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I guess most of you know my story already. My 2nd wife had an ongoing affair and it gave me a “Merry Christmas”, I kicked her out the day after Christmas. I started typing in searches to help me on YouTube and stumbled across Sandman and others, which led me to the MGTOW site. I was blue pill enough to give her a last chance, I got no answer. So when I got home, I joined MGTOW.
I watched Sandman for quite a while and a few other smaller MGTOW content creators on YouTube and I decided to use my limited knowledge and make a video on it myself, mostly talking about some of my experiences. In the comment section of said video someone told me to check out this site. I did and it’s been one of the best decisions I’ve ever made.
I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!
When I was researching (for the 100th time) why my wife (now ex) wouldn’t ever initiate sex. I spent years thinking it was my fault, and tried tirelessly to “fix” the problem. What a simp 🙂
Been there. Remember when you were young and thought: “It would be great to get married, I could have sex anytime I want to!” LOL No, one gets married to see how long one can go WITHOUT sex! I was down to about once a year. 99% of my sex was with Rosie Palms.
When my unicorn turned on me. It was then I realized the truth: there is no perfect woman and they all are wired the same way.
Great questions T3000,
What brought you to this website?
Simple, Pistol Pete. A friend since 1986.
Also, what made you join the community here?
First, 33 years service in the US Army. Since the first Gulf War I’ve seen the military emasculated because of the need for women and LGBTQ’s to obtain entitlements, and resultant positions, that weaken the Armed Forces and put soldiers lives at risk. This has only gotten worse since 9/11. This was not an issue prior to DS/DS as there were no individual mobilizations which meant that there was not a significant personnel turnover, so women could not get into many fields.
Second, having historically lived in Democratic areas and working for Higher Education. I have constantly seen fraud, waste and abuse of government subsidies and programs.
After talking to Pete about MGTOW for the past months and ghosting the site, I decided that it was time to join.
"My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it." - Clarence Buddinton Kelland
When I was researching (for the 100th time) why my wife (now ex) wouldn’t ever initiate sex. I spent years thinking it was my fault, and tried tirelessly to “fix” the problem. What a simp 🙂
Been there. Remember when you were young and thought: “It would be great to get married, I could have sex anytime I want to!” LOL No, one gets married to see how long one can go WITHOUT sex! I was down to about once a year. 99% of my sex was with Rosie Palms.
Yet they they f~~~ your brains out when the relationship is new. My ex couldn’t get enough, then went dead fish on me after our first kid was conceived. Spent the next twelve years scratching my head as to why this happened.
We were bait and switched.
After talking to Pete about MGTOW for the past months and ghosting the site, I decided that it was time to join.
And we’re all certainly glad you did.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I was in another country FAR overseas , and I had just openly criticized a woman’s behavior, and the woman I was speaking to said:
“Not all women are like that”.
That’s it. I had now heard it ONE too many times. How is it possible that no matter where I was in the world, women spit out this stock response and justification exactly the same way – as if totally scripted and rehearsed. Are all women born and programmed of the same hive mind to say exactly the same thing?
So I looked it up. “Not all women are like that” – and it turns out that videos on youtube had been already created addressing this very common and predictable deflection. It was already deconstructed and fully understood by countless men before me….. and that’s when an entirely new world opened up.
Phenomenal.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous6When I was researching (for the 100th time) why my wife (now ex) wouldn’t ever initiate sex. I spent years thinking it was my fault, and tried tirelessly to “fix” the problem. What a simp
Been there. Remember when you were young and thought: “It would be great to get married, I could have sex anytime I want to!” LOL No, one gets married to see how long one can go WITHOUT sex! I was down to about once a year. 99% of my sex was with Rosie Palms.
Yet they they f~~~ your brains out when the relationship is new. My ex couldn’t get enough, then went dead fish on me after our first kid was conceived. Spent the next twelve years scratching my head as to why this happened.
We were bait and switched.
It’s brain numbingly sophomoric and horrifyingly effective what women do. It’s called trying to f~~~ somebody into a commitment. It’s a powerful tool. It’s the same thing as a loss leader in a grocery store, everyone and their mom has seen this. The grocery store marks down , let’s say, toilet paper. Everyone needs that, but this particular toilet paper is marked down so much that the store takes a loss with each unit sold while it’s on sale. They put this crap close to the doors so that everyone sees it and they then send out flyers. The idea is that they get customers in the door to purchase something that they need and/or want to stock up on, while their in the store they’ll probably say stuff like, “Oh yeah I need milk and junior needs toothpaste…let me get that too while I’m here.” So the store actually wins most of the time. They’ll also typically mark up something else people purchase a lot of to compensate for the loss leader, coffee is a great example. Once the sale is over on toilet paper the coffee won’t be as expensive and will go back to the price that it normally is. Either way the store hates it when smart shoppers go in there and just purchase the loss leader and nothing more.
And so it is with women and sex. They’ll give it to you for a price that they’d never charge to begin with (they all charge for vagina by the way) until you’re hooked and then that’s when they spring the elevated price tag on you. Don’t you like her companionship? Don’t you like what she does for you? You don’t want to live without her right? So why not take the next logical step and get married, you’re practically married already aren’t you? Many of you will find those questions familiar. MGTOW!!!!
I got married thinking I found a unicorn..Then the subtle manipulation started and I was soon running in circles clueless on trying to keep her insanely happy…SHe left, I got depressed…Tried to solve my depression online by reading about moving on, got connected to relationships stuff youtube, then to An ear for men, then to the red pill movie, and I wound up here…Best hunt of my life ever and it saved my life and my mind to know that I am not alone feeling this way…Thank you Brothers…
I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...
I found the site after researching why girls were acting the way they were towards me. Girls who were lazy, who had poor work ethic, school and credit card debt, no assets, 10 year old car, 3 cats, 1 bedroom apt. etc etc. thought that they could be in charge of me and my life.
I happened to find a reply on youtube video describing how online dating is a scam, and the poster suggested reading MGTOW.com
Well after reading stories for about a day I came to the same realization most of you came to, I’m not the only one this s~~~ has happened to.
Then I thought back to my past relationships and realized I always had the same mentality towards women. But as I grew older I became more and more blue pill since I wasn’t successful in landing a wife.
It’s been over a year since I started on these forums and I haven’t looked back.
Boy does this ring true for me. More than a year ago while in a s~~~ty relations~~~ with a bipolar, alcoholic, PMS raging hottie that I starting wondering WTF is going on in this world. Why are women like this. Many Youtube videos later and now im a member, and telling my other red pill friends, check this out.
The most important thing you can do is ask yourself, what do I really want out of life. Really think about it, and always be true to yourself. Then Do it.
Did anyone else here find this website accidentally by Googling “Maximum Gross Take-Off Weight”? Anybody???
I was in another country FAR overseas , and I had just openly criticized a woman’s behavior, and the woman I was speaking to said:
“Not all women are like that”.
That’s it. I had now heard it ONE too many times. How is it possible that no matter where I was in the world, women spit out this stock response and justification exactly the same way – as if totally scripted and rehearsed. Are all women born and programmed of the same hive mind to say exactly the same thing?
So I looked it up. “Not all women are like that” – and it turns out that videos on youtube had been already created addressing this very common and predictable deflection. It was already deconstructed and fully understood by countless men before me….. and that’s when an entirely new world opened up.
Phenomenal.
Wow. Think about that one for a second, guys. Think of how different things might be had that not happened. For one thing we’d probably never have gotten this oasis in the desert that is the world we live in today. We’d be out there still, trying to weather the sandstorms of feminism and women’s behaviour in general. I mean, we are, but without this refuge we can come back to any time we want, we’d likely be dead and/or buried underneath the sand of gynocentrism.
I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!
A buddy of mine in the USA, mentioned it during some dating experiences he had heard of. I had to ask him what MGTOW actually stood for. When he told me, I checked out the site and started to digest the red pills, this way…
I quickly realized not only to ghost the sloot I was with, but a whole lot more.
* Never marry, impregnate, co-habitate any sloot
* Put your OWN happiness first
* The myth of male power over women (this one is key)
* How evil a lot of women are in the dating world
* A void is never the result of a womanLife honestly is so much better without having to worry about women. I have a FWB I see once a fortnight, but I don’t even care if that eventually ends. I prefer my own company most of the time when I’m not working, or at the gym etc. I enjoy my weekends more than ever. Am so much more organised with things, sleep better, no stress.
I was in my early 20s, suffering from low self-esteem and some shyness. I realized that even though I was an extremely nice guy, I was getting absolutely zero attention from women. My parents and the rest of my family were belittling me for not having a girlfriend and wondering if I was gay. I tried to explain to them that it’s because the women don’t want me, and they just said “you’ll never get a girl with that attitude!”. I didn’t understand them. They seemed completely oblivious to the fact that I was shy and also physically unattractive due to being excessively skinny. So I search for advice on the internet about how to get better with women and learn about PUA.
I try PUA techniques for a little bit, with no real results. It got me to loosen up my shyness a bit, but I still wasn’t getting anywhere with women. I actually ended up on a date with a girl at one time, but she was just stringing me along for attention and clearly wasn’t very interested (the full story is in my introduction). I begin to question the validity of PUA techniques, and then come across a site called PUAHate. Here was a site full of extremely angry and sad people, who also believed that PUA was a scam to make money off of men. The community was some of the most bitter and hateful people I have ever seen on the internet. But I stuck around because I felt I might be able to learn something here. It was at this site that someone mentioned MGTOW.
I was still 26 years old when I first found about it. PUAHate seemed to like MGTOW’s definition of “hypergamy”. “Alpha f~~~s, beta bucks” resonated with me. I also read about avoiding marriage as well. However, I still wanted to try to improve with women, because I just wanted to get a girlfriend/sex and wasn’t thinking about marriage.
I am in grad school at this point and extremely busy. I take up weight lifting around age 28 so I can look better – and I certainly do look better today than I ever did. So when I graduate and get my big job at age 29 (last year), I went on Tinder with my new job title and everything, and got lots of attention from single mothers. However, I didn’t want single mothers because I was already wary about getting involved with them. I was able to get a couple of dates, but they did not display much interest in me beyond the first date. These women weren’t even very attractive, either – probably about 5 or 6 at best. Then, I realized something. The only women that seemed to actually be pursuing me on Tinder were single mothers, which I didn’t want. I remembered “Alpha f~~~s, beta bucks” again. This is what brought me back to MGTOW last month and got me interested in reading more about it.
Now, I know better than to pursue women. MGTOW made me take a good, hard look at myself and made me realize that all this time, I’ve been trying to please society. I realized that my own views are far more important than what society thinks, or even what my parents or family think. I realized that the only reason I’ve been trying so hard to desperately get a girlfriend was because my family and society rejected this notion about me. I always knew this, but I think the true internalization of this only started when I integrated what I read on MGTOW with my own life experiences.
So, do I still want a girlfriend? I really couldn’t care less anymore. I’ve just made a decision that I’m not going out of my way for them anymore. But if I ever do get a girlfriend, she’s going to behave on my terms only. And if she can’t behave on my terms, then I will shut her down. This site reminds me that I am a man and that I have every right to have demands as much as she does. And if she can’t meet them, then she’s worth nothing to me. There’s a good chance that no woman I ever meet will measure up to my standards for behavior and that I will never have/keep a girlfriend. Which is perfectly fine with me.
If I was going to have a girlfriend, I want her to be reasonably attractive, sexually available, a girl who actually likes and appreciates me for what I am, no nagging/head games, and loyal and respectful to me. That’s really it. Which is sad to say, I don’t think there’s a single woman who actually meets every one of these very simple qualities.
This site, combined with my life experience and observations up to this point, was one of the keys to making me a much stronger and happier man. I care nothing for what people think anymore. And for that, I am grateful.
Formerly MoneyOverBitches
I found this movement because of my soon to be ex-wife’s flippant comment. After I told her I wanted a divorce she asked me if I was going to be a MGTOW. I asked what she meant and she gave a crude explanation of it. I was curious and some time later looked it up.
After lurking and reading for a while, I quickly realized that all the thoughts and feelings I had or lacked were encompassed by this. It was and is being reinforced by reading the accounts of gents here and seeing their experiences mirrored in my soon to be ex’s behavior.
A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!
To OP regarding the question in topic – what brought me to MGTOW was basically one thing.
That is – how women are supposed to be vs the REALITY.
In other words Blue Pill Programming at work vs how women really are and behave. I don’t hate them, though. I just see now their true nature and I protect myself from it.I am so happy to be awaken before getting into anything serious… If not for MGTOW, I’d bash my head against the wall and be simping/white knightning for any meaningful relationship. Red Pill showed me the alternative. Life so much better, drama free, where I can trully be myself and have NFG attidude. Live simply, by myself and realize my dreams.
Thanks for daily doses of Red Pills, brothers! They really help in my weak moments.Polish MGHOW
I was running searches on the internet for various things:
why my ex was so crazy – I didn’t know what BPD and narcissism was at the time or that so many millenials have it. The only small benefit to having dated one was that now I can pretty much spot a woman like that out almost instantly. The crazy is in the eyes, but once they open their mouths, it’s confirmed.
what women are looking for in a guy, how to attract a good woman, and other blue pill topics
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Then I came upon an article where someone in the comments stated to screw those bitches, and that men needed to figure out what they do on their own. Intrigued, I followed that rabbit hole deeper. I actually made it to MGTOW by way of ROK & PUA bulls~~~, then to MRA, and finally to MGTOW.
I think nowadays things are shifting where PUA and MRAs are shrinking and MGTOW is growing rapidly. So if I were to run the same search now as I did then, I would have found MGTOW A LOT faster.
"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt
It was a cumulation of many events, but the last straw was giving a “nice girl” a chance, and after only 3 months of dating, watching her turn into the same kind of passive aggressive unable to communicate bitch; a road that so many others had walked. She had a kid I didn’t particularly like and I remember the sense of relief I felt on the ride home to not see my lifetime’s savings sold to that investment of self destruction.
Once I realized that even the “NAWALT” that many had recommended for years failed, I had zero interest in putting my waders on and sifting through those waters with any serious intent again. Barbarossa’s “Women are parasites” video came at the right time and I never looked back.
Anonymous42Women and how they treat men over the duration of my lifetime. My life was placed in the same timeline that spawned feminism and the horrible treatment of men that comes standard with that mental illness.
Congratulations feminists, you’ve managed to get men to drop the ball on your head!
Keep slandering, belittling, and degrading men, I sure it will all work out, and in the end another believer in the MGTOW philosophy,
You feminists are nothing more than the best fertilizer ever known to grow MGTOW!
Keep up the good work ladies, MGTOW takes the cream of the crop and leaves you with the simps, manginas, and Chad to divide among yourselves on the c~~~ carousel, enjoy the ride! Sorry all that’s left are the donkeys and camels, the stallions are all here refusing to be plow horses!
Hasta la vista honey, enjoy your life! I know we do! ALONE!
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