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Well stated, Brian.
Well put Doc and Brian, and I would like to try to condense the contents of your recent post(s) (and the essence of this portal) further to Marc by saying just these three words: relax, patience, grace. Correct me if I am wrong people, but aren’t these the three things which in part (some of us quicker than others)we are all gradually learning and developing through our very communication itself in here..? And we have every reason to be patient when it comes down to the development of this ideology in a rather moderate and gradual pace as well, since there already are a few and quite enough youtube videos out there that lead more and more people here, if they choose to, so what’s with all the rush..? Relax and enjoy the sort of grace in which we are comfortably moving on. Besides rushing things forward too quickly (and thus too obviously) could even turn out to be a mistake in conjunction with a quick shut down attempt for instance… Ever thought of that, Marc…?
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
Thanks Doc! Your post appeared to me right after I submitted mine, and it looked like we were of the same mind. Funny that we posted at the same time as well, eh?!
Anonymous42@marc the Sharc I’m going to open my piehole here, F~~~ Incorporation! Be individuals striving along like wild mustangs. Incorporating is building a structure, and structures do not hold individual interests at heart. Corporations collectively corral the stampeding mustangs over a cliff! F~~~ that! This Mustang has gained the ability to leap over the highest of corporate corrals, when trapped, this mustang bites, kicks, and fights to live FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was an elected C.E.O. of a non profit corporation, corruptions are culmination of corruptions upon corruption… to the point of no return!!!!
I will not be bridled, mounted, or ridden; any attempts to do so, will result in my bucking, kicking, biting, and stomping!
Try to corp. MGTOW, haaaaaaaaaa, yea right! Don’t be offended, we shoot straight here, so don’t get upset at that hole between your eyes! That’s for the pussy-puss to drain out! Cheers!
Well Marc, I’m back…. see what I mean. While I think your intentions are noble, MGTOW just doesn’t work that way. It is Men Going Their OWN Way, not men going this one way. You have great ambitions and I wish you all the luck and good stuff you can get. Yet another good reason to not incorporate is then it would give our enemies a target, and we don’t do that. Like Soulman said, we are a guerrilla force, we play by our own rules.
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
Perhaps the “problem” in the OPs original post is symantic in nature? I can only surmise so….the very essence of MGTOW is the antithesis of an organized well-defined collective. Correct me if I’m wrong. I suppose with the right marketing and effort a wheel and rudder could create a cohesive “corporation” organized to “spread the word”. However that opens up a Pandora’s box as I think others have pointed out and supported with their own experiences. I think MGTOW is more defined as a social phenomenon resulting from a volatile misandric society backed by the full weight of big daddy government. Nobody here is stopping anyone from “organizing” this social phenomenon. However, organizing MGTOW is a slippery slope at best as has been pointed out. We are NOT like them (feminist). I think an organized corporate structure is a first step to making us just like them (feminist) and this is not a good thing in that context. YMMV…
However, having said that I did have this thought a few weeks ago; How could “someone” more effectively market MGTOW to the public at large while maintaining the nebulous nature and spirit of MGTOW? I’m not sure about the solution. Pehaps others here have viable thoughts on the subject. However, just imagine a huge LED billboard on a major metropolitan freeway in a huge urban population center (like Dallas where I live). Now imagine the billboard has nothing but the yellow MGTOW road sign and the letters “M.G.T.O.W.”. That would generate a great deal of curiosity, lead men to the “red pill” without forcing it on anyone, generate buzz, and raise awareness. I’m sure it would probably have a few unforseen consequences as well. I already looked in to the cost of renting a billboard and the cost IS astronomical by most individual’s standards and financial means. This is where the need for an organized vehicle comes in (with the requisite cash and caveats). How is this accomplished? I don’t know. I don’t have the answers for that. Perhaps someone can make George Soros our useful idiot by gaining access to one of his leftist donations to pull this off! Of course that option opens a whole other can of worms!
(The George Soros idea is obviously “tongue in cheek” in case that needs to be pointed out.)
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...I have left informational “business cards” on posting boards and in public bathroom stalls. Sometimes I’ll tape up leaflets on the door as well. What do guys do in the can? Read graffiti. And the more offensive, the better. Now picture sitting down and seeing a whole page of mgtow quotes, like “Female anger is the weathervane of truth” and “mgtow.com” tabs hanging at the bottom for the taking. And especially nowadays, out comes the smartphone right then and there and he’s on this page. And he knows he’s in a private place where he can read for a bit. Yeah, it’s crude using the restroom to spread your message, but if it would have come to me like that, I’d have been a lot more informed a lot sooner!
@brian K
Excellent ideas there man!
So if anything I think we can distill one question from this thread/subject: How can MGTOW be effectively “marketed” to society at large to raise awareness without the traditional backing of a corporate style entity (controlling) backing it? Quite the conundrum I would say. Has this type of thing been done before?
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...@ Soul Man: actually yes it has (and again with feminism), although I don’t know whether or not that was the more or less original / initial approach (from the rest rooms I mean) but by now you can see stickers like that in the rest rooms (as in unisex ones) on the premisses of some dirty clubs. Then again if it wasn’t the original spread of it then well there could be a case and maybe even an argument against having it incorporated eventually, because you could always (facing some stupid chief exec in a “business meeting” regarding this subject) go like: “Sir, you don’t honestly intend to incorporate something, that has been initiated from the toilet cubicles now or do you…? Even though quite typically being known for turning s~~~ into gold I mean, why take that risk to prove just this very stereotype cliché of yours right..? It could really backfire some day like a boomerang so please do think about it again…”
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
@Ned
Yeah the overwhelming 800lb gorilla of incorporation means that the message must be distilled and controlled which is absolutely contrary to the phenomenon of MGTOW. On the surface it kind of falls along the lines of “the dark cannot exist in the light”. I think that rings true at the core of MGTOW as well. When money enters the picture then control holds the briefcase containing the money. The two are inseparable IMHO.
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...Yeah, I know what you say Soul Man (the big money issue and all), maybe I was just naively fantasizing a bit (and with a slight pinch of humor)…
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
Anonymous11I am a MGTOW virus moving throughout my male social circles injecting MGTOW DNA into their brain cells. I am the ephemeral shadow in the night haunting the feminists until they go insane. I am a hunter of vag worshipers to show them the error of their ways by the way I live my life as a MGHOW.
Trust me Ned…I fantasize about MGTOW being EPIC in our society. Nothing would make me happier. Maybe we just have to keep the faith that the animal is uncaged now and will never be caged again. The Grand Canyon was carved by billions of tiny raindrops that bulit momentum and literally moved the earth. Perhaps we will do the same by unplugging one by one from the matrix of misandry.
Personally if I had the financial resources I would do my own thing and scream “VIVA LA MGTOW!” from every billboard and TV commercial I could afford. That would be going my own way without having to answer to a corporate board of directors! I guess a guy can dream….
I’m not a smart man but I know you can’t bottle lightning…
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...All I ever meant to say is that we need to further MGTOW and spread the word to the masses. The few thousand members here is pathetic and the owner needs to do a better job with advertising. I am here to start a revolution and nothing will be done typing away on a f~~~ing computer.
Hi Marc. This isn’t Dianetics and we are not L.Ron Hubbard. And neither are you.
Who are you trying to convince? US? Or yourself.I’m assuming you got my lengthy and detailed reply last night. But since you put it like that…
Here it is. Click here to check it out.
That represents what happens with the cultural awareness of MGTOW on Labour Day weekend, 09.01.2014.
Up 1300%- dwarfing ALL previous awareness of MGTOW to date – overnight.It came as a result of /video/hypergamy-doesnt-care/
That wasn’t done by “typing on a f~~~ing computer”. That was done with raw skills, creativity and talent – and no advertizing or funding of any kind. 3.5 weeks in production for which we were not paid a single penny. That’s a MGTOW revolution and revelation right there. Nobody who ever “typed” about “Hypergamy” or “MGTOW” ever accomplished that since “MGTOW” appeared on the radar.
That is MGTOW compared against a men’s rights FUNDED organization that collects money to promote MGTOW Men’s awareness and exposure. They are on the down slope and MGTOW has exploded into the stratosphere. You never get to pretend to know what we “need” to do again. Because MGTOW isn’t a f~~~ing sales pitch. If you read the FAQ, we got emails telling us we set feminism back 6 decades. All that funding, marching, slutwalking, meetings, laws passed, billions of dollars in support and government involvement…. and a handful of guys at ONE website that doesn’t even advertise set feminism back 60 years?
Wow. MGTOW for president. Because “hope” is not a plan… and we get things DONE.
Now, if you want to tell us what we need to do, you can write us a great big f~~~ing check. You can also walk up to any house and tell the family sitting at the table they don’t live there anymore – if you pay them enough. Throw in another 6 months in a hotel and they will move out on the spot. You want to do a better job with MGTOW? Make us an offer simply can’t refuse. Because unless you do, and pay us for every hour we have worked, plus a premium to stop what we are doing, you are in no position to tell us we are not doing it right.
Thousands of members is not “pathetic”. We are the first of such a member-based MGTOW website ever! This has not been done before. It’s not even a FRACTION of the number of MGTOW, because only 1 out of 5 of the the most prominent MGTOW veterans on youtube joined here. And if you bothered to read the introductions, you would see men introducing themselves about how they were MGTOW before they even got here.
They already arrived on their own. They were MGTOW before they even knew it.
They were not “sold” MGTOW. It grows organically. It is a calling.If you’re trying to start a revolution…… you’re LATE.
We have already shown everyone what can be done withOUT funding – and money. So if you want other people’s money, you’re going to have to prove you can do better than the men who already did it for free.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous11As many of you have pointed out, we are an amorphous bunch with a hell of a lot in common. “Going your own way” is mutually exclusive of having a formal organizational structure which would quickly become politicized, compromised, and ineffective. It would give our opposition a single point to attack as hollowmile’s Sun Tzu quote so eloquently illustrates.
I’ll tell you what would happen if I organized a formal public MGTOW event in my town. First, it’d be a damn media circus and not to our benefit. Now, who is going to get the positive media spin a guy with an internet handle of ChauvinistPig and his evil minions or the poor little female victims of these MGTOW monsters. This little bunch of cute feminista protesters some of whom are advocating killing 90% of all men would win the PR battle. The local media would shred us and go out of their way to make us look very bad. They’d focus just on how we offended all of these special queen bee feminists. Then there would also be white knights and manginas lined up to kick our asses. The white knight reflex is so deeply ingrained in many men. Good God, white knights just love to defend those “weak” helpless women. FYI: I have a 110lb female cousin with a 4th degree black belt in some martial arts disciple that could kick my ass if I fought on her terms. She once f~~~ed up a guy who tried to rob her in a parking lot. Women are way tougher than white knights think they are.
I look at the spread of MGTOW as similar to how early Christianity spread organically on its own merit. It was not exactly popular to be a Christian in the Roman Empire and somewhat potentially hazardous to ones’ health. Of course, MGTOW is not a religion, but we are a force that grows in number every day organically. Why do our numbers grow organically, because gynocentrism creates the conditions for it to grow. I’m already reading more negative press in the mainstream media about the men’s rights movement as we are challenging the status quo. We are freedom fighters. We fight not by the violence as many crazed feminists advocate, but by going our own way and dropping out of a rigged game.
Great point ChauvinistPig!
For now at least it seems this is our best strategy as MGTOW; they (misandrists) can’t have a war if we (MGTOW) don’t show up for the fight because we are too busy disengaging and doing what makes US happy. WINNING!
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...A 501c3 tax exempt corporation is by lawful definition all of this.
The creator of a corporation is the State.
The State is the sole authority and sovereign head over the corporation.
The corporation is subject to the laws of the State which limits its powers.
The corporation has no constitutionally protected rights
The corporation is an artificial person.
The corporation submits to a State Charter declaring it is a creature of the State.
The corporation is created for the benefit of the public.
The corporation is a State franchise.
The corporation is a privilege granted by the State.
I don’t believe I have to worry about this but, the moment MGTOW goes 501c3 I will no longer wish to be associated with a group that yolks itself with the likes of these other groups. Here’s a list of other types of organizations who are 501(c)(3) tax-exempt non-profits:
- The First Church of Satan [www.churchofsatan.org]
- Planned Parenthood (Baby-Killers) [www.plannedparenthood.org]
- Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders [www.glad.org]
- Touchstone Local Council Covenant of the Goddess [www.tlcweb.org]
- The Secular Web (Anti-God Organization) [www.infidels.org]
- U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops [www.uscb.org]
- QCinema: Gay & Lesbian Internation Film Festival [www.qcinema.org]
- The Witches’ Voice [www.witchvox.com]
- Church of Scientology [www.scientology.org]
- Satanist Cult of Cthulhu [www.cultofcthulhu.net]
- American Atheists [www.atheists.org]
- Mormon Church of Latter-Day Saints [www.lds.org]
- Pagan Druids of CedarLight Grove [www.cedarlightgrove.org]
- Islamic Society of Corona-Norco (Youth Camp) [www.coronamuslims.org]
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I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
The scariest words he dropped were….
WHO IS WITH ME
Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ.
Even Forrest Gump just started running his own way. He didn’t try to convince anyone, ask to be followed, and when he finally made the decision “I’m tired. I wanna go home” his followers got all p~~~ed because they didn’t know what to do anymore. They were never really going their own way, they were going HIS way. That’s Marc the Sharc.
The local media would shred us and go out of their way to make us look very bad.
They can’t do that anymore. MGTOW is being taken seriously. A little TOO seriously in fact. “Is this a joke?” they are asking. Look & listen closer. Does it LOOK like a joke? Even when presented by Comic Bill Burr, he’s not f~~~ing joking. And neither is Chris Rock. They don’t laugh because it’s funny. They laugh because it’s TRUE.
Soulman said:
How could “someone” more effectively market MGTOW to the public at large while maintaining the nebulous nature and spirit of MGTOW?
Great word. “nebulous”. The nebulous nature and spirit of MGTOW is why it’s so profound and effective. One man can be stopped. MGTOW can’t.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous11@SoulMan – Thanks Brother. I enjoy your posts immensely.
@harpomason. Don’t worry, like the Internet was designed to do we MGTOWs would route around the damage.
Since Sun Tzu has been mentioned prior, here are two of my favorites from the master
1)Military tactics are like unto water; for water in its natural course runs away from high places and hastens downwards.
2)The onrush of a conquering force is like the bursting of pent-up waters into a chasm a thousand fathoms deep.#1- Is advising you to follow the path of least resistance to accomplish your goal.
#2- States that once critical mass has been reached. It will be unstoppable.You guys want to see an email that just came in this morning? This is why we are here. We can’t do any better than this:
Bring on the media and the mockery. Anytime they’re ready.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.- AuthorPosts
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