What am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous 3]

F~~~ chilling out bro. That’s PC womanspeak. Join the dark side and embrace the hate. But don’t sabotage yourself and your life, as others have pointed out. Don’t go out and beat people up, that’s counterproductive.

The first step to true indifference is to be indifferent to your current (lack of) progress. As long as you are still holding onto the idea of you not getting over the red pill rage in a set amount of time, and getting frustrated and whatnot, it’s only making it more and more difficult.

You’re still having this red pill rage or whatever people call it? Who the f~~~ cares man! Rage away I say. Let this spark turn into an unstoppable inferno. F~~~ suppressing it. Unleash it and burn it out.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Red pill rage sure takes some time to fade.
Took me maybe around a year.
Now, when I hear the feminists in my uni trying to spread their bulls~~~ it makes me laugh. Because I know who they’re screwing in the end.
THEM.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[CodeBleuParticipant 161]

StanAndreas wrote:

Brother, I think you need to let that go. It’s not within your power and it’s not your job to bring them down all on your own. Also, if you obsess about their evil and all the bad things they’ve done, you let them continue to have power over you. The best way to make them pay is to take away their power, beginning with their power over you. The best way to help your male friends is to show them the MGTOW path, so that they too can deplete the gynopower base.

I think we all at some point are/were at the stage of not letting it go. On the other hand (and this is not an attack on you Stan or anyone else) it’s not up to anyone but the individual who decides how long to rage/grieve. Only you know what your terms of moving on are. Yes, once you realize that you can take the power back simply by GYOW, coming to indifference or forgiving and forgetting, you’ll sleep better at night. Personally, I’d rather forget than forgive. Forgiveness isn’t a foreign concept to me. I guess it all depends on the degree I was harmed. I can forgive someone for bumping into me on the sidewalk. I don’t forgive so easily when someone tries to ruin my life due to her “female nature”. IMO forgiving that makes me look like a chump. Instead I just think “F~~~ you, you’re dead to me.”

[Klaus WindamierParticipant 543]

Well, it called a lesson.

Maybe you are a ‘justice’ type of person, means, you cannot ignore injustice in front of you.

But you must understand, that rage, sadness, anger, happiness, it is all temporary, it is not eternal.

Let’s compare you with someone who still in blue pill life, i bet you can handle rage better that those white knight whose anger suddenly fumed after seeing weemyn in trouble no matter what.

There is no easy way to learn and learning is not gonna stop until one’s die.

[HitmanParticipant]

you aint doing anything wrong dude , let it happen at it’s own pace .focus on your goals and dreams to live free , pursue what you care about ,..women are great for sex ..not sure what else though …be patient with yourself ..it takes time ..sometimes i get angry , sad ,thinking what a fool iv’e been for so long in my blue world …but that was an illusion …the truth sets you free ! and freedom lets you be alive , like never before ..it’s a new reality ..it takes time to adjust

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

MIKETOW wrote:

I think part of it is that deep down I am vengeful. Don’t get me wrong, I am a very peaceful person, but I secretly want to see women go down. I want them to pay for what they’ve done to me and my male friends. I know that MGTOW is growing by the day and something will eventually give, but I’m impatient.

Miketow-
What you are experiencing is normal. Eventually, you will develop a sense of inner peace and unbelievable freedom. You will enjoy a life free from drama and manipulation. You will start to avoid women not because you hate them, but because you will come to cherish the peace and lack of strife. You might still have females you spend time with, but your eyes will be opened to their manipulations and you will come to loathe long term entanglements.
You will turn out just fine brother.

[Anonymous 29]

MIKETOW wrote:

I have been MGTOW now (a self identifying one anyway) for over 7 months now. And I am still experiencing red pill rage. I’ve heard numerous people say that it only lasts for 6 months max. I mean, I have accepted the fact that women are what they are and it’s just their nature to be that way. But it still hasn’t chilled me out.

I really don’t think there is anything wrong wit you or what you are doing.
Some need a s~~~ load longer to get out of that zone.
Saying that, you being aware of your state of mind and writing about it is a bonus, even if not seen as such. It does make you stronger and more clear headed. Also, make no mistake, the line between red pill rage and passion can be very fine. Could be that now your strong feelings are heading in another direction, away from actual physical urges to smash, destroy, hate and do self harm.

Just go with the flow.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

I have been MGTOW now (a self identifying one anyway) for over 7 months now. And I am still experiencing red pill rage. I’ve heard numerous people say that it only lasts for 6 months max. I mean, I have accepted the fact that women are what they are and it’s just their nature to be that way. But it still hasn’t chilled me out.

Didnt read the other replies; but I know Im an outlier in my view.

Youre approaching the situation as though youve been diagnosed with erectile dysfunction, and youve been given a pill to cure it.

I dont view it this way…

These socially constructed phrases dont carry any more weight than the immaterial cyberspace pages theyre written on.

Youre not experiencing the symptoms of a scientific disease. There are no defined periods/windows in which normalcy will ensue afterwards.

Youre p~~~ed? You should be. Youre a man with a dick. All throughout history men pursue and have a relationship of reciprocity with women.

They have extremely sexually desirable traits for us. Soft skin. A warm smile. Glowing eyes. Nourishing breasts and a soft, warm, wet hole to slide our hard c~~~s in.

We ALL like that, right?

Men get p~~~ed because women, and the society we live in, allows them to leverage our compulsive sexual desires into something that was never intended: women manipulating and controlling men; taking advantage of our short term immediate lusts and leverage them for their long term gain.

You should be p~~~ed. Its an unequal and unnatural relationshiop.

Some men say their no longer p~~~ed because they expect nothing less from women. Thats denying them individual responsibility. Their adults. They have the ability to own up to their actions.

Be p~~~ed.

Dont let it harbor inside you and ruin you. But if you have no anger than you do not hold the other party responsible for their actions.

They are responsible.

This sentiment goes hand in hand with the sophmoric, machismo attitude of “I give zero f~~~s” about anything.

People post things about politics, the economy, and society as a whole and youll see posters say:

“Im not wasting a f~~~”.

As though they live on an island, growing all of their own food and are entirely autonomous. F~~~ing nonsense.

We all live in society and if it goes under we all will feel the effects.

If you want to sound like a douche bag tool on an online forum and not face reality, simply say-

“I give zero f~~~s”.

If you want to discuss how life truly effects you and interact with others, share your honest ideas.

Resident cynic.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

MIKETOW wrote:

I have been MGTOW now (a self identifying one anyway) for over 7 months now. And I am still experiencing red pill rage. I’ve heard numerous people say that it only lasts for 6 months max. I mean, I have accepted the fact that women are what they are and it’s just their nature to be that way. But it still hasn’t chilled me out.

My suggestion is to stop watching mgtow videos or cut down. I pretty much stop watching them because it the same thing anyways. There is nothing new to be said about MGTOW, not anything ground breaking. This has helped me stop the red pill rage. Mine lasted for over a year.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

There is nothing new to be said about MGTOW, not anything ground breaking

What an honest and authentic response. (standing ovations…jazz-hands; or whatever the f~~~).

At least CC is transparent enough tol call it as he sees it.

Personally I see nothing wrong with being on MGTOW and sharing your experiences. I do see a problem in people: reading, replying, then stating they give zero f~~~s.

Makes no sense.

Resident cynic.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

MIKETOW wrote:

I have been MGTOW now (a self identifying one anyway) for over 7 months now. And I am still experiencing red pill rage. I’ve heard numerous people say that it only lasts for 6 months max. I mean, I have accepted the fact that women are what they are and it’s just their nature to be that way. But it still hasn’t chilled me out.

Do you want to overcome it for personal reasons, or expect there to be some sort of timetable for being a “normal” MGTOW. I don’t believe there is a “normal” MGTOW, which I see as a point of MGTOW. Forget what people say about what is SUPPOSED to be, and just know what works for you. The thing about rage, is that it can go on your entire life. It has no timetable and can go on indefinitely unless it has reasons to stop. So long as it doesn’t get you in trouble, and you manage it, then it is something you have. If you want to get rid of it though, you can try a few things:
* Ask why you are angry, and then ask why that bothers you. Keep doing this until you can’t go any further, and you get to the core of why you have the rage.
* Realize the world doesn’t care if you rage or not. Individuals may, if you show rage around them, but the rest of the world doesn’t.
* Have other things in your life going for you that don’t involve women to make you focus elsewhere. If you don’t start living your own way, you are going to have a void in your life that the rage will leak into.
* Know what things end up setting you off. You can have rage linked to them. The intellectualization of the situation can reduce this. Idea is to shift away from anger as what emotion is related to that though. Anger is a strong emotion. You can try to replace it with laughter and humor.
* Anger will flow out of a sense of injustice. In your looking into the why of things, you can ask why you expect things to be different. What do you want to learn from it? Imagine you can’t change it, but the anger is trying to teach you something. Find out what that is. It is entirely possibly you have some weak point that is letting something in. Find out what it is, so you can then learn to address it.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[qeeqoParticipant 1168]

I still have it, and I’m not worried about it a bit, I’m content to let it ride its course. I’m glad I’m no longer thinking there is something wrong with me when it comes to women, and I have the red pill and this site to thank for that. I haven’t had a single relationship with a women that didn’t quickly lead to turmoil. f~~~ that s~~~, they are adversarial c~~~s. Every time I think about diving back in even momentarily I remind myself where the yellow brick road inevitably leads.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 25019]

The only woman I have any kind of relationship with is my mother. She’s 84 and is a proto-third wave feminist. She has a chip on her shoulder that weighs a ton. She used to lash out in anger when we disagreed with her. Now she lashes out by shunning us when she is upset (at the smallest and most unpredictable slights).

It still get’s to me because I allow her into my head. She could care less.

Does it give me blue pill rage? I am human, of course it does. But I get on here and express it and that makes me feel a lot better knowing there are men who also go through this every day.

Good for you for finding a place to express yourself without judgement.

I’ve been going my own way for over 20 years and still regularly get upset at being treated like s~~~ by the women I associate with. It doesn’t end. You just learn not to react to it and remove yourself from those feelings as soon as possible.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[MIKETOWParticipant 757]

Thanks, guys. A lot of great answers here. The the reason I am concerned about the rage is because it is baggage in a sense. I mean, I know it is natural and is a normal phase, but happiness and inner peace are what I’ve strived for my entire life (as we all have). But I think I’ll just go with the flow and let things take their natural course. The rage will subside when it does. My problem is that I can be a very impatient person sometimes. I like to see immediate results and I expect a quick fix a lot of times. But the answers here have helped a lot. Thanks again, y’all!

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

MIKETOW wrote:

Thanks, guys. A lot of great answers here. The the reason I am concerned about the rage is because it is baggage in a sense. I mean, I know it is natural and is a normal phase, but happiness and inner peace are what I’ve strived for my entire life (as we all have). But I think I’ll just go with the flow and let things take their natural course. The rage will subside when it does. My problem is that I can be a very impatient person sometimes. I like to see immediate results and I expect a quick fix a lot of times. But the answers here have helped a lot. Thanks again, y’all!

So, you have baggage? Baggage is normally things that become an issue in a dating relationship. Beyond that, it is just what you carry around. One thing that can help is realize you can rig the scoreboard in your life, give yourself more time on the clock, and more.

In regards to happiness and inner peace, maybe you can try the path of NOT striving to get those. A lot of that comes from NOT doing and letting things be.

In regards to a “fix”, it only can happen when it happens. If you don’t have a good how to, then it won’t. And you need to have things in a natural being. There are techniques, but I believe you need more of a positive reason to use them, than just NOT being. Try to embrace something, not just what NOT to be. One nasty thing that happens when you get into failing to NOT be something is you end up focusing on it, and you produce it more. Part of a reason why I end up saying to NOT define yourself in relation to even avoiding women, or opposing feminism (or opposing anything SJW) is the being the opposite makes you defined AS that.

Anyhow, what you can do, is just focus on moments that are good and know them. Filter out bull that will set you off.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

Dude I had a red pill rage for years but the thing was I was fighting it and considering I had other mental health issues it didn’t help either. My advice is to not hold back if you feel angry. Go hit a punching bag which helped me channel my anger. Now I’m no longer angry and things just roll off me.

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