what do strip clubs, lap dances really saying to men?

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

This is your sex drive.

This is what we think of it.

So here’s a lap dance, and now you can f~~~ off.

 

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Every time I visit a strip club (which is rare) I could almost hear the government talking to me:

Imagine how much fun you could have here with this girl – how you’d f~~~ her brains out right here in this room, if this was a whorehouse…
But no, you can’t have that! Can’t have too much fun. Keep looking, but no touching. We will milk your money from you and leave you with blue b~~~~. Because we can. Be a good slave – keep paying money and get nothing in return but teasing.

F~~~ that s~~~

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 12]

I went to a strip club the other night for the first time in a couple of years as they were giving out free passes. I was bored as hell in there and nearly fell over when one of the strippers told me it was $100 for a lap dance. $100 to get teased!

As stripping no longer has any stigma attached to it what I have noticed is a lot of women are quite happy to sell their attention and affection. It’s not a big deal at all for them and it takes some of the sexiness away from it, when I first saw strippers back in the early 90’s you still had some women who had a bit of shame and their self consciousness added a bit of warmth and humanity to it.

I don’t blame the women for doing it though, the money is there. It is up to men to stop going and blowing all their cash in those places just to leave feeling even more horny than they did before they walked in and lighter in the wallet for it too.

Besides in my country prostitution is legal so brothels are often cheaper and more satisfying anyway. And if all you want is the release there is heaps of free porn on the net if you don’t mind masturbation.

 

 

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

Anonymous wrote:

Besides in my country prostitution is legal so brothels are often cheaper and more satisfying anyway. And if all you want is the release there is heaps of free porn on the net if you don’t mind masturbation.

Or you could just become a rapist. Immensely satisfying I say. Waiting in the bushes, running and chasing, overpowering etc.
Don’t worry about the victims, it’s just a ‘walk in the park’ for them.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

What they do is offer attention, touch in certain spots, and try to get you turned on enough in order to have you go in back for a lapdance.  It is a lot on preying on a guy also feeling lonely, by acting like they care.  You have married men going there, who aren’t getting any emotional support from their wives, so the stripper will try to offer this.  They do have a goal of trying to get regulars who come back and keep giving them money in exchange for their attention.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 12]

Lord Vats wrote:

Morlock wrote:

Besides in my country prostitution is legal so brothels are often cheaper and more satisfying anyway. And if all you want is the release there is heaps of free porn on the net if you don’t mind masturbation.

Or you could just become a rapist. Immensely satisfying I say. Waiting in the bushes, running and chasing, overpowering etc. Don’t worry about the victims, it’s just a ‘walk in the park’ for them.

I can’t tell the intent of your post but I never mentioned rape nor would I ever condone that nor do I think rape victims have it easy at all.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

In this case one could very well argue that cuddle cafes are merely to be regarded as “strip clubs light” so to speak and no guys, we can’t have a combination of both or better still a combination of say strip clubs brothels and cuddle cafes, that would be too much to ask for by a man, but then whenever it comes to comfort, we are not (supposed to be) as spoiled rotten as women are, huh..?

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

Anonymous wrote:

I can’t tell the intent of your post but I never mentioned rape nor would I ever condone that nor do I think rape victims have it easy at all.

It was satire. I just wanted to prove how rape culture is expanding when a woman can get raped just by taking a walk in the park. Forget about it, stupid and silly.

[treelville..miamiParticipant 893]

Strippers are prostitutes, all of them. They all have their prices, the only thing is you have to take them private which costs extra then negotiate the sex. They’re all prostitution rings, and never f~~~ a stripper bitch more than once the last thing you want is that bitch lingering.

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

There was a time when prostitutes and strippers were damn expensive. Now they face tough competition, can you guess from whom?
It’s from none other than real girls who are willing to do it for free. I’d say don’t pay for sex when you can have it for free.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Have sex with a stripper? Dude use your head, theres a STD waiting to happen.

Arent these the type of women that say choke me during sex? Lol.

Women make the rules, “violence against women is bad,” then they say choke me during sex. Their breaking there own rules, it makes them feel, empowered, bad girl, and of course the victim, if it backfires, How pathetic.

 

 

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[VictorParticipant 124]

Strip clubs and lap dances, and other services like prostitution and escorts, are telling men we’re crudely sex-obsessed and sex-dependent.  It’s a message that I think most women secretly enjoy seeing reinforced because it helps to keep men boxed into a phallic identity and dependent on women.  The widespread availability of casual sexual services and the permeation of sexual commodification and immorality (or amorality) into almost everything relevant to sex also helps keep men reliably Blue Pilled and conformist.  If sex is devalued and available everywhere in some form, then it becomes a drug.  The ‘love drug’ – like soma in Huxley’s Brave New World – helps to distract the dumb masses from issues of importance.

I’m not suggesting men should abstain from sex.  That would be unhealthy and counter-productive.  I’m suggesting that sex should be sexual, which is to say, it should be a feature only of loving relationships.  Otherwise, really, why bother?  Casual sex, so far as I can tell (not having had the experience) is actually asexual, with its focus on phallic consummation and lack of love and sensuality.  This is partly why I’ve never seen the appeal of strippers, escorts and other paid-for sex services, and I’ve always thought that ‘real’ men would (or should) have nothing to do with them.  I once booked with an escort but left almost as soon as I got there.  She was very attractive, but I couldn’t go through with it.  It just felt wrong and dirty in some ill-defined sense.

Someone’s going to jump in now and remind us that men pay for sex in one way or the other anyway – OK, largely true, but there’s an important qualitative difference in the experience, I think.

[Anonymous 12]

Victor wrote:

Strip clubs and lap dances, and other services like prostitution and escorts, are telling men we’re crudely sex-obsessed and sex-dependent. It’s a message that I think most women secretly enjoy seeing reinforced because it helps to keep men boxed into a phallic identity and dependent on women. The widespread availability of casual sexual services and the permeation of sexual commodification and immorality (or amorality) into almost everything relevant to sex also helps keep men reliably Blue Pilled and conformist. If sex is devalued and available everywhere in some form, then it becomes a drug. The ‘love drug’ – like soma in Huxley’s Brave New World – helps to distract the dumb masses from issues of importance. I’m not suggesting men should abstain from sex. That would be unhealthy and counter-productive. I’m suggesting that sex should be sexual, which is to say, it should be a feature only of loving relationships. Otherwise, really, why bother? Casual sex, so far as I can tell (not having had the experience) is actually asexual, with its focus on phallic consummation and lack of love and sensuality. This is partly why I’ve never seen the appeal of strippers, escorts and other paid-for sex services, and I’ve always thought that ‘real’ men would (or should) have nothing to do with them. I once booked with an escort but left almost as soon as I got there. She was very attractive, but I couldn’t go through with it. It just felt wrong and dirty in some ill-defined sense. Someone’s going to jump in now and remind us that men pay for sex in one way or the other anyway – OK, largely true, but there’s an important qualitative difference in the experience, I think.

Very true. If not love at least a genuine feeling of affection between the two people involved. Paying a stripper or whore is a business transaction, I have done both and I always feel cold and alone afterwards. As soon as it is over the woman no matter friendly she was to you before hand loses interest and you know the whole thing was a facade. I know that doesn’t bother many men but to me it makes me feel as though I would have been better off just jerking off.

It can also be a drug because it is so easy and while it lasts it does give you that high, but again like a drug that high is over once the session has finished and then what? To make it worse what if the woman/experience wasn’t even that good? It makes you want another “hit” of the drug to make up for it.

So yes the whole thing is set up to manipulate men’s love of sex and women but again men have to wake up and stop going if they feel the industry is really harmful to them. The women will keep doing it for as long as their are men eager to hand their cash over.

 

 

 

[VictorParticipant 124]

Anyway, all this talk of strippers and lap dancers takes me back about 14/15 years, when I was in my early 20s and learning my profession.

I worked for a small professional practice in a regional city.  The office was female-dominated, as was typically the case then and remains so nowadays.  They tended to be the secretaries.  I was very shy back then, as I am now, and didn’t talk much to anybody, especially the women.  They of course took that the wrong way.  What didn’t help is that I took a distaste to some of the office social events.

As a general rule – and here’s a tip for you – I don’t like attending work social events anyway, as I think there are significant risks with it.  This still applies now that I am self-employed.  I try not to socialise with my clients on any basis, unless they are insistent, as I think it can look unprofessional and lead to unfortunate situations.  I still think this is good advice, even if occasionally it results in offending somebody.  Keep your work and whatever constitutes your personal /social life entirely separate.

Back to my story.  Each Christmas, this female secretarial cabal would have a stripper in the office who would do her stuff in front of the elderly boss.  I suppose the ironic juxtaposition of a young, slim, fit female stripper and an elderly man must have been amusing to these women, in a sort of juvenile way.  Personally, it’s never been my thing, but each to their own.  Plus at the time (but not now) I was of a left-wing/liberal disposition, as young men sometimes can be – I was quite the little liberal, when all is said, and I was actually genuinely concerned at the way that this sort of thing objectifies and exploits women (actually, I still have that concern), and so I didn’t approve and didn’t partake, and in truth, my respect for these people lessened knowing they organised this year-in, year-out.

Needless to say, I never witnessed the ritual. I always made sure I had ‘other plans’ on that day.  I also never attended the other office ‘socials’.  So I was treated as a leper in the office, something I actually didn’t mind too much, as I am introverted anyway and always preferred to get on with the job.  My boss – the elderly man who was the object of this annual ritual humiliation with the stripper – used to tell me I was the best employee he had ever taken on.  That might have something to do with the fact that I didn’t, and don’t, drink, didn’t waste time, got on with the job, and made more money than everybody else there.  I also didn’t humiliate him with the stripper.  He was the boss, but a proper mangina he was too, taking that crap.

[narwhalParticipant]

Victor, in your first post, you stated that you thought sex should be reserved for a loving relationship.  Ok, I could except that ideal, however, you’d really need to define what a loving relationship is.  These days, I don’t know what a loving relationship is, so I’d love to hear your definition.

I will say from my experience, sex is often better if it’s casual then with someone you’re married to or dating for a long time.  With my ex, there were some great periods of sex, but there was also those periods where it was highly obligatory, and rather boring.  There was the nights she wanted to be the good wife, so just a blowjob.  How romantic.  Even when she was horny, there was no romance or anything like that. I jumped on those opportunities because who knows when that’s going to happen again.

Casual sex doesn’t happen unless both people want it.  There’s no obligation, it’s just raw emotion.  It’s not asexual at all, because people get a lot of satisfaction when their partner has an orgasm (most people I think).  You don’t get that with masturbation alone.   Besides that, in a relationship, I need her to be someone I could introduce to mama, who I’d trust to be around my kids.   For sex alone, the requirements are much different.

I honestly, from my experience, if you hold out on sex until you feel like you can tell her you love her, she’s going to freak out about it.  Don’t you find me attractive enough?  What’s wrong with me?  She’ll remember it too, how bad you treated her because you respected her and didn’t want to f~~~ her.

It really should be simple.  If she’s disease free, she wants it, and you want it, then do it.

As for strippers, I don’t think they are exploited at all.  They have all the control.  They get loads of attention of men.  They don’t do lap dances for guys they don’t want to dance for.  They either are indifferent or enjoy it themselves.  And they get paid well.

Ok. Then do it.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

1) Paying a lot of money
2) Not getting anything out of it
3) Being told to f~~~ off if she feels like it
4) Having spent money you could have used on yourself instead
5) Having wasted time too

So you mean stripclubs are like a date with a woman? lmao

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[peterfaParticipant 833]

I once saw on TV about the Bonobos who have a whole society of monkey sex. That’s how they do everything. It’s all about monkey sex. Well, this adult male has this food, and this female monkey wants the food. So, she throws her self at him and he gives her the food.

I told this to my sister who said to me, “Gosh, men are so stupid.” Several takeaways:

1. What kind of message is this to a developing teenage boy
2. Is this how she really sees men?
3. Is this how she really sees sex?
4. What if I said stuff like that about women, “Gee, look at what kind of whores women are?”
   1. or maybe that’s just it. She felt exposed because she knows she uses her sexuality to get s~~~ from men.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

treelville..miami wrote:

Strippers are prostitutes, all of them. They all have their prices, the only thing is you have to take them private which costs extra then negotiate the sex. They’re all prostitution rings, and never f~~~ a stripper bitch more than once the last thing you want is that bitch lingering.

I once tried to date a stripper for a few weeks, for giggles, to see what it would be like, and I can say that is true.  It was like hiring an escort and not getting anything.  After being done with it all, and just drifting off, before she had a chance to do her naughty party with her stripper friends, it ended.  I got a call a few weeks later by her, or one of her friends, expressing how upset she was me.  I had to play the ultimatum game and so on, to get her to call back.  And it was just money and time.  I figured I would see what it is like.  But, she had a chance to get out of the business, and go to college, paid by her parents, but she refused.  She had a kid while she was working as a stripper.

I saw all that she was doing, and observing.  She was there on the phone chatting while with me.  She was on the phone and called someone on the other end “honey” and I ask her, and she said it was just an “ex”.  Yes, I played along, to observe, and it was a monster waste of time.

But hey, feel free to try to date a stripper.  Up to you.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

In my state, lap dances are $10 dollars and private lap dances are $20+$5 to touch them.

 

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

“A fool and his money are soon parted”

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