Urgent advice needed

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  • #276317
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    Hewes
    Hewes
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    This is my first post and I am new to the forum. I wish I would have found this site earlier. If I did, I probably wouldn’t be in the mess I am now.

    I quite possibly procreated with the devil. I was finishing up my bachelors degree and getting ready to apply to medical school. She became pregnant by “accident”. She told everyone else but me. she waited to tell me until she was one month pregnant. I asked her how this could that happen? She was taking birth control and I was pulling out and giving her pearl necklaces. I interrogated her more and she admitted to not taking her birth control, and I assume she was stuffing cum inside her. Her controlling bitch of a mother told me it some kind of divine intervention! She told me we are supposed to get married and thats how it works. She said I needed a “push” in the right direction. I told her I did not want this and we needed to do something about it. She really went off her rocker. She said she would raise it on her own. She then said that it might not be mine and she was banging other people. She also told me how she would have sex with people for drugs. WTF? I went on her facebook and she had another life on there. I had no idea what a whore she was. Obviously there is no hope for us being together. The child was born in October of 2015. I was there for the birth incase the child was mine. After the child was born she wanted me to sign the birth certificate. I told her absolutely not without a paternity test. She got mad and asked me to leave.

    I went to her house, well her parents house, and came to talk some things out in a civil manner. My ex gf answered the door breastfeeding and asks me what I’m doing here, and her mother comes in between us and starts yelling and screaming in my face. I calmly told her want a c~~~ she is and f~~~ off politely. Expectedly, they call the police. I told them don’t try anything stupid you’re being recorded.

    I haven’t seen or heard from her since then. I got a letter in March from the florida department of revenue asking me to contact them. As of this past month there is a summons issued for me and I expect I will be served any day.

    I leave for medical school in Europe three weeks from now.
    I have no idea how this is going to work out. If the kid is mine I would like to be part of the kids life, but that wont be possible. Looks like I will be an ATM to a total bitch who ruined my life.
    If I make it to medical school in Poland without being served how will paternity be established? Should I try to dodge it? How long could I dodge it?
    I don’t have any income on paper for the last two years. I certainly wont be able to have any income in medical school beside school loans.

    If I am the father Im sure some income will be put upon me at the judges discretion and who knows how much backpay by then.

    It’s staggering how much money she will get when my income is significantly increased and I have to pay my student loans, taxes, insurance, mortgage,….

    Its making me wonder if going to medical school will be worth it.

    #276324
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    Anonymous
    25

    I leave for medical school in Europe three weeks from now.

    If you are outside jurisdiction then that will make it very difficult for them to touch you financially.

    Sounds like your trump card. If she wants to be a bitch and not let you see the kid, you can qualify in Europe and get a job in another country. Good luck for them getting any money out of you.

    Getting lawyers involved will get you no where. Playing dirty tricks back usually works best. Get some legal advices on where you stand financially in terms of being liable especially with regards to going to study in Europe and coming back etc.

    That’s your leverage.

    #276327
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    TaxGuy
    TaxGuy
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    My biggest piece of advice would be that, whatever your decision, you have to be able to look at yourself in the mirror every morning and go sleep at night with your thoughts. Don’t do anything that isn’t true to your character. THAT you will regret.

    Personally, I would want a paternity test. She already admitted that it might not be your kid. Hell, it sounds like it probably isn’t. If it turned out to be mine, then I would be there. If it isn’t, well then consider this the luckiest thing that ever happened to you.

    Without a paternity test, I wouldn’t feel bad about leaving. If she has a problem with the test, then she already knows that it isn’t yours. Where she screwed up was telling you that she was banging other guys. It makes it totally reasonable for you to demand a paternity test.

    Good luck.

    Order the good wine

    #276353
    +4

    Order a paternity test and see if the kid is yours (might be game over) because from what you said it is a high chance that its not. Maybe she see’s you as the better provider and is trying to stick you with the bill. Amazing how when she was pregnant she mentioned she would raise the kid alone and now is seeking state intervention to get your money,women are liars! If all fails get the hell out of dodge because you’re staring at 18 years of misery,leave the country to never return because they will fry you here.

    Never lose sight of what brought you here.

    #276357
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Welcome Hewes and wish I was saying that under better circumstances.

    But first, GET. A. PATERNITY. TEST. TODAY.

    And listen to this if you want to know why…..

    /video/vasectomy-baby-trap/

    You’re describing exactly the same thing. Exactly.

    She told me we are supposed to get married and thats how it works. She said I needed a “push” in the right direction. I told her I did not want this and we needed to do something about it. She really went off her rocker.

    Never let a woman tell you what you’re “supposed” to do.
    Especially when she tells you that you’re “supposed” to sign a marriage contract.
    You are NOT — under any circumstances — “supposed” to.

    You can also be creative, and this worked for me. Because it’s still legal in this country for a woman to allow herself to get pregnant without a man’s consent. ( Right? )

    … you calmly look her in the eye without blinking… and you say in the most calm and serious tone you can muster “OK. Maybe you will get my money. But you and your bastard child will NEVER see me again. Starting right now.”

    Then exit.

    When delivered properly, and she realizes you’re not kidding, and her little “plan” to trap you into a marriage contract has FAILED – and she will NOT be able to keep you around — and it sinks in that she will be on her own going forward with this s~~~…… you have just multiplied your chances that she will run out and get an abortion by the end of the week.

    — OR —

    If you’re up to it, you can roll the dice and play “loving future husband”.

    “OH Honey, I would LOVE to get married some day. But I can’t afford to give all the things you DESERVE to be happy. So why don’t we plan after I graduate / establish myself and we have lots of money coming in …. we get hitched then. And we will be better able to have a baby then too. Wouldn’t that be nice? I’ll take care of the abortion for now.”

    If she agrees you know it was a trap. If she doesn’t it’s STILL a trap. So that’s when you use the solution directly above. Tell her if that’s what she’s going to do, there is NO CHANCE IN HELL you will sign a marriage contract, you’re going to LEAVE, and she will never see you again.

    — OR —

    You can do what Leykis told a caller once….. “Whatever you do, do NOT invite her into the hot tub with champagne to “celebrate”. This can cause a miscarriage, and she could lose the baby! Repeat DO NOT do that. As quickly as possible”.

    It was CLASSIC.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #276376
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    Anonymous
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    I went on her facebook and she had another life on there. I had no idea what a whore she was.

    Document it! do screenshots, print it, put it in a good place. The child may not be yours. Do a DNA test on the child ASAP.

    She said I needed a “push” in the right direction.

    Begin recording everything that she or her mother says. it can be used to your defense. Even if the child is yours, there may be proof that she falsely told you taking birth control and pushing herself to pregnancy.

    After the child was born she wanted me to sign the birth certificate. I told her absolutely not without a paternity test. She got mad and asked me to leave.

    That maybe a proof that she f~~~ed with many people and the child may be not yours. absolutely do a paternity test.

    Do not try to “dodge” it by yourself and to just run away. In this case, she will name you as the father, and if you don’t oppose, it may stay like this. But I don’t know your laws there. Definitely get a lawyer to get you out of this s~~~.
    The lawyer can do a lot of things instead of you, while you are abroad in Europe. He can communicate with authorities, so the situation won’t look like as if you just ran away

    About the financial situations: there are strict financial rules here in Europe, every euro you get is recorded, no such thing as “off the books”. Don’t even attempt it, you will be prosecuted very fast. But on the good side, there will not be such thing as “income put on you by the judge”. The tax authorities here know, and can legally state with full power how much income you have, as a real fact. A judge should accept it. If you don’t have much income then that’s it. And, student loans are absolutely f~~~ing not a category of “income” here! Because, you know, you have to pay it back, you get it just temporarily. Look up the rules at the place where you go. Consult a lawyer.

    #276380
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    Jan Sobieski
    Jan Sobieski
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    Tell her that med school is off the table.

    She thinks she trapped a rich doctor.

    Once she knows your biology degree will get you a $15 an hour job as a technician at my pretzel factory. The baby will go away.

    Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

    #276384
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Once she knows your biology degree will get you a $15 an hour job as a technician at my pretzel factory. The baby will go away.

    Great point. Remember MegaChris’pregnant scare?? “I think I may be pregnant”. And she wasn’t … just to s~~~ test his ass. What a colossal bitch.

    If you don’t know and she can’t prove it either — don’t even speak to her until you know for sure. Don’t even let the woman play with your f~~~ing head. Deny her that. No discussion until you know it’s yours.

    THEN you pull out your arsenal.

    I am f~~~ing DONE watching women allowing themselves to get pregnant without a man’s consent, and then telling HIM what he’s “supposed” to do.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #276386
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    Anonymous
    42

    Strings left untied in the legal realm always come back to hang you, these baby shoe strings must be tied as soon as possible. If you run away making no objection and not giving answer, it could make her bad-boy bastard baby your legal child simply by court default.

    Walk away from this and you’re walking away from an air-born cast-iron boomerang!

    P.S. Get yourself tested, c~~~ carousel grease spreads far and wide.

    #276435
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    Wolf redpillman
    Wolf redpillman
    Spectator
    1658

    At least you did not sign that birth certicate other wise you would it be screw for sure ,

    #276448
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    Sidecar
    sidecar
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    She told me we are supposed to get married and thats how it works.

    Wrong. This is a decision that should be made by two people together, not just one unilaterally.

    She said I needed a “push” in the right direction.

    All she has done is push you away. And you are not going back.

    She also told me how she would have sex with people for drugs. WTF? I went on her facebook and she had another life on there. I had no idea what a whore she was.

    Document everything. EVERYTHING. Dump that on the judges bench in court.

    I haven’t seen or heard from her since then. I got a letter in March from the florida department of revenue asking me to contact them. As of this past month there is a summons issued for me and I expect I will be served any day.

    Get a good lawyer. Now. have the lawyer inform the court there is no possible way you are the father and insist on a paternity test. Refuse to everything until that happens. Even if ordered, refuse. Do not sign anything. They will ask for your passport. DO NOT GIVE IT TO THEM! Put it in a safety deposit box somewhere until you need it.

    Delay delay delay. Do not talk at all about attending medical school in Poland. Just go. Don’t look back.

    Have your attorney represent you on the case in your absence. And since you are absent they won’t be able to prove paternity with their test. They’ll have to rely on results you provide form a test done remotely in Poland, where you will have control of the results.

    She’s only doing this to you because right now you are her most lucrative prospect. Chances are once you are clearly no longer a prospect for her to leech off of she’ll give another name to the state of Florida and she’ll be his problem.

    And to the rest of you gentlemen, THIS IS WHY YOU GET A VASECTOMY.

    If you have a vasectomy, the moment she tries to tell you she’s pregnant, you can drop paper on her ass proving your sterility. Then you can kick her to the curb and walk away clean.

    #276450
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    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
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    Leaving the country? Dont come back.Just dont come back.She intentionaly got preggs without your consent.
    I would leave now before a judge confiscates your passport.Like now.

    Like noww!

    She was with you so she could get a paycheck.

    If you got her preggs by deception like putting a pin hole in a condom you could be in a lot of trouble but when a woman does it its always legal.

    Brother just leave.

    Escape the pussy trap and we will be chearing for you.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #276458
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    Hewes
    Hewes
    Participant
    13

    Thank you to everyone for your responses.

    I had a consultation with a lawyer and they said what will probably happen is a substitute service to my father. This will be my last know address before I leave the country. Or they might try to find me in Poland and serve me, but that would cost them some money.

    Any kind of paternity test will have to be court ordered and not voluntary on her side. That being said, the lawyer told me to avoid service and go to school so I don’t get a court date after I intend on leaving.

    I was contemplating the backpay situation. As far as I am aware the most they can come after me for backpay is 2 years. But I also heard that they can assume me the father somehow and arrears can start?

    Unfortunately Poland has reciprocating child support laws with the U.S. and I would like to come back to the U.S. to practice so I don’t want this to get too crazy.

    #276459
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    Anonymous
    11

    She then said that it might not be mine and she was banging other people. She also told me how she would have sex with people for drugs.

    Paternity test first which I think has a very high chance of you not being the father witness the fact she got mad when you wisely refused to sign the BC.

    Even if you are the father, this woman f~~~s other people for drugs. Ponder on that.

    #276470
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    MyCocaine
    MyCocaine
    Keymaster
    182

    High probability this kid is not yours. I’m listening to Michael Jackson Billie Jean right now. “But the kid is not my son”. Popular song back in the day. Huge. I wonder why.

    #276477
    +3
    K
    Hitman
    Participant

    Its making me wonder if going to medical school will be worth it.

    i think you should go to medical school for sure..
    right after you get that bitch to take a paternity test.
    that might fix the whole damn mess for you .
    hang in there and stay strong brother.
    we are all on your side !!!

    #276488
    +1

    Dont they have online DNA test? Swab the kids mouth and yours and send it off under the radar if you can get access to the kid. DNA test should be number 1 on your “dodging c~~~s” list. Dont go through the courts for the test or they gotcha!

    Never lose sight of what brought you here.

    #276550
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    BrainPilot
    BrainPilot
    Participant
    7640

    50 year old medical doctor here. If you are a pre-med student, your likely age would mean that I have been dodging women like the one you describe in your post since before you were born.

    I started to write a response, but it began to turn into a book that probably no one else here would care to read as your situation is pretty specific to you. But I saved it and may email it to you later through the webmaster here.

    For now, document all that stuff about her behavior re: drugs etc. It costs you nothing to get and keep that evidence, but may be enormously valuable later.

    Also, follow the lawyer’s advice. Do whatever you can to protect your pathway into, and through medical school. A medical degree and the career and salary that go with it are the only things here that have any chance of improving this situation for anyone involved.

    This girl is too stupid and chemically influenced to realize that the pregnancy she believes is a winning lottery ticket is very likely to reduce the actual payout to near zero if it creates such stress and distraction for you that medical school becomes impossible.

    There will be other idiots, addicts and parasites along the way who will have other plans for the rewards that your effort and ability will earn for you. Keep your focus on the goal line, which is board certification by an some American Medical Specialty board, and license to practice it in at least one American state.

    Dodge, avoid and ignore everything else that might have even the potential for distracting you.

    EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED if you hope to have any chance of crossing that goal line. More to follow.

    Keep us posted…

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

    #276554
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    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant
    35837

    Swab the kids mouth and yours and send it off under the radar if you can get access to the kid.

    Better plan: swab someone else’s mouth, preferably someone in Poland, and send that in for the DNA test. Send the results in to the court proving you are not the father. This is what I mean by keeping yourself in control of the results.

    In the meantime, yeah, do everything possible to avoid being served. Go to Poland early if necessary. Get the f~~~ outta Dodge. Stop answering the door. Stop answering the phone. When they try to serve you by proxy, make sure the person they try to drop papers on tells them you are attending school outside the country and cannot be contacted. If a court date is set despite that, have your attorney represent you in absentia. You know the date of the birth. Find proof that you were not present at the conception. Document the f~~~ out of her infidelity. INSIST ON A PATERNITY TEST. Control the results of that test (see above).

    #276597
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    Atton
    Atton
    Participant

    Your ignorance put you in this situation, don’t repeat the same mistakes.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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