What are your estimates for MGTOW?

[LastManStandingParticipant 638]

I was wondering what everyones guestimates were for the percentage of MGTOW men in the western world. (even if they don’t use that label).

Also, what percentage of men would be needed to cause a notable disturbance to society?

My guess it about 5-7% are MGTOW and 35-40% would be the tipping point for society.

[ghostParticipant]

I think it’s not even 1%. In my opinion, the tipping point is probably 15-20%, but I don’t ever see that happening. At least not in my lifetime.

I am enjoying the perks of our society and could care less about going back to traditionalism. Feminism has freed men like us and I’m happy.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

Yea Gambit has it right, it’s less than 1% at least it is here in the U.S

Just about every guy I’ve met is either dating, married, or doing the hookup apps. MGTOW is even more unheard of in my state than most. You find this out, when people both men and women, automatically assume you’re gay if you tell them you’re single and not looking. Are they stupid f~~~s ? Yep they are, but it is what it is.

Tipping point ? I would place that around 25%, but also like Gambit, i don’t see that happening in my lifetime, i think the male population in Japan is much smarter, and have much more common sense than here.

[ghostParticipant]

Antipathy wrote:

people both men and women, automatically assume you’re gay if you tell them you’re single and not looking.

Or, they assume you’re just lying and don’t want to tell anyone who you’re dating. Most people think I have a secret girlfriend.

Antipathy wrote:

i think the male population in Japan is much smarter

They have been opting out for a while now. We can learn a lot from our Japanese brethren.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

I would say only around 5% of men even know about mgtow. The date I joined the forum is 5 days after I found out about mgtow. Women I would put the number closer to 60 to 70%. Men just do not talk about things like mgtow.
Metoo might have changed the game and have more men talking about mgtow. I have noticed some just going with manout. Which I need to see if it is a movement on its own.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[CthulhuParticipant 698]

Oddly enough, the shop where I work has 8 guys, including the boss. 2 aren’t MGTOW. Boss and another idiot. I don’t think that’s normal, but the business product place next to us has 4 guys, two MGTOW. But I also know there’s places where every guy is married or in a relations~~~.

I also know there are places where there are overly abundant amounts of single land whales. They’re even going out of town to find the next ride, which I think is a great idea. Too bad they have to come back.

Why vote for a lesser evil? #ICETHEMOUT

[Anonymous 3]

Maybe 0.5% and I’m being generous. Probably closer to 0.1%. There’s what, 150M adult males in the US? 0.5% is 750k. There’s no way there’s 750k. Even 75,000 seems like a too high amount, but that’s at least more realistic.

I refuse to count incels and the like. Everyone knows they aren’t MGTOW, and usually they barely pretend they are.

[rironParticipant 45]

Well it kind of depends how you define MGTOW, and whether or not you include confirmed bachelors (Men who follow the MGTOW philosophy despite not knowing the name MGTOW).

Confirmed Bachelors who say they just haven’t found the right person yet to get people off their backs: <10%
Confirmed Bachelors who are open about it: 1%
Men who are MGTOW and know the name MGTOW, but don’t dox themselves: <1%
Men who are MGTOW and dox themselves: 0.1%

Men don’t need to actually know the term MGTOW to reap the benefits.

In the meantime, the christmas mgtow stream came up with the idea of writing “what is MGTOW” and similar s~~~ on paper money, and then spending it. Allows you to spread mgtow, with complete deniability. Totally supporting it, and totally doing it.

Write "What is MGTOW?" on paper money and spend it. Spreading MGTOW with complete deniability. (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

On Youtube, it’s not uncommon to come across a comment on a completely random video with just the word “MGTOW.” These comments often have upwards of 300 likes. There aren’t many of us, and I certainly lean towards a more conservative estimate, but they’re out there.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[LastManStandingParticipant 638]

its low and I know its low. I guess when I said between 5-7%, I mean men who are willing not wanting to marry and have kids. Not, so much men who define themselves with a MGTOW label.

If you guys are right that is only 1% or less of all men, I am honestly surprised mgtow gets any backlash at all.

[ghostParticipant]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

There aren’t many of us

I have two friends who are not married, but one still thinks he will find the right woman. The other just ignores the topic altogether, but I don’t think he believes AWALT.

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

First comes Red Pill, then comes MGTOW.
The amount of red pill bombs being dropped on ‘man-up and date’ videos is staggering.

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[ghostParticipant]

Manspread Mansplainer wrote:

man-up

I already did.

#OptOut

[OldBillParticipant]

LastManStanding wrote:

I was wondering what everyones guestimates were for the percentage of MGTOW men in the western world. (even if they don’t use that label).

As you note, there’s a difference between the number of self-declared MGTOWs and the number of practicing MGTOWs.

I’d put the number of self-declared MGTOWs in the Anglosphere and EU to be statistically insignificant because, in part, many of them aren’t actually MGTOWs.

The number of practicing MGTOWs is much greater as statistics like the collapse in marriages and falling native birthrates prove. A tipping point of sorts has already been reached.

Also, what percentage of men would be needed to cause a notable disturbance to society?

It’s not just a percentage of men, but a percentage of that all important, 18-50, marrying, child rearing, career earning, age bracket. Even a small number of those men going their own way will have profound effects as the sociological consequences of WW1 and WW2 casualties suggest.

My guess it about 5-7% are MGTOW and 35-40% would be the tipping point for society.

Those numbers is both high and low depending on where you look and which ages you look at. I think it’s high for the Anglosphere and EU but low for Japan where over 60% of men in their 30s call themselves herbivores.

The tipping point as already been reached. While immigration from the Third World has partially masked it, the numbers are pretty clear.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22520]

I would guess number of MGTOW in percentage of the population is at least in the low double-digits due to the fact women are complaining more and more that men are having nothing to do with them.

[ghostParticipant]

OldBill wrote:

It’s not just a percentage of men, but a percentage of that all important, 18-50, marrying, child rearing, career earning, age bracket. Even a small number of those men going their own way will have profound effects as the sociological consequences of WW1 and WW2 casualties suggest.

Nice. I am proud to be contributing to this.

OldBill wrote:

Japan where over 60% of men in their 30s call themselves herbivores.

Also known as the grass-eater men. I actually want to visit Japan and talk to some of these men. I’m sure I could learn a thing or two from them.

[ghostParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

women are complaining more and more

Good for them. They can complain all they want because I’m not listening or caring anymore.

[OldBillParticipant]

ghost wrote:

Also known as the grass-eater men. I actually want to visit Japan and talk to some of these men. I’m sure I could learn a thing or two from them.

While it would be interesting to talk with them, I don’t think it will be like visiting a “dojo” and learning from “the master”.

From what I’ve learned both from articles and during jobs in Japan, the herbivores’ one common attribute is minimalism. They’ve simplified their lives and reduced the annoyances they must deal with by minimizing their needs and desires.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ghostParticipant]

OldBill wrote:

They’ve simplified their lives and reduced the annoyances they must deal with by minimizing their needs and desires.

I have already done that with my life to the best of my ability. I think it’s a wise thing to do. I know a lot of men on here have been making similar changes to their lives.

[Anonymous 12]

I think it is more than we think and growing. I was MGTOW before knowing the term, lots of other men would be living a similar life to what we talk about here. They just don’t know the term.

I’m not saying it’s even close to 20% but I would say far more than 1%.

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