What Do You Think About Black Men Leaving MGTOW?

[Anonymous 0]

You totally missed my point by a long shot. The point of MGTOW is to wake other men up and prevent them from being thrown into the gynocentric meat grinder.

Because MGTOW isn’t mainstream yet but once it does it will naturally cause a shift in power. Just like how McDonalds is losing millions of dollars for their s~~~ty quality of food. The government is going to lose millions of dollars supporting all of these women. It is simply a shift in consciousness that resonates within you.

For every man that has taken the red pill,the less power we give them.

A drop of water creates a bead,multiple drops creates a puddle and a million drops creates a lake and billions create an ocean.

You don’t move a mountain in it’s entirety. You simply move it piece by piece.

We don’t have to fight the government/gynocentricism/feminism to win this was of consciousness you kill it by starving it of attention.

[HitmanParticipant]

they should do whatever they want. i am a man before anything else.

[HitmanParticipant]

i wouldnt bother to tell you my skin color ! its irrelevant.. no connection to my going my own way at all.

[Anonymous 0]

Anyways since this topic has been well answered by the MGTOW community. My hypothesis was that black men are blaming MGTOW for the lack of trying to solve their own problems. Because there are not enough black MGTOW to help other black men with black men’s issues and the audience is not sufficient enough to help wake enough black men up.

It has come to my conclusion that only black men can only solve black men’s problems. Because black people are a touchy subject and no other race can tell them how to solve their own problems without having to take the risk of constantly walking on eggshells of this topic having to be discussed.

Whichever black men that remain and see MGTOW as a beneficial solution to their everyday problems I welcome it. Please be aware that MGTOW welcomes any men with open arms and with an open discussion that is willing to ask the right questions and receive the best correct answers possible.

[sidecarParticipant 35874]

Anonymous wrote:

You totally missed my point by a long shot. The point of MGTOW is to wake other men up and prevent them from being thrown into the gynocentric meat grinder.

Nobody missed your point. You’re simply wrong.

The point of MGTOW is preventing yourself from being thrown into the gynocentric meat grinder. That some MGTOW choose to promote the benefits of Going Your Own Way is their own, individual business, and is completely independent of MGTOW itself.

As relates to this thread, this is why black men who complain that MGTOW is not “addressing black men’s issues” are completely off base. MGTOW is about them addressing their own issues themselves.

MGTOW is a description, not a prescription. This is why there are MGTOW who have never even heard of MGTOW.

MGTOW is an individual matter, not a collective one. It deals with the issues of the individual man, not society. Social issues are the business of the MRAs, for all the good it will do them.

Until you understand that or you don’t understand MGTOW.

Because MGTOW isn’t mainstream yet but once it does it will naturally cause a shift in power.

Don’t be ridiculous. MGTOW is mainstream. The majority of men under 35 are not married and unlikely to ever be. They may never have heard of MGTOW, but they know a raw deal like marriage when they see it, and if it looks like a MGTOW, and acts like MGTOW, it’s a MGTOW.

Because, as a wise member here recently said (I wish I could remember who), MGTOW is simply situational awareness, and more and more men are becoming situationally aware every day, all on their own. Most MGTOW are MGTOW before they realize any other men are also MGTOW. One of the common themes of new member here is: “I thought I was the only one.”

But for all that MGTOW are the majority, have you noticed any “shift in power”?

Of course you haven’t. Because MGTOW is not about power. It’s about freedom. It’s about independence.

If women want to drive the bus, MGTOW are fine with it, because they’ve already bailed out the emergency exit. And when women inevitably drive the bus over a cliff, MGTOW don’t care. They are done with the bus.

The government is going to lose millions of dollars supporting all of these women.

“The government” already is. Even if every single man on the planet was a good little provider we would not be able to keep up with the demand of female consumption.

Again, MGTOW is a symptom of the collapse, not a cause of it and sure as f~~~ not a solution.

[Anonymous 0]

sidecar wrote:

jack reacher wrote:

Sidecar, what I was trying to do, maybe not as effectively as I wanted, was to acknowledge the males role in child birth. There is no child without the participation of the male,

My point was that there’s no child without sperm. The “participation of a male” is hardly necessary. Except when it comes time to pay child support. Men can be nailed for nothing more than accidentally forgetting to dispose of their sperm safely. There are many many cases of women stealing sperm from men who did not have sex with them. Or even less than that in the case of men paying child support for children who aren’t actually theirs. And a man’s “participation” doesn’t even have to be consensual: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/arizona-rape-victim-pay-child-support-daughter-didn-existed-article-1.1927767 Here we see a male rape victim who was molested by a woman when he was 14 nailed for back child support the moment he turned 18.

yet the female can unilaterally chose to abort or keep the child.

And nothing will ever get better until women are required to unilaterally pay for their choice. Holding men responsible for the choices of women will not get women to make responsible choices.

We’re MGTOW and not MRA’s. We as MGTOW should stop whining less about women and start focusing more on ourselves as individuals. We know the laws are f~~~ed up and they government doesn’t have men in their best interests. 90% of prisons in the USA are specifically designed for men to use and exploit them.

Knowledge is power and that’s what men seek here on the MGTOW forums. There are simply too many men on the MGTOW forums in the anger phase and not enough in the acceptance stage. Sigh*

[jack reacherParticipant 751]

UN – I think you will find your tone of “MGTOW’s must”,  “thou shalt”  or any other move to explicitly define MGTOW will not resonate amongst men who self identify as going their own way.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

jack reacher wrote:

UN – I think you will find your tone of “MGTOW’s must”,  “thou shalt”  or any other move to explicitly define MGTOW will not resonate amongst men who self identify as going their own way.

That’s a fact. There was a lot of requests and talk about “the mgtow ten commandments” and people have said HEY WE SHOULD DO THAT! And we even started working on it. It could be done, if, say, it was more for entertainment value with a lighthearted twist of humor or to just inspire thought about what YOUR ten commandments of MGTOW might be. But to chisel a bunch of “dont’s” into stone as a rigid set of laws would never work. MGTOW would chew it up and spit it out.

For your interest… here are some shots from an early concept we started working on. It’s a “god like” fly through the clouds with lighting and these big stone “Harry Potter” style letters fly past you – with a terrific orchestral score.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[BDParticipant 1146]

sidecar wrote:

Nobody missed your point. You’re simply wrong. The point of MGTOW is preventing yourself from being thrown into the gynocentric meat grinder. That some MGTOW choose to promote the benefits of Going Your Own Way is their own, individual business, and is completely independent of MGTOW itself. As relates to this thread, this is why black men who complain that MGTOW is not “addressing black men’s issues” are completely off base. MGTOW is about them addressing their own issues themselves.

Great post Sidecar, that’s how I perceive Mgtow.

It’s not a religion, it’s not a cult, it’s not a movement,

it is simply men going their own way.

sidecar wrote:

Because, as a wise member here recently said (I wish I could remember who), MGTOW is simply situational awareness, and more and more men are becoming situationally aware every day, all on their own. Most MGTOW are MGTOW before they realize any other men are also MGTOW. One of the common themes of new member here is: “I thought I was the only one.”

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[sidecarParticipant 35874]

Anonymous wrote:

There are simply too many men on the MGTOW forums in the anger phase and not enough in the acceptance stage.

That “You are all too angry. Shame on you.” position of yours sure looks familiar…

You’re still not understanding MGTOW. Anger is not a “phase”. It’s a valid and appropriate response to injustice.

And f~~~ acceptance. MGTOW are not about acceptance. MGTOW are about indifference. They don’t “accept” inevitable injustice in society or the perversity if female nature. They don’t give a f~~~. That is not the same thing. They have no more f~~~s to give. And they don’t need to give any f~~~s because they avoid putting themselves in situations where they can be affected by the injustice of the law or the perverse greed of women.

But that doesn’t mean they can’t comment on injustice or greed.

jack reacher wrote:

UN – I think you will find your tone of “MGTOW’s must”, “thou shalt” or any other move to explicitly define MGTOW will not resonate amongst men who self identify as going their own way.

This right here.

MGTOW is a description, not a prescription.

Keymaster wrote:

There was a lot of requests and talk about “the mgtow ten commandments” and people have said HEY WE SHOULD DO THAT!

I can only come up with four:

1. Thou shalt not wed.
2. Thou shalt not cohabitate.
3. Thou shalt not sperm donate.
4. Upon violating commandments one, two, or three, though shalt have nobody to blame but thyself.

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