What exactly do women get from Abusive men???

[AngularParticipant 114]

Ive always wondering on why abusive men seem to attract women I got my own theories on why they interest women and was wondering why they seem to keep women when its usually the abusive man who Benefit from the relationship in the material sense what do women get?

I am sure all of us men have heard/seem Women trying to convince themselves and their friends that somehow that abusive men is good for her. And it struck me as weird but just when you think you understand women they pull out another level of insanity.

how can this be explained???? do they just enjoy the thrill of hunt by trying to “change” men???

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Biology, my friend.

It is hard to simply unplug yourself from a 100.000 years of Matrix.

Women always wanted to find the strongest man, for in ancient times it was key for survival having the strenght and the guts to kill big game to bring back home and eat.

Now, imagine that mankind have real progress only in the last 20.000 years of this equation, and that from 100 years up to now we have advanced sciences and production increased a thousand fold in 100 years.

They have not evolved as we men evolved. They still have the same instinct that their ancestors from 100.000 years ago has.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Angular wrote:

Ive always wondering on why abusive men seem to attract women I got my own theories on why they interest women and was wondering why they seem to keep women when its usually the abusive man who Benefit from the relationship in the material sense what do women get?
I am sure all of us men have heard/seem Women trying to convince themselves and their friends that somehow that abusive men is good for her. And it struck me as weird but just when you think you understand women they pull out another level of insanity.
how can this be explained???? do they just enjoy the thrill of hunt by trying to “change” men???

A funny thing happens in the area of romantic love. You get someone who is addicted to another, and depends on them for identity and validation. The abuser will rig the game to make the abused think they are to blame. This blame gets turned inward, and the abused ends up spending their entire being to try to win the approval of the abuser. The abused likely doesn’t know the abuser is abusive until they are in the relationship. With this abuse state, you will also see the case of where the woman thinks she can change the main, so she stays there.

In cases where the abused is very limited financially, they are stuck there for financial reasons. I know that from my experience and what I had to go through. You put up with the toxic environment for the sake of survival.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[GrumpyParticipant]

First you would have to Define “Abusive”.
Primarily I would guess it would be her ability to claim “Victim hood”. Then manipulate that into a power position.
Women abuse men more than the other way around IMHO. We (society) will just disqualify it because it doesn’t suit the women as victim mantra.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Cap285Participant 6007]

The wonderful drama they crave so much. Because being tooled up by a thug is better than being ‘bored’.

Fuck this planet.

[14_Peter_88Participant 129]

As far as real abuse, as in physical/mental/emotional torture, i’d say that is far less common than the world would have us believe (with regards to men being the transgressors), but why women would stay with these men is similar to the reason why women ‘like’ or ‘want’ or ‘need’ men who are ‘dicks’ to them.

Women want and pursue safety. Men whom have higher status, looks, money or just a alpha type personality and demeanor, can provide women with this safety, the safety is completely imagined after all. But the only way to keep this woman at the stage where she doesn’t get bored, he has to continually make her question her ‘safety’. By poking her insecurities (there are many), making her question how faithful he is, not being reliable etc etc etc, providing her safety less and less, but never cutting it off.

All these things make the woman declare this man a DICK, yep, the D word.
But, if it weren’t for these things, she would have left him already. And her friends will lead a hate parade on him, but they’ll probably f~~~ him too if he provides the same process of providing safety then retracting, methodically.

Thus, the man is in control, in this scenario. But his control is in question all the time. Because as soon as he does what the woman says she wants
(i.e. stop being a dick), she will lose interest

This is not abuse, this is practically normal.

But there are hordes of women online, in chat forums, saying men whom do this are emotionally abusive, psychopaths etc etc

When, in reality, the women are causing this treatment. If they didn’t want this treatment, the men wouldn’t give them it.

When it comes to real abuse, i assume it is similar to this, the providing then taking away of safety, but it is on a way more f~~~ed up level, and the women whom stay with real abusive men, must have some sort of emotional hangup from there dad or something like that

[AngularParticipant 114]

A funny thing happens in the area of romantic love. You get someone who is addicted to another, and depends on them for identity and validation. The abuser will rig the game to make the abused think they are to blame. This blame gets turned inward, and the abused ends up spending their entire being to try to win the approval of the abuser. The abused likely doesn’t know the abuser is abusive until they are in the relationship. With this abuse state, you will also see the case of where the woman thinks she can change the main, so she stays there.

In cases where the abused is very limited financially, they are stuck there for financial reasons. I know that from my experience and what I had to go through. You put up with the toxic environment for the sake of survival.

The amazing thing is how some people are born with the ability to analyze people and short circuit them in a way, its almost like a human hacker.

Is similar to how magazines make women buy their products by making them feel ugly and convince them the only way for you to be happy is to buy X-product. no wonder they always step over “nice” guys the only thing that keeps their attention, interest or respect is abusive things or non-negotiating men.

First you would have to Define “Abusive”.
Primarily I would guess it would be her ability to claim “Victim hood”. Then manipulate that into a power position.
Women abuse men more than the other way around IMHO. We (society) will just disqualify it because it doesn’t suit the women as victim mantra.

abusive in the sense one partner is causing damage to the other person. Yes I absolutely agree with the part about women abusing men and I am not dismissing that or somehow think it does not agree , But I am interested in how some men can override women natural instincts and make her do something against her best interest which is in conflict with hypergamy. Going mgtow for me does not mean i can completely ignore women because of where I live I have no interest in abusing anyone but I would like to know how to make women work against their best interest if I have to.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Angular wrote:

Ive always wondering on why abusive men seem to attract women …

I keep coming back to behavior controlled by genetics: Her need to maximize the survival of her offspring. It sure as shooting ain’t common sense or good taste.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

That’s an easy one.

Way underneath all that insecurity — even when it’s put on like make up — the female ego is so enormous, they actually think they can “fix” him.

Women like reclamation projects and “extreme makeovers”. If you come perfect, sane, balanced, grounded, have your life in order, pay all your bills on time and carry a water bottle around…. there is nothing for her to FIX. She thinks she can change him.

They want men who they can mold and change into docile , controlled, pussified vases.
As soon as she is successful at it, she dumps his ass.

Then she blames him: “You’ve changed”.

This is why women actually COMPLAIN when you’re “too nice”. Because You don’t give her anything to complain about. And women are happiest when they are complaining about the abusive asshole who treats her like crap.

It’s so predictable you can write the script yourself.

She sees him as a “challenge”. But only a woman is DUMB enough to want something to be MORE difficult than it actually us,

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AngularParticipant 114]

Keymaster wrote:

That’s an easy one.
Way underneath all that insecurity — even when it’s put on like make up — the female ego is so enormous, they actually think they can “fix” him.
Women like reclamation projects and “extreme makeovers”. If you come perfect, sane, balanced, grounded, have your life in order, pay all your bills on time and carry a water bottle around…. there is nothing for her to FIX. She thinks she can change him.
They want men who they can mold and change into docile , controlled, pussified vases.As soon as she is successful at it, she dumps his ass.
Then she blames him: “You’ve changed”.
This is why women actually COMPLAIN when you’re “too nice”. Because You don’t give her anything to complain about. And women are happiest when they are complaining about the abusive asshole who treats her like crap.
It’s so predictable you can write the script yourself.
She sees him as a “challenge”. But only a woman is DUMB enough to want something to be MORE difficult than it actually us,

Makes sense

I had a super funny idea that i was thinking about that was just making me chuckle. Basically make a dating website that collects information on felons and gives women information on where to find them so they can try and “fix them up”

and our pitch will be

women have you ever wanted a cool dangerous man who will fight you and give you someone who you want to fix. well come on down to unfixedablemen.com

where these men are committed to stay being broken, do you not get enough drama from your current door mat of a boyfriend who you hate for not smacking you around and hate the fact your daddy likes him? Well for this fathers day bring daddy a convicted felon home and make him suffer for the crime of not being a mind-reader and not brining you a pony for that sweet 16.

I can just see the lulz and the false outrage of women and manginas alike saying women are not like that. then a couple of months in seeing someone submit an article of a “perfect” relationship and the women left him for a man with 10 felonies.

Would probably require either PHP or Python to make. And would give me great joy to laugh at bewildered men who just cant figure out why she left him for a men who assaults women.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Angular wrote:

I had a super funny idea that i was thinking about that was just making me chuckle. Basically make a dating website that collects information on felons and gives women information on where to find them so they can try and “fix them up”

Oh you don’t have to do that. Women already line up at prisons in droves to propose marriage to (and conjugal visits with) murderers, convicts, criminals, violent assholes and men on death row.

Why do you think 76 year old Charles Manson has a 23 year old girlfriend who wants to marry him so badly.

Murders actually get mailbags of love letters:

But she will break up with you ….. because “you’re too nice”.

SICK.

It’s not a question of what THEY get out of it. What you get out of it, is knowing you’ll never end up with a mentally sick bitch who has a PROBLEM when men are “too nice”. I’m telling you. To make that ‘gina tingle…. you gotta give her plenty to complain about.

A woman in my bed once said “Slap me. Slap me hard”. I kicked her out. I’m not ending up on the front page for a twisted psycho who can’t orgasm unless she;s being abused. I would rather stick needles in my eyes than satisfy that s~~~.

Just look at that sweet face.
No. I’m talking about the one on the RIGHT.

Now try and figure out which one is more f~~~ed up.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

The Sexual thrill !

I think in the past I posted a article, which provided scientific proof, that women crave drama. Then they deny it, trying to sucker men into their drama life.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

Angular wrote:

Ive always wondering on why abusive men seem to attract women I got my own theories on why they interest women and was wondering why they seem to keep women when its usually the abusive man who Benefit from the relationship in the material sense what do women get?
I am sure all of us men have heard/seem Women trying to convince themselves and their friends that somehow that abusive men is good for her. And it struck me as weird but just when you think you understand women they pull out another level of insanity.
how can this be explained???? do they just enjoy the thrill of hunt by trying to “change” men???

Nope. Never met or seen a woman who was being physically abused. I’ve never seen a woman with a black eye or bruises or anything like that. i’ve met women who lied about being abused. Hell, I’ve dated women who lied about it. Not saying it isn’t real. Just saying I’ve never seen it and certainly never had a woman try to explain why she puts up with it.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

uchibenkei wrote:

Nope. Never met or seen a woman who was being physically abused. I’ve never seen a woman with a black eye or bruises or anything like that. i’ve met women who lied about being abused. Hell, I’ve dated women who lied about it. Not saying it isn’t real. Just saying I’ve never seen it and certainly never had a woman try to explain why she puts up with it.

I have. Rhianna on the Oprah show – about Chris Brown – and how she keeps going back for more.

…and the thousands of screaming female fans who would LOVE to be her.

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If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[OldBillParticipant]

Angular wrote:

Ive always wondering on why abusive men seem to attract women.

It’s two things. First, it’s all the drama inherent in the situation. Women love drama. Drama makes their c~~~s drool.

Second, as you guessed, it’s the “Fairy Princess/My Love Will Change Him” idiocy. Women are told from childhood about the power of their vaginas and how their love can work miracles, so attempting to change a bad boy feeds right into the fantasies that fill their empty little heads.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

It’s just f~~~ed up, but it’s an eternal truth – assholes never lack for girlfriends. Those guys get positive reinforcement from the girls that their behaviour is acceptable, and they go with it.

What the girls get out of it – that’s the biggest question of them all.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Who cares?

As I am not an abusive man I have absolutely no use for knowing this. Nor interest.

[Smacktalk73Participant 296]

Having had false “abuse” charges filed against me by my ex-wife, the day before she filed for divorce, I can say that the reports of women being “abused”‘ are over-counted by at least one.

My ex-wife hit me many times, and I never hit her. Yet I was the one who went to jail. There’s a sickness to our social order that you don’t learn, as a man, until it pops up and tries to rip your face off.

So I tend to be very skeptical of women who claim they are “abused.” Claiming to be abused gives women a HUGE amount of power, and there are no consequences for false claims.

In fact, mostly, when women stay with “abusers” I tend to both doubt they are really being abused, and also suspect that whatever “abuse” is happening is actually egged on by the woman — because being “abused” gives her so much power.. If convincing my mate to punch me in the face was all I had to win that argument, and every argument thereafter (by being able to say “you hit me, you’ abuser!” I’d probably try to get hit myself.

[Anonymous 11]

Truthfully, a wasted life.

The fix it part plays a really big role. The dream that one day the abuser is going to reform himself thanks to her love and caring is held out by the abusive man much like a carrot in front of a donkey pulling a cart. Abusive men seek out those women who are susceptible to them of which there are many.

I’ve never known an abusive man who ever lacked for women. Between women who will only accept scum and women who want a submissive mangina, the average non-abusive guy with some spine is pretty much f~~~ed. I remember one old girlfriend whose brother said I was the best thing she ever drug in. I should have treated it as a warning not a complement.

Ahh, experience is the best teacher…..

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Trollops get moist knowing that the thug or trailer trash they are with could jack them up at any second.

It’s no different than the t~~~s of Rome’s ruling class who occasionally f~~~ed gladiators behind their husband’s back.

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