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Hello, my name is Marc and I am a new member to to MGTOW. I would like to propose the idea that takes MGTOW a step further in the right direction. The creator of this website, please email me if you have any interest after reading this —– personal @ contact . removed ——.
I want to make MGTOW a non-profit organization. This non-profit will have weekly meetings across every city state and country. In the meetings, we will watch sports, talk about cars, and other guy things but most importantly this club will act as a safe haven from the old lady. Basically I plan to unite men who are against their wives and ex wives, almost like a club. The members would include people just like you, married men who have had their pride stripped down to nothing, and divorced men who have had their money their children, their pets, their house all taken by the she-devil. In my short life, I really could not name one man who is truly happy with their married life, they are all shells of their former selves. Not to mention the millions of divorced men. I have much empathy for you guys, I really do.
Again, this non-profit would act more or less as a support group for such individuals but also would spread awareness to all those young men, around my age, who are contemplating marriage.
If you feel like you would benefit from said organization please email me.—– personal @ contact . removed ——
A lot of MGTOW aren’t interesting joining a club to unite against anybody. Simply dealing with ANY woman is problematic in the first place. Our primary goal is to live FOR ourselves. We recognize the f~~~ed up situation, but it is foolish to think we can change it. We will take direct action against none, only positive goals for us as men.
We get our complaints about women out of our system here, but that’s as far as it goes. The overwhelming majority want little to nothing to do with women. Some of us are worm out from life to this point. Enjoy what is left is a major motivating factor for most I’d say.
Sure you might get some of the newer MGTOW is vent with you as they start their journey, but don’t expect them to remain angry, there is better things to do with your time. But by all means you do whatever it is you have to do, I’ll be doing my own thing though. Good luck…
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
Not trying to p~~~ in your cornflakes cowboy but you’re talking about roping the wind.
The beauty of MGTOW is it is a NON-collective that is starting to have a cumulative effect on our dysfunctional society. The feminists and manginas can kick and scream all they want about MGTOW. However, at the end of the day there is no “organized” group, association, or central command for them to attack. Think of MGTOW as guerrilla warfare against a misandric society.
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...Marc, Marc, Marc. Really man? I think you are about 99 hours short of the minimum 100 hours of research I recommend to noobs dropping by here.
Had you done any study at all, you would already know that MGTOW is not a movement and the only organized sane thing about it is this website and four or five youtube channels. The beauty of it is very simple, so ListenUp!: KeyMaster has made it abundantly clear in more than 100 posts that the mgtow.com team is not being paid and they do this website as a public service in hopes of increasing awareness of men’s predicaments and hoping to save the lives of future generations. Dude, everything you want to see in your rosy glasses has already happened and you are behind curve little brother. KeyMaster and the team pay the hosting costs, traffic costs, and AFAIK there have been more than 17000 unpaid man hours logged by the team FOR NO PAY AT ALL. They are losing money to help thousands of men today who will in turn help millions of men in future generations. FOR FREE. So you are already sitting in the middle of the mgtow non-profit organization and you are not going to be able to donate and feel all warm and fuzzy inside while getting your f~~~ing tax right off. Early on while getting to know KeyMaster, I had to think about this a long time because I could not understand his lack of capitalism motivations in regard to mgtow.
Now, let me just say a few words about non-profit organizations. First, you need to watch a George Carlin video called “Never believe anything the government tells you.” Second, go study Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Machiavelli, Sir Isaac Newton, Tesla, Sandman, and the Mayor Of Mgtown. Third, read everything Soulman has posted on this website so you don’t kill yourself after reaching a new level of understanding earthy life lol. Fourth, understand this: all non-profits are a Capitalist Lie created as illusions for money laundering, nepotism, and general misuse of funds. Once you get a little further into your thinking process and improve your reasoning, you’ll see how stupid an idea you had even though it was well meaning. I’m not hating on you man. But I am laughing at how stupid an idea that is…..
Non-profits, bah!
Back in my corporate drone days, they used to send us forms to fill out annually for our taxes, benefits, retirement, and charitable donations. We were supposed to sign up with a nationally recognized charity. Our donations were to be automatically deducted from our paychecks, making it effortless and painless for ourselves, and ditto the taxes, benefits, and what else.
The charity had a private jet and its top executives made millionaire salaries. Also they had a reputation for turning donations for the cause of the month into office supplies and perquisites for themselves. Some of the causes they funded were not to my liking in the first place.
I was a sucker to sign up without first investigating — there are websites devoted to exposing these scams. Once I found all that out, I wrote zero in the box for my donation. I got some social shaming from the drone-in-charge-of-donations, but otherwise nothing came of it.
These days, I patronize thrift stores run by all-volunteer charities and am happy to do so. But I investigated them first.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
hey Marc
Smitty is right about us getting over the anger. When i first took the red pill it took me a long time to accept the truth of how things are in this misandric world but with time that passes. I now concentrate on myself doing the things i want and I’m happy.
Learn how the laws of your country affect you and take precautions to keep yourself safe. To me MGTOW is about keeping the government out of my affairs. It doesn’t mean keeping women out of my life but keeping myself safe from any allegations. It means working for yourself so you can minimize your taxes to stop feeding the system. It’s about using trusts and other financial structures to protect your wealth from women, government or any other financial predators that want to take your cash (you control your assets not own your assets). It’s about doing what makes me happy like going surfing, seeing family and friends, growing my business and helping people.
Good luck for your future.
Anonymous0The ultimate in disposing one’s troops is to be without ascertainable shape. Then the most penetrating spies cannot pry in nor can the wise lay plans against you.
— Sun Tzu (Sunzi) 500 B.C
@roy: f~~~ man I hear ya. This one NPO I was the front man for was just a old guy trying to get his very dumb semi-cute daughter out of the house so he gave her a “cause.” when I bailed on her and went to Thailand alone for a couple weeks, I returned to the US to find I had been kicked out of the organization of course. hahahahaha. She was already in the newspapers with my replacement.
@Hollowmile: damn very smart chinese dood man. high five!
Yeah, it sounds like you want to start a Boy’s Club for men… part hang out, part support group.
I don’t see a problem with men getting together to drink beer and talk about cars and sports… men do that all the time. And there may be some men who need a support group when dealing with ex wives, child support and lawyers and such. Totally understandable.
The three questions I’d have to ask myself are:
1) would I want to hang out in a clubhouse with all you guys on a regular basis
2) would I be willing to donate my money so that men could have a safe space to hang out
3) would I want to work, volunteer, participate in the administration of such an organizationMy answers are no, no and no. No offense, guys, it’s nice chatting with you now and then but I think I can go my own way on my own.
@ docfenderson: don’t have time to hang out anyway other than here man. working and getting money into the coffers while posting here. boy scouts was a long time ago man…..I remember all those stickin’ badges I didn’t need hahahaha.
Life only works when you know how to improvise.
what is with all the negativity? You guys are taking what I said way to literally, thinking it is a boys club for men? cmon now. This npo would be there to spread awareness to save those millions of men just like me who are contemplating marriage. You wouldn’t have to go to the meetings if you don’t want to.
All this is is taking this website to educate the masses. Getting the word out there that we as men are fed up and can’t take this bulls~~~ anymore.
My plans are to start a revolution. I cant believe this negativity. If I had that attitude, I wouldnt have reached any of my goals in the past
It is obvious that I won’t be able to further MGTOW so I will start it on my own.
We will never make a difference in this dysfunctional society if we do not unite as a whole and stand up for what is right. Do you want your kids to go through the same bulls~~~ as you?
We are lucky enough to realize that we don’t need women in our lives. But what about all those other poor saps saying “yes dear” for 50 years of their pathetic lives? If they had a concrete organization to become a part of, one they could see and hear in real life, they would be able to stand up to their she-devil and say “enough is enough you crazy bitch”.
Tides would eventually turn and the powers would again lie in the hands of men all around the world. It is a revolution I plan to start. And if you aren’t with me, I am sorry but there are millions and millions of men who will.
You wouldn’t ever have to go to the meetings if you don’t want to, we would have an online database just like this so you can communicate at any time you wish.
I am sorry you took what I said into thinking it is a just a support group
Listen up!….what I want to see has already happened? really? 17,000 people a part of their organization….That is barely enough people to fill up a small town
This negativity is the sole reason why Western society will never change. It is depressing to say the least
I understand it’s probably asking too much for new members to read through the existing threads… maybe there should be a summary page, maybe there already is.
In any case, one of the most common threads we have discussed here is the notion that you can not lead someone to MGTOW, they must find it themselves. We use the metaphor of the red pill for a reason… just like Morpheus, we are here, collecting knowledge and experience about the truth as we see it but we aren’t going around trying to unplug people and force those truths upon them. Like Neo, anyone who will have any chance to survive the revelation of those truths must come to that point of discovery and choose to accept that path of their own volition.
There is not and should not be an outreach arm of some hypothetical MGTOW organization going out to rescue young man like Baptist missionaries in the rain forests of Brazil. Not only can you not force the truth upon someone who is not looking for it, but they can do great damage to you if you try.
Start your own organization if you like… the great thing about MGTOW is that you don’t need anyone’s permission to go your own way… but I don’t think you’ll find much enthusiasm among the veterans here for proselytizing, no matter how well intended it may be.
All I ever meant to say is that we need to further MGTOW and spread the word to the masses. The few thousand members here is pathetic and the owner needs to do a better job with advertising.
It is selfish to think “this website has benefited me and we all like doing our own thing and that’s good enough” well you are the lucky ones who have realized you are able to go your own way and you don’t need a nagging bitch in your life to make you “happy”. Well there are millions of people who don’t know about this and probably never will because there isn’t awareness being spread about it.
The organization I will create will spread the word to the people, we will educate the people. Men talking to men. Spreading the truth.
Think about your children currently…going to school, being taught by women brainwashing them, getting home turning on the news, watching tv shows slamming the man, further brainwashing them, then they go to eat with their fatherless family, brainwashing again. It is a said cycle.
This organization would be there to help turn the tides. To put the power back in the hands of Men. Lets start something awesome. WHO IS WITH ME
Docfenders…there is clearly a misunderstanding and misconception here. You say these people do not need permission to go their own way? I am not here to give them permission
The whole point of my plan to spread the good word. I am here to educate the masses to let them know that there is a life outside of the bitch wife. That men all around the world are just like them and that it is okay to put that bitch in her place and tell her to f~~~ off.
Ive realized I am not wanted here. You people are fine typing away on your computers. Well I am here to change the way society treats us. I am here to start a revolution and nothing will be done typing away on a f~~~ing computer.
Good luck people and watch for my organization spread like wildfire.
Marc, you misunderstand me. I’m not saying people don’t need your permission to go their own way (although it is true they don’t) but rather that you don’t need our permission to go YOUR own way.
You’re welcome to stay or go as you please, nobody is rejecting you, just nobody wants to follow you or anyone else here, for that matter. You may call us selfish for going our own way and leaving other men to figure it out for themselves but maybe you just don’t understand that this is EXACTLY what MGTOW means, in my opinion.
If I had a son, I would teach him my values and then let him decide for himself. For my male friends, I will tell them my opinion of their actions and beliefs if they ask me (and be prepared to lose their friendship if they are too offended by what I say) but for strangers… I would do no more than look at them with pity. I wouldn’t even, as I have jokingly suggested here before, hand them a business card with the word MGTOW printed on it and leave them to find it themselves.
This is the truth as is see it: When a man is ready to find Jesus, he will find Him wherever he may be… in a mansion or in a prison, at the altar of a church or at the bottom of a bottle. But when a man is ready to go his own way, he simply goes his own way. It’s only AFTER that that he learns there are others doing the same. None of us discovered MGTOW by coming here, we found it in ourselves first, some of us years or even decades ago.
You may think of MGTOW as a movement or an organization but it isn’t. It’s just five letters that summarize the one value that all of the men going there own way hold in common.
@marc the Sharc, do you have any specifics to discuss, like specifically how to get the word out? I read the phrase “mgtow; man going his own way” on another forum and googled it, and found this place. That’s a really effective method, I think. Don’t so much say “You need to go here”, but rather something like “I would call myself a mgtow: man going his own way.” Then those who are curious enough and ready will find it out. Like someone else said, not everyone is ready for the truth, and the truth is not meant for everyone. This is why Jesus spoke in parables. Truth is meant for those who are ready for it, and we are often unable to decide just who that may be.
It might even sound cruel to a kind-hearted person to allow someone who is suffering to continue to suffer when we get to experience relief from it. But oftentimes that suffering is what they need to make them want to change. Like the alcoholic who can’t ever seem to get his s~~~ together, those who have recovered will tell him “Well, you just keep doing your thing, and if you’re still alive and want to change, we’re here for you.” Sounds terribly cruel, no? But if you drag that man into a group of sober people, and he’s not committed to being there, heart, mind, and soul, he’s going to waste everyone’s time arguing nonsense, feel rejected at not being able to connect with anyone, and possibly become so soured on the group that it will poison his future prospects of connecting with them and cleaning up his life. “The road to hell is paved with good intentions” so to speak.
BUT, you do support the idea of mgtow, and that’s a good thing. Now let’s talk about numbers. See, the idea of “majority rule” is a fallacy. Each of us is living our ideals, 24 hours a day. If the average feminist or SJW spends even 15 minutes supporting and furthering their absurd beliefs in some way, I’d be shocked. But our 24 hours a day of living as free honorable men is like 96 of their 15 minute chunks of “support” for their side; make it an even 100. So every soul here is 100 times as effective as our opposition. Or to put it another way, 1 of us is sufficient to counter 100 of them. I believe that is why they attack us with such vitriol. They know this to be true. They know raw numbers count for nothing. You’re a man, so you’re familiar with the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae. Same principle. A conscripted “soldier” or SJW, as it were, will never fight with the commitment and vigor as the opponent whose battle is an expression of his very own soul. So don’t let the enemy get you down. Arguing by the numbers is specious at best. You don’t need gallons of vaccine to cure a disease; a tiny syringe-full of the right stuff will do.
But again, do share some specifics and maybe some guys give them a try, share the successes/failures, and you may get something going. I don’t know if that’s the thing for me or not, but what’s the harm in hearing some ideas, yes?
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