of college was the real beginning of the train wreck that is my wonderful life.

Life is hard in ways. Its short enough to not accelerate demise. And it is “oh so very sweet” to paraphrase a certain vocalist.

I am not at all qualified to answer this question in a psychoanalytic manner. But, It is a very serious question and topic. Usually a plea for assistance and this is about all I can offer.

By asking here, and in this manner the conclusion that:
“there is no point” > can always be proven FALSE. An it should always be proven FALSE and be proven undesirable.

Camus wrote about this in The Myth of Sisyphus.
I’d suggest a read of his biography, then read The Myth.

George Carlin contemplated the topic, and as Camus, Embraced the Absurd.
Made a living out of it too.

I have contemplated it also. Reasoned it, planned it and ultimately Rejected it all BEFORE I got hit with the truly worse events in my life.
I did survive. I am stronger. And, I really am having enjoyment in everything: the good the bad and the unexpected.

I’ve seen what it does to survivors. Like a flaming chainsaw up their anus; no one deserves that. They are hurt beyond all measure. Scarred for the rest of their life.

I’ve lost men I love. Seen men’s families forever with grief.

Life and assholes deal us blows and 80% is just luck of the draw. We as humans and male are especially resilient creatures. Sometimes there is No Sweeter Revenge than to live happy right in front of the assholes that tried to grind us into the dirt. ahhh. “Take THAT Universe!”

Hitman wrote:

be happy.
you CHOOSE to be happy each morning when you wake up.
happiness is an art.
read the art of happiness by the Dalai Lama .
please don’t wait to be happy.
find what you like to do,
then do it.

I agree.
I know it sounds cheesy and adolescent when you want to resist, but a college professor told our class something that let me reject suicidal thoughts. It was lost for years to me and came back just in time.
To set the sceen:
This guy was the ugliest man I had ever met.
5 ft tall, 4 ft around, square head, one loooong eyebrow, smoked bigass cigars and looked like a Dick Tracey villain from the 1930’s. I mean (to me) this guy had to have had a miserable existence all his life. He instructed Mathematics and Logic. A traditional logic summary of existance.

“IF it feels good to be happy:
THEN Be Happy”

This is very powerful. Its not trite. Its deep and life changing.
Do not be unhappy. Do not accept unhappy.
Find happiness, make happiness, move to happiness. Alter your environment best you can, alter your point of view, alter your evaluations, your habits your expectations.

First, DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO BRING HAPPINESS FROM WITHIN YOU. (within the law and with goodness) its not something you can Velcro onto your shirt sleeve. No external force will bring it to you.
One area then another. It may, with practice, bring out happiness into everything that comes along in life to you.

I hope and pray it does.

with joy/without hate

[LookAfter#1Participant 352]

What is the point of living when you’re unhappy?

Because nothing cant be solved and whats the worst that can happen.
I had a relative suffer from depression, I could never understand why as we have it pretty good compared to people in other parts of the world. We dont have to damage our health by having to work 12 hours a day down a sulphur mine with zero safety for $10 a day http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12301421

[Freeman98Participant 119]

This is why I am falling more and more in love with objectivism which preaches against self sacrifice and is solely based on selfishness in a very good way. Ayn Rand was a genius. She taught that the pursuit of happiness is the sole reason for life. Very much against the grain of what is taught today in society.

[Anonymous 0]

Freeman98 wrote:

This is why I am falling more and more in love with objectivism which preaches against self sacrifice and is solely based on selfishness in a very good way. Ayn Rand was a genius. She taught that the pursuit of happiness is the sole reason for life. Very much against the grain of what is taught today in society.

Yeah, I love Objectivism. I want to read up more on it.

Here’s a short definition that I kind of use for now:

Each individual is an end in himself, not a means to an end for others. This means that I exist for my own sake, free from coercion by others, neither sacrificing myself to others nor sacrificing others to myself. The pursuit of my own rational self-interest and happiness is the highest moral purpose of my life.

There’s nothing in that definition about needing someone else to complete me. I’m already complete.

If I can work out a trade or exchange with another man or woman, that’s fine. But it has to be on equal terms. I’m not going to play some pre-determined, cookie-cutter role as a useful tool or accessory or beast of burden in someone else’s life, nor do I expect a woman to be an accessory in my life. I negotiate on the basis of my own interests (and I expect the other person to do the same), and then I walk away and go my separate way.

In response to the OP:

Hey crw,

If you’re still down in the dumps, check out the following post. It might help: /forums/topic/wanna-hear-a-story-single-mommy-and-years-of-hell/#post-377237

Maybe there’s something in there you can use.

[Anonymous 0]

I suppose I would start by asking what is the point in not living when your unhappy? The alternative to the one known life you have is not existing. Is there anything else after or that people come from into this life? It is all an unknown. What ever you believe in spiritually can serve as a guide here or if you are not spiritual then based on the known all that is after and before life is nothing. Being either happy or unhappy is logically better than not being at all in my opinion even if it is in a messed up world that most people were taught was much different than it is. The world as taught by parents and institutions of “education” is a lie. You must make of it what you will and are better off making it enjoyable to yourself. It’s hard for me to say that line whole heartedly as I have been having some very recent struggles myself. I have turned to the same question you posted here a few times in life. I decide each time it is better to keep on going through it all making what I can of it. We are taught that so much more in the world and adult life is in our control than really is. It is a rude awakening to reality that many go through at early ages and can be quite difficult at times. I still struggle with it time to time myself. But as my father says “If it feels good to be happy, be happy.” The old tired piece of advice there still holds merit. My happiness is contingent upon me alone and how I handle what comes my way good bad or indifferent. I have had a real bad day recently and am again off of work due to more back troubles. But at the end I still got through it had a roof over my head a warm bed, food, water cold and hot, electricity, and luxuries of a computer, internet, and unscathed on the whole. I live for a better tomorrow.

I hope this helps, peace to you.

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