Value of female companionship. Is it worth it?

[Anonymous 3]

I have never seen a woman make an effort in any type of relationship at any stage.

Not to start one. Women are completely incapable of that.

Not to escalate one.

Not to continue one and invoke good feelings on the partner–the definition of companionship mind you—they only try to take.

Not after one is over. Women show no gratitude or basic decency, instead tending to operate on a scorched Earth policy, as if every second of the relationship was pure hell for her and now she needs to be compensated and get revenge.

And going back to the former most point, since women make zero effort to start, ultimately men are always to blame for starting it. Especially the case when most women actively repel most men they run into, and it is only by means of extreme persistence that a man enters any type of “companionship” with said woman. Most men refuse to admit this and openly lie about it, similar to how women constantly lie about things.

Sometimes I wonder about this. Why does a man, who spent all his time obvious pursuing a woman, then turn around and claim to everyone else she pursued him and he was a victim of circumstance? It’s not believable to anyone, but the man stating this in his mind always fully believes it all, he truly believes women chase him and compel him and not the other way around. They will blatantly lie about it to each other and groups of men will back each other up on this ridiculous lie, despite it always being obvious it’s a lie, and they become extremely defensive if a man outside their circle or that is known for honesty mentions female advances on his own person.

As much as I dislike women, I don’t find a camaraderie or positive in the vast majority of men, who I believe are the architects of their own demise and hold no moral ground due to their own deceit and untruthfulness.

[Anonymous 18]

Women have evolved to manipulate men. And the biggest weapon in their arsenal is a man’s sexual drive.

By companionship she means don’t you want to stick your dick inside a hole.

Beyond which women are well aware that the remaining time of ‘their’ men is spent serving them. Hardly an aspiring thought or idea to sell to a man.

Its covert speak for “You do need to f~~~ a woman, don’t you?”

[Back in BlackParticipant 1732]

Is the value of the companionship of a narcissist with sociopathic traits that has an inherent tendency towards infidelity and self absorbed behavior with no remorse worth it?

Mother f~~~in SKY-O…..That’s a mic drop!!!

"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher

[Anonymous 3]

There is a lot of value in female companionship.

If you dont have this experience you cannot really appreciate being alone.

[trader1913Participant 1577]

When men talk about female companionship they are actually talking about validation. They like the validation they get from a woman gracing him with her presence.

I know a few men that have female friends, and I told them that its a waste of time. They say that these women are fun to be with. Then when they invite me to hang out with them they are typical c~~~s, but they are hot.

Most blue pill and some red pill men are still afflicted by the beauty of women; it clouds their judgement.

[Anonymous 3]

Actually this subject is very important, and I think Russky nailed it in another thread when he said:

Russky wrote:

Human memory is wired to only remember the good parts. That’s where unwarranted nostalgia comes from

During, or after a relationship, people get this “filter” and only remember the good parts, enough to look for it again…

People who never had a relationship “filter” what others say and only listen to the good parts, enough to pursue it…

We have to understand this human behavior. We must remember that we have a conflict between reason and desire, and in such conflict desire tends to win.

As social beings we do desire companionship. Therefore we tend to avoid rational arguments in conflict with a chance of getting it.

I started recording all my time with my wife, so that I might listen to it if I forget the whole ordeal and begin whitewashing it. I have yet to listen to anything, but knowing it is recorded makes me very aware of what she is saying.

My God! How can anyone endure that?

She spends 50% of her time making herself a victim, saying how tired she is, how hard it is, recounting every little thing she has done, and generally trying to make you feel bad and guilty.
The other 50% of time is to create havoc, either worrying about improbable stuff in the future or planning s~~~ that is always a bad idea, usually involving a lot of work (for me). Years later she will blame ME for that s~~~!

And amidst all this, she badmouths everyone. And listen to this, I specially enjoyed this pearl after hours of self-commiseration:

I can stand “red”. I hate people who are always playing the victim!
(Yes, she has nicknames for everyone.)

So, here is a sample of female companionship. Right from the trenches.

They are only appear a good companion during acquisition mode. And that is if you are blind as a bat (sex does that), because it is so obviously contrived…

[Anonymous 0]

I can tell you from my experience that as you age, the need for companionship diminishes.
As you enter your 50s and your “mid-life crisis” begins, it’s much easier to get that new sports car, motorcycle, or other hobby, if you don’t have to argue your case in front of a f~~~ing dictator for it. Plus, you’ll have more money to finance this new hobby.
As you enter your 60s, you start to value your peace and solitude more and more. Maybe you’d like to downsize your life and maybe high grade those hobbies to a few that appeal to you in your older years. I was talking to my dental hygienist about minimalism the other day. Her idea of downsizing their home (they’re getting older and their kids are grown) is to get her husband to buy a summer house on the bay and then buy a smaller home in town. This is the female companionship in full retard.

Another note: If you’re still married by the time you reach your mid-60s (and I know there is at least one MGTOW member in this situation 🙂 ), then you’re pretty much locked in forever. If you were to divorce at this late stage of your life, you not only lose half of everything that you own, you lose half of everything that you’re EVER going to own. It’s not very likely you’ll land another good paying job when you’re in your mid-60s.

[AttonParticipant]

Friends are better and all around better informed and more relatable.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 0]

Dogs are man’s BEST friend.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I can tell you from my experience that as you age, the need for companionship diminishes.

You just nailed it. In my 50’s and feel the same way. But for the record, I do value some females’ companionships. But I don’t want to live with another woman.

I have plans this weekend with a female friend. She’s a nice person, fun to be around, has positive energy, so we hang out once every few months. She’s also pretty easy to look at which doesn’t suck. But I have no intentions with her, it’s simply two old friends getting together. It could just as easily be a guy friend. And if she wasn’t pleasant to be around, I wouldn’t hang out with her.

Back to the OP, people in the matrix need validation that the matrix is the place to be. The need for everyone else to conform and make the same decisions they made is strong. Just do you and you’ll be fine. I think deep down they fear that they will soon be very jealous of your situation.

Order the good wine

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Darksense wrote:

I LOVE having the option to go to a quiet house after a long day at work if that’s what I choose to do.

That is the only thing that keeps me sane. After 9 hours of clucking hens quiet is golden. No thanks to any live in.

[Anonymous 11]

It really depends on the woman and most fail spec.

I do know of one I will occasionally have a lunch or dinner. She even puts away her smartphone.

As long as you’re not simping or being used as a wallet, it can be of some benefit to a man. You still have to deal with the hamster.

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

It’s been said before and I’ll post it again,

No such thing as female companionship.

[narwhalParticipant]

TaxGuy wrote:

I have plans this weekend with a female friend. She’s a nice person, fun to be around, has positive energy, so we hang out once every few months. She’s also pretty easy to look at which doesn’t suck. But I have no intentions with her, it’s simply two old friends getting together. It could just as easily be a guy friend. And if she wasn’t pleasant to be around, I wouldn’t hang out with her.

That’s along the lines of what I was thinking. Women can be fun to be around. Almost all the time though, they screw it up and decide they want more. Your other male friends would never do this to you, but a woman would.

As well, that good companion you have will disappear if she gets involved in a relationship. It’s only because she’s got nothing better involved.

I’ve had good female friends like that where there were good healthy boundaries that nobody crossed. I’ve had some friend where they pretended to have a boundary, but really wanted more. I’ve had some where we shared something fun in common and it could have been great, but she wanted more and it just couldn’t happen.

I had a woman friend where got along great….when we were drinking. She was a fun date, who was open and not hung on stupid things. Several times, we ended up in bed. The problem was that I couldn’t stand to watch sports with her. I didn’t want to talk with her at the pool when I was looking forward to reading a book. I didn’t want to listen to her jazz music or have wine and cheese. All those things were important to her and she wanted it all in one package. Kind of a waste.

Ok. Then do it.

[KevinStylesParticipant 2580]

The only value a woman brings to me is if she cooks and cleans its not that I can’t do those things, I just hate doing them. So if i’m in a dating/relationship mood first date we discuss her opinion of cooking and cleaning and if it’s a no to both then it’s a one date and done type of thing.

I used to have issues going out and doing things by myself, but now i don’t give a s~~~. Couples can judge me all they want, i get to go back home to a nice quiet house and roll around on the bed naked on my money.

[SolidParticipant 7520]

Companionship is good, but for that you have friends, your kids, family, a dog. You don’t need a woman or get married for that.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Women have soured the notion of even being companions, and they have no one to blame for this but themselves.

Men can handle being solitary more than women. We see this in biology.

If you want a true companion, get a dog. They will love you regardless of your situation.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[TaxGuyParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

As well, that good companion you have will disappear if she gets involved in a relationship. It’s only because she’s got nothing better involved.

True. And fine by me. I’ll put it this way. I have women who are my friends. My Good Friends are all men. Female friends come and go but men are friends forever. Bro’s before ho’s. That saying has stuck around because it’s true.

Order the good wine

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