Were the women of the past different or was it just society?

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Women were never different.
My gradma used to say:
“you and you’re friends'(a.k.a boys) only purpose in this world is to work”

She told me every adult man that i see was a pedophile/evil man that wants to rape/kill me.
She told me every teenager(male of course) is a drug addict that wants to inject me with drugs.

And don’t even get me started on my other grandma or my grand grandma..

[Anonymous 11]

The women are the same throughout history. I agree totally they just express themselves differently according to the external environment.

Allow me to use an oyster analogy. The species of oyster is the same from the Gulf coast of Texas all the way up the Eastern US seaboard. Most of these oysters have thick shells and more rounded shapes. The ones in my region have vastly thinner shells and are less wide. They are renowned for their salty taste. The only difference is the chemistry of the sea water here is what makes the same oyster express itself differently.

Modern women are what they are due to cultural differences.

I’m also reading research about the hormone mimicking pollutants in our environment possibly having an impact on us. Are the chemicals we use like BPA, an estrogen mimicker used in plastics, responsible for creating manginas?

I think there’s something deeper going on needed to explain the changes in men.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

The feminist book The Feminine Mystique set a lot of this off and exposed how unhappy wives really are and neglected to show how unhappy husbands are. (Because who gives a damn about men)
Women want to get married and have a princess party and show off the ring and brag about getting married and have a honeymoon period, but the vast majority of women don’t want to be wives.

“Till death do you part “is bulls~~~ .

Till death do you part probably goes against human evolution.

Good for raising children up to adulthood. But adulthood was probably about 15 years old for a large part of human evolution so changing partners at least once or twice was probably the rule rather than the exception.

Women only want to fulfill their evolutionary biological imperative.

Pass on their genes. And to Hell with any consequences. Was much simpler on the African Savannah.

Yup the 7 year itch makes having a “Till death do you part” husband a real drag.

At the beginning of even a sincere relationship a woman lusts for you.(Women confuse lust with love) After a while lust wears off.The thrill is over. In very similar ways to the cycle of drug addiction .

The body/brain develops a resistance to dopamine and a new thrill is required.

Just like with a cocaine addict, a tiny amount just doesn’t do it anymore.Gotta have more and more. The drug addict never stays satisfied forever.(just like a woman ) Gotta try heroine or speed or opium.

It’s a cycle.

First

I wanna get married.

Then

Naa I don’t like this this s~~~.

Then
marriage is oppressive.
Then

Hmm that guy
And then
if you want the pussy put a ring on my finger.
Then naa I’m not happy.

Show me a happy wife and I’ll tell you to go find the suckers she’s using as emotional tampons that she is complaining to about her husband, her life,the money, the house etc.As women have always done. Women

Women not happy and acting all kinds of crazy? It’s no surprise if you understand women.

Reminds me of something I saw in a zoo.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22584]

Franky wrote:

My gradma used to say:
“you and you’re friends'(a.k.a boys) only purpose in this world is to work”

She told me every adult man that i see was a pedophile/evil man that wants to rape/kill me.
She told me every teenager(male of course) is a drug addict that wants to inject me with drugs.

Someone poisoned that woman’s mind when she was young. To the point she became a sexist bigot towards men.

My paternal grandmother was a sweet woman. She was kind to everyone I knew. And those I talk to whom knew her when she was child said she was kind even then. She was not controlling person. And she encouraged those around her to be better, but in a positive way. Her husband, my paternal grandfather was a good man.

I do not think a woman like her could be raised in this age. To much poison from society and social groups. But, I do consider a privilege to have known her.

[PacifistParticipant 143]

To put it concisely there have been no major evolutionary changes in men or women in the last 10,000 years.

A woman’s default state has “always” been like that.

However western society and religion have for hundreds of years suppressed some of those attributes. Or at least forced people to hide them from others. If there’s one thing Christianity was good at it was forcing feelings of guilt on people at a young age and maintaining that feeling throughout adulthood. You can argue whether it’s healthy or not but the results were a more stable society.

So women were always like that. However society and impressed guilt prevented many from acting on it or at least acting on it openly.

EDIT: One point I’d like to make is I currently believe approximately 13% of marriages are “Happy”.
One hundred years ago I’d have said that number was probably 20% but I think the major change has been the number of content marriages. I’d say the current numbers are about 18% but 100 years ago it was closer to 50%. This change was mainly due to increased female expectations that they’re all princesses.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Faust For Science wrote:

Someone poisoned that woman’s mind when she was young. To the point she became a sexist bigot towards men.

And let me guess someone else poisoned the other person’s mind that poisoned her mind?
And where did this all come from?

Make no mistake, women aren’t c~~~s because feminism and all this misandric propaganda exists.
Feminism and all this misandric propaganda exists because women are c~~~s.

[chirParticipant]

For hundreds of years it has always been about women’s desire to manipulate and hold power over men. This is a quote from a woman discussing courtly love in the medieval time period of 1560. Yes, the f~~~ing 1500’s…

Quote:
don’t we see that men’s rightful task is to go out to work and wear themselves out trying to accumulate wealth, as though they were our factors or stewards, so that we can remain at home like the lady of the house directing their work and enjoying the profit of their labors? That, if you like, is the reason why men are naturally stronger and more robust than us — they need to be, so they can put up with the hard labor they must endure in our service.

Western women today are simply more “in your face” about their desires. Same s~~~ forever.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22584]

Franky wrote:

And let me guess someone else poisoned the other person’s mind that poisoned her mind?
And where did this all come from?

Make no mistake, women aren’t c~~~s because feminism and all this misandric propaganda exists.
Feminism and all this misandric propaganda exists because women are c~~~s.

If you remove restrictions from a section of society. Most of those among the group will become corrupt hedonists. Some will rise to the occasion and better themselves.

And I am not just talking bettering oneself with education. There are still some women that are not misandric. There are a few women that realize how good they got it and they do not wreck it. Some of the women are part of the group of women that have no divorced their husbands, and whom like their husbands and treat their husbands and their children like people. These women are the exception and not the rule, but they exist, or civilization would have already collapsed.

But, when you remove rules from part of the population, that part will become corrupt.

Everyone has an inner jerk in them. No matter their jerk. But, as others on this thread have pointed out, people can better themselves.

Still, I feel like I am in an inversion of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Though, I am the mature one. With everyone else becoming beasts to escape the pain of being people.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Faust For Science wrote:

And I am not just talking bettering oneself with education. There are still some women that are not misandric. There are a few women that realize how good they got it and they do not wreck it.

You may spit it out as many times as you wish,
you may twist it and turn it in as many ways in your mind as you want,
you may deny it as many times as you want,
and it will still be there red as blood.

Shall we try again or are you too tired for today?

There are no Nawalts buddy.

I’m surprisingly fine living with the thought that some of you may never get it.(it has always been the hardest one to get so i don’t blame you)

Faust For Science wrote:

These women are the exception and not the rule, but they exist, or civilization would have already collapsed.

Look at that snake on your avatar.
Civilization has collapsed countless times already.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Sorry to prick your balloon but trollops were just as greedy and toxic in the past as they are today.

[Anonymous 54]

When i was a kid my parents got divorced. This was not the norm back then. The other nieghbor kids wernt allowwed to play with us because of it.I think underneath it all women had allways had the potential to be evil. Now they dont even bother to hide it.I think eventually this will be there down fall,when even manginas and white nights will see the reallity.

[HitmanParticipant]

And holy f~~~ Tower on that Demon c~~~ you posted.

i was thinking the same thing !
her outside matches most of their insides.evil.
female nature has always been the same.
they are chameleons,but with FANGS like mgtower’s pic..
EVE,the first woman screwed up PARADISE.
and they are all like that.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22584]

Franky wrote:

There are no Nawalts buddy.

I did not say there were. Though, I feel our definition of “AWALTS” is a little jaded.

People vary in how much they left their natural tendencies control themselves and their lives. Sometimes the influence is a little, sometimes the influence is a lot.

Franky wrote:

Look at that snake on your avatar.

Yes. It is an ouroboros. It represents the passage of time and events. I picked that one because it folds on itself in the symbol of infinity, and symbolizes that events can repeat infinitely. Events can repeat. Events will not necessarily repeat themselves.

Franky wrote:

Civilization has collapsed countless times already.

Our definition of collapse is clearly different. We are collapsing as a civilization. But, not fully collapsed. A fully collapse is when the fuel stops being refined. The factories all shut down. The farms stop producing food. And we see a mass break down of civilization into violence by starving populations of people due to food riots. That is what I mean by fully collapsed.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

They were.that same back then to that.only difference was back then we didn’t have thoses anti male.laws and they couldn’t screw men like they do now, but back then they were that same they would married that best.provided

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Sadly, it is the concept of freedom that got women to who they are. They were allowed to become people like “Maria Jose Cristerna”. The same can apply for guys too, which is why a lot of them have become cucks.

I remember watching a scene from the Marlon Brando film On the Waterfront, and I noticed in the comments that someone really liked it, that it would have been better if people were simple instead of extravagant and flamboyant everyday, all day back in the 1950s and 1960s.

This is what democracy is, unfortunately.

[Anonymous 8]

While I am not old to enough to say with any certainty, I do not believe women have changed, they have merely revealed their true nature.

Society however has changed. There is a theory known as Cultural Marxism which accurately explains many of society’s current ills, while some tout it as a conspiracy theory I believe it holds water. The only real question in my opinion is who is responsible and what do they stand to gain.

Here is a link to a brief definition: http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

Here is another link to a documentary on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdBuK7_g3M

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

I think they were the same back then but society had hypergamy brakes installed. Now that the brakes are removed you get what female nature really is. We are mammals,every class of mammals have matting tragedies,we are no exception.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[SpacemonkeyParticipant 1481]

The problem with nostalgia is it is not what it used to be.

Its all too easy to look back with rose tinted glasses and see a version of the past where A line skirted all American moms stayed home and baked apple pies and took care of junior while the lantern jawed pipe smoking man went to work to bring home the bacon and everyone was happy and smiled all the time. Those images of the past we see in movies and TV ads of the time never actually existed in the same way the present day movies and TV ads don’t represent the current reality.

The truth is neither people nor society have changed so much, people still have the same motivations they always have and society is still run by the same forces.

“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

People didn’t change much? c’mon now…
I agree that negative memories go down the memory hole, but statistics don’t lie. Women didn’t use to to get married five times and bring up children on their own, or f~~~ around until 35. It wasn’t the same back in the day

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I know a woman in 40’s taking care of her husband who is more than 25 years old, this was more than a decade ago. She worked full time as a waitress and paid the bills obviously since he older my own father who could barely walk.

My step mom was a hard worker. Without being asked she worked in factory and she worked harder than anyone else. She only would take the lunch break to eat she rarely took the 10 minute breaks required by law. My father told her to quit and the company begged her not to quit.
She was a lousy step mom who didn’t like us however she was a great wife. She would cook and clean until everything was spotless. She would never f~~~ around like women today. My father would wake her up in the middle of the night after a night of drinking to prepare him some food.

One day i asked her how can I find a woman like you. Her response is probably never and she told me look at your own sisters they aren’t even close close to me.

Both men and women aren’t like my parent’s. Since I’m originally from south Korea I still have traditional values. Not with marriage, though. Unlike my cousin who used to sleep around with many women and brag about to me. At the same time claiming he is Christian and talks about god.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

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