Were the women of the past different or was it just society?

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

I see how few of the men who are starting to wake up to the redpill want a nawalt woman. They mention women of the past generations being different to men being more submissive to men. Well i do know that in the past expectations in society was different (meaning you could not divorce your husband without dying in poverty unless you have a legit reason) but were women of the past actually different? or was it just their society at the time?

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Women being different is a delusion.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

I think in the movie, “my big fat greek wedding” said it perfectly. Something in the lines of that the wives were the necks of the husbands in a traditionalist family.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[Anonymous 42]

Shame and dishonor is out the window now, they were different back then. I witnessed the last of the unicorns when I was little, when boys looked like boys, and girls looked like girls, society sure had a different look, a look I trusted and liked. Now we have this: “maria jose cristerna”

No doubt about it, they were different then…

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

I will admit to being one of these men. I wished for a time gone by where women were more like what I imagined they were like in my Grandparents era. I fantasized about the NAWALT. When I was dating, I convinced myself she was a NAWALT. People always say it is wrong to lie to others … it is more wrong to deceive yourself. MGTOW, Peace.

[Anonymous 42]

Before and after, just like our society starting 50+ years ago…

[Anonymous 3]

You can take a woman out of misandry, but you can never take the misandry out of a woman.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I think both played a factor. I think the women were definitely different because they all weren’t raised at feminists. I think if you go back several generations people were raised with the understanding that men and women were different. I also might be biased here…but most of the older folk I know grew up with a life style that would be considered poor by todays standards and without social media, so I think women were actually capable of being satisfied and not always wanting more to keep up with the Jones’s. I know both my grandmothers for example were perfectly content with their little houses and a car that just runs…they never complained about not having a McMansion, a Mercedes, or a mountain of jewelry.

I also think the rules of society being shaped over the years to so heavily favor women also plays a large role in why they are so f~~~ed up today. Back in the day if they wanted to successfully raise a family it was actually in their interest to find a good husband and try to keep him happy. These days all they have to do is find any random guy with a decent pay check and the courts will make sure she is taken care of. The legal system essentially hands women a huge amount of power over men in many ways and just assumes they won’t abuse it…but I think we all know they love abusing it. Basically if our divorce laws and legal system enables and empowers them to be nasty gold digging c~~~s…I’m just not surprised at how many women are nasty gold digging c~~~s…if the system were actually “fair” they might realize their best way to get ahead in life is to find a good guy and treat him well like it was a few generations back instead of f~~~ing men over via the government being the easy way to success.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Just like people like to think that in the past there were fewer gay people in the past.

The fact is people hid their sexuality because of social and legal pressure.

Yea sure a lot of women acted submissive. It’s a lot less stressful when you can go home after work and not have to hear the woman screeching.

I would much rather a person behave as they really think and feel over someone deceiving me.

Woman can act just as crazy as she wants just stay the f~~~ away from me.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

It seems to me that our country went downhill after women’s suffrage. Once women began voting all of these feminist laws into power, our country went downhill.

In the past, a woman would stay married because she would be impoverished if she left her husband. Women were happy taking care of their family. Now days, a wife doesn’t care about her husband, apart from his assets and earning power.
It seems like women are angrier now than they used to be.

[guiParticipant 825]

I guess they always had it inside them but now they are worshipped so much that they don’t feel the need to hide the evil no more.

In think the greatest power Humans have is that their can fight their nature to became better people. You can’t change differences between the genders but you can try to be a better person or at least a less s~~~tier one.

Women enjoyed god like power in society for so much time they don’t care about becoming better people not even a little bit. It would take SO many years to undo the damage that as men we are better off breaking the system and living for ourselves.

I guess I will never know for sure but what I know is that living in my own way is the only way to survive this.

Pity and contempt are siblings. You only feel pity for those you consider weak.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

No, women in the past were not different, they just where more furtive.

Because a woman couldnt just divorce a husband without a very good reason or suffer societal pressure, women were sneakier, f~~~ing the milkman, repair man, hell the nextdoor married man or woman, neglecting and beating the kids, and would shut up when the husband were home because it was easier to maintain an ilusion of happiness aka more money and when the husband wanted sex they had two options.

The i have a headache or just give in and give lousy, missionary sex with the lights off.

They’re nature has not changed, this days society just took the restraints off the beast and now the beast can show the world here true colors.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Female sex evolved to be c~~~s by nature.
Back in the day their c~~~iness had little chance of flourishing (or suppressed by the evil patriarchy – or a combination of two), but feminism and technology has liberated their c~~~iness, and empowered them to become massive unrestrained c~~~s.
So they went ahead and do what they’re evolved to do best – acquire resources and protection by manipulation and deceit, and access savage male genetics for reproduction

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 42]

gui wrote:

It would take SO many years to undo the damage that as men we are better off breaking the system and living for ourselves.

@gui, we’re not breaking the system, it’s already broken, we see the dynamics of the destruction and by logical deduction we have assessed the best thing to do is get as far away as possible as to avoid the bomb fragments!

[Anonymous 24]

Funny, the countries that we demonize, invade, and destroy do not have these problems lol But the White Knights keep lining up to do so.

[Anonymous 11]

Society was way different as a whole. Sluts were not celebrated and no fault divorce did not exist.

My mom was 43 when she had me so I got exposed to many women who were older. They were both different and the same. They still would get overly emotional and some would henpeck men. However, they could cook, tended to be more feminine, and were less prone to cheat.

Also, a man 70 years ago had a very good chance of marrying a virgin who would be a faithful partner as compared to a modern tatted up 23 year old sporting the thousand c~~~ stare.

Society, women and, men have changed and not for the better. MGTOW has fertile soil.

[InfernalShadowParticipant 377]

I don’t think women were different in anyway back then. I just think they were so used to being held ACCOUNTABLE back then that they had to hide their true nature from their husbands in a traditionalist society. And once divorce laws actually turned over to their favor they still stayed with their husbands because they were too old, too set in their ways, and have already hit the wall.

Think about it. If those so called “old NAWALTs” were back in their 20s again, do you really think they would stay married to their husbands? I certainly don’t. If anything, they would all act like the Kim Kardashians and Snookies of the world if they had that choice.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10973]

I agree with Hellraider, the women haven’t changed. In the past, they just had to be sneakier because the behavior was not accepted. Now their behavior has become more accepted so they’ve peeled away the costumes and masks. No sense in hiding one’s true self when there are no penalties or punishments for becoming exposed.

She's not looking for love. She's looking for someone to finance the lifestyle that SHE thinks SHE deserves.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I’d say it was more society. Men were more NEEDED. Who is going to plow the field without a tractor? Oh, you want to do that? Something that takes 18 hours to do? NO? Then a man will do it, and if you p~~~ him off, cheat on him, or complain about how hard you have it when you aren’t plowing the fields for 18 hours, then you can f~~~ off.

Women would have died in poverty, been shunned, excommunicated, ect. Society has different expectations for women, but the same expectations for men. We are supposed to fill our age old occupation of work horse, while they aren’t expected to do anything that they did before.

There was also more pressure from other women to fall in line. You cheated? Branded and put in the stocks and made fun of, humiliated. There was greater expectation all around for men and women. Women have had expectation lifted from them.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6437]

There are no unicorns or nawalts. Having said that, I believe a rare ‘blink of an eye’ in history temporarily resulted in a small scattered number of slightly more pleasant post-Woodstock era females between the late 1960’s and early 70’s. This fleeting phenomenon ended around 1973 and hasn’t occurred since. It will never happen again.

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