What exactly is ambition?

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Gargamel wrote:

“I wish I had known MGTOW 20 or so years ago”.

Make that 60 years ago for me!

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Badger wrote:

Chinweizu
The Anatomy of Female Power: A Masculinist Dissection of Matriarchy. Was online at:
http://therawness.com/AFP.pdf

Lawrence Bostwick Shannon
The Predatory Female. A Field Guide to Dating and the Marriage-Divorce Industry. Was online at:
https://www.scribd.com/document/151933863/The-Predatory-Female

Amazon.com often has cheaper used copies of Vilar or Shannon. Walgreens sells Amazon gift cards one can use for purchases.

Thanks Badger, I just started reading…

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

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Workhard wrote:

“You have no ambition”.

Says a woman who dreams of bending over at the waist putting DVDs into DVD players, and running around in the sunshine with a couple of toddlers, while living rent-free off the grid on a man’s dime.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[WorkhardParticipant 343]

Yep, all the while complaining “how could you do this to me? I never wanted this! Your such a piece of s~~~” Even though I never experienced it personally I see it all so clearly in my mind!

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Workhard,
I can’t go into as much detail as I would like to here because my situation is unique enough that I might as well sign my name. But I have more ambition than just about anyone I’ve ever known. And I have the success that results from it.

Ambition as I define it is the willingness, and even the eagerness to make efforts and sacrifices to advance yourself toward something you wish to accomplish. From experience I can assure you that no amount of that ambition is sufficient to make an unhappy person happy with you. What an unhappy person really wants in exchange for their approval is for you to make those efforts and sacrifices to achieve something FOR THEM.

Lots of people, but single women in particular, would withhold their approval of you in hope to someday exchange it for you making effort and sacrifices for them. Women get it in their heads, from Disney movies, or harlequin romance novels, or some of the other crap they read… that SOMEONE ELSE is going to be responsible for their happiness. It’s a toxic idea. And of course, this does not really work. But instead of abandoning the idea and taking responsibility for their own happiness, they double down and raise their demand on other people for what it will take to get their approval.

When I was your age, they wanted flowers. At my age now, they want cars and real estate. But even if they get it, it is never enough.

Happiness is an inside job. We all have to take responsibility for creating happiness within ourselves. Direct your ambition toward goals that will make you happy within yourself. Don’t depend on someone else to do it for you, and don’t waste your time being baited into trying to do it for someone else.

That’s my definition of ambition: How much effort is a person willing to make to accomplish the things that will achieve happiness within themselves.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[WallyParticipant]

At the end of your life what does it matter that you lived your life to prove to others you have ambition? Or that you lived your life according to yourself? When you are at the end the only person it matters to is you.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

As long as an activity describe as an ambition does not benefit you, it is manipulation language to do something against your self interest and benefiting someone else.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Anonymous 43]

Ambition is doing for yourself so no one has to do for you.

The corollary: If you can’t do it yourself pay someone to do it for you so you don’t f~~~ it up.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Nobody else can tell you if you have enough ambition. That’s for you to decide.

Is your dream in life to be the world’s first gazillionaire? Then you’re going to need a LOT of hard work, great ideas, people skills or criminal ability and enough ambition to apply them steadily and effectively.

On the other hand, if it’s your life’s dream to become a surfer and beach bum, you probably only need enough ambition to get a job at an ocean side burger stand… and maybe a cool haircut or ability to play the acoustic guitar.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Workhard, Brainpilot’s advice is pretty darn good…but the short short version of his point is the word goal, or purpose. Your sister at al are defining your purposes in life as marriage. What they mean is you have no ambition to commit your life to the purpose of serving a woman through marriage…that is the goal they want for you…and that is the key—they want, not you want.

IS that the purpose of your life that you desire? OF course not…because the grey matter pulsing away in the 8 inches between your ears knows better.

Thus your problem is simple what is your goal in life, your purpose that you strive for? Only you can provide a definition. I would urge you to strive for something meaningful to you be it spiritual, intellectual, or material. Peple have struggled and thought about this question for thousands of years so there isn’t an easy answer. But I have learned this: You infuse meaning into what you do when it is your passion, your greatest desire. Thats’ it.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Ambition is having goals and working towards them. Trying to measure another person’s ambition by applying your life goals to them is rather pointless. If you are happy with the direction you are moving your life in, that is all that matters.

[HitmanParticipant]

So you follow your heart.

the heart wants what the heart wants.
the true inner compass.
listen to yourself.
take all other advice with a grain of salt.
“to thine own self be true”.

[Anonymous 0]

I’ll say it again:

Lions do not care about the opinions of sheep

You are already on the path to being a lion. Why do you care what they think?

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Cataphract wrote:

When they(women) say ambition, they mean being a better provider, if you’re not in a relationship, you’re not providing for a woman and in their [mind] that’s bad because men [must] get it in their heads that [if] they don’t need to provide for women, that would be bad news for women.

Well said, Cataphract. “Ambition” is their code word and their femspeak for the message and programming that they expect of you and other men eligible for marriage. Their concern is not for what YOU want, but what utility value you have for WOMEN. They want you to “man up” and get with a woman’s program. MGTOW is here to show you how to see through all of the fecal exams they throw at you.

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