Australia considering lower taxes for women, and higher taxes for men

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  • #835293
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    Eric Lauder
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    Very interesting in this era of gender politics.
    So if I’m a man (XY) but identify as a women (XX), would I be subject to the lower tax rate?

    What if I’m a women, who identifies as a man, who is pan sexual? Do I pay both the male and female tax rate…..lol

    This is exactly what happens when you f~~~ with social norms, play gender politics, destroy the nuclear family, and have multigenerational social handouts.

    If a gender based tax system passes, if they think male labour participation is poor now – just wait.

    I’m going to sit back and enjoy the decline.

    No and no.
    You won’t be allowed to identify as a woman: first problem.
    This is meant to improve women’s power within nuclear families: second problem.

    The two tradcucks who drafted the theory, Alesina and Ichino, didn’t consider single women and single men, they also didn’t consider lesbian couples and gay couples. In their world everybody is married and all marriage contracts are between a man and a woman. The man is the breadwinner, so they encourage the wives to work by dropping taxes for women.
    Indeed this was in the Spanish right party political program.

    This is what happens when tradcons embrace feminist principles.

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    #835302
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    This is even worse than divorce: a man can easily avoid divorce rape by not signing a marriage contract and not cohabiting, but such kind of “reforms” are going to hurt even MGTOW.

    A man can easily avoid taxes by limiting his productivity and working under the table.

    This scheme will backfire. Tax schemes like this will only drive more men out of the official economy and into labor markets where their productivity become inaccessible to the government.

    Besides, women already pay lower taxes than men simply by earning less because they work less.

    #835306
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    Jan Sobieski
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    Anonymous
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    So they do that? what will be the consequences? They cannot beat the “free market” of everything.
    1. Every human can move and choose the country he/she wants to live in. I guess Australian passport is powerful enough to be let in other countries.
    So if tax is high, men will just go away and Galt.
    Anyway, every animal in Australia wants to kill people. Poison, venom, brute force or whatever.
    2. if tax is not that much higher, it will be still a better option to pay higher taxes than supporting a family and after that being robbed at divorce court.

    Life is a math example, one needs to make more or equal money (after tax) than he spends to keep going. It is that simple. Do life decisions like that.

    You know, single young men are the most unlucky in the system anyway. There are tax reductions after children in many countries. Girls always go for the guys a few years older than themselves. So, minimal sex, minimal money, and a lot of struggle to get things going. Regardless of country.

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    Anonymous
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    This is even worse than divorce: a man can easily avoid divorce rape by not signing a marriage contract and not cohabiting, but such kind of “reforms” are going to hurt even MGTOW.

    A man can easily avoid taxes by limiting his productivity and working under the table.

    This scheme will backfire. Tax schemes like this will only drive more men out of the official economy and into labor markets where their productivity become inaccessible to the government.

    Besides, women already pay lower taxes than men simply by earning less because they work less.

    They want everything, sidecar.

    Let’s let them have it.

    The whole system will collapse. Technology will fail. Public transport will fail. Running water will stop and we won’t get electricity.

    Stock up on water and food and let the hilarity ensue.

    #835332
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    Beer
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    My stupid public school system has announced a 40% increase in property taxes as well as my city is increasing property taxes too. They have these Taj Mahal schools and education consultants whom they pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to tell them the sky is blue.

    I have always taken the local paper which supports these tax increases. I am cancelling my subscription in order to balance my budget. I’d rather not do it as they do an excellent job of covering our city, but my hand is forced. There is not much blood left in the stone.

    A newspaper loses a loyal customer, a paper carrier loses revenue, and some educrat gets more money to waste. This is an anecdotal story of exactly what happens when a government raises taxes. People who work lose jobs. I will use other ways to get around the education sales taxes which they promised would eliminate the need to raise property taxes.

    I go further Galt.

    Its why I haven’t bought a house to begin with. I can pay about 1600 a year in taxes here on a condo…or buy a house and pay north of 6k a year. If I bought a house, it would have a garage, and I’d be tempted to put a sports car and a motorcycle in it, which would mean even more taxes here in my s~~~ty blue state. In the end your probably talking an extra 5,000-6,000 a year at least just in taxes.

    I’m hoping to live at least another 50 years. 5,000 x 50 is a quarter million dollars(not taking inflation and future tax increases into account) extra I’d have to fork over to the town over my life time. I don’t mind paying a reasonable amount of taxes…but its well past a point where teachers here are some of the highest paid in the nation and get fat pensions they contribute very little to, and I look at some of the projects the town throws money at, and its just like f~~~ it…I’ll condo it up and just stash money for a few more years until I have enough that my job is optional and I’m not tied to this area anymore…then this f~~~ed up town will get zero from me.

    #835346
    Carnage
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    South America bitchessss.

    There is no rules down here, welcome to hell mother f~~~ers.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #835360
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    Mr. Spock
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    Don’t forget about the tax rate we gents pay on the child support we hand over to the pumpkin…28% (or whatever) on money we cannot see, touch, or decide how to spend…pumpkin pays 0% on that money that she DOES see, touch, and decides how to spend.

    In the US the new tax laws have changed and pumpkin no longer has to claim alimony or spousal support as income. Men cannot claim it as an expense either.
    One way or another they are implementing bachelor taxes where ever they can

    Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

    #835361
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    Eric Lauder
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    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-businesses-controlled-by-women-should-get-lower-tax-rate-group-says/

    This is already happening where I live, but just only for the first three years of life of the business.
    It applies to both businesses owned by women, and businesses owned by people under 30 (both men and women): but people under 30 get just only an year of lower taxes, women get 3 years. It’s being justified by considering stay-at-home wives as “being unemployed”, by this way they can allege that women’s unemployement is worse than young people unemployement. Basically men who support stay-at-home wives are traitors, even if they do it unknowingly.

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    #835369
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    DorkShit
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    Watch out for the stick when you bend over girls!

    They deserve everything that they are going to get.

    Peace brothers

    #835370
    Eric Lauder
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    This is even worse than divorce: a man can easily avoid divorce rape by not signing a marriage contract and not cohabiting, but such kind of “reforms” are going to hurt even MGTOW.

    A man can easily avoid taxes by limiting his productivity and working under the table.

    This scheme will backfire. Tax schemes like this will only drive more men out of the official economy and into labor markets where their productivity become inaccessible to the government.

    Besides, women already pay lower taxes than men simply by earning less because they work less.

    I know.
    They’re also missing the point that married women working and earning less than their husbands is often due taxation: my ex wife is a college professor and I have a degree, she taught even in private lessons and I did it too, but in both cases those private lessons always had been in the black market, not official, zero taxes, and she actually taught 3-4 times more than me. Officializing such private lessons and paying taxes on them would have been an economical suicide: by raising taxes we would have worked for a miserable figure, earning, after taxes, for each hour, less than a third of the minimum hourly wage!

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    #835389
    MonkeyMind
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    The only people who would benefit from this would be single women.

    If i was married, i’d expect the wife to go out and be the breadwinner because i’m not going to work my bollocks off and get taxed more for the privelidge.

    #835416
    Eric Lauder
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    The only people who would benefit from this would be single women.

    If i was married, i’d expect the wife to go out and be the breadwinner because i’m not going to work my bollocks off and get taxed more for the privelidge.

    True, but also lesbian couples, even more, since they live together and both would get the lower taxes.
    An unexpected social force opposition such kind of “reform” would be gays: a gay couple would be twicely screwed – both are men and so both are gonna paying higher taxes.

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    #835427
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    Blade
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    You are getting f~~~ all out of me . I owe you motherf~~~ers nothing . Take what little crumbs you find in my bank account .

    Those that have taken i now take from them . Turning positives into negatives . I am more than your perceptions or the bump in the shoulder . Built for purpose . Adapt overcome . Think outside the square .

    F~~~ goverment . Lol i actually did .

    THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

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    You are getting f~~~ all out of me . I owe you motherf~~~ers nothing . Take what little crumbs you find in my bank account .

    Those that have taken i now take from them . Turning positives into negatives . I am more than your perceptions or the bump in the shoulder . Built for purpose . Adapt overcome . Think outside the square .

    F~~~ goverment . Lol i actually did .

    Just don’t ask questions on this website, understand?

    #835465
    Shine
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    You don’t need the government to build your roads, you can raise money from people that are interested in that and hire a private company to work for your community, this is how we do it here because the government “forgot” about us. The same goes for everything else, water, electricity, communication, you have companies that want you as a customer, they will take care of the infrastructure to turn you into a customer and charge you for that, you don’t need a government to interfere with it.

    I’ve been thinking that alot of the old systems have failed to keep up with technological trends. Even the simple traffic control systems causing grid lock in our cities. Samrt lights should have been around for atleast a decade, counting cars and giving the green as you approach instead of poorly synced lights on main roads that f~~~ up the flow.

    Then there is the elephant in the room, the goverment that wastes so much money it’s not funny, if only it was and we could laugh about it 🙁

    So another outdated draconian system is the goverment voting what we the people need, because we voted for them. Too much middle level management. I think as a tax payer we should be able to “Crowd Fund” what ever projects we like with atleast half of our tax money. Want a highspeed rail, put $10k of your tax money towards the billion dollar target… etc etc.

    And stop paying pollys so much, that would be a good start to get the country back on track, but seems we are doomed to do things the way the boomers dictate, and as a result we are heading towards a mad max era. Time will tell, but I’m guessing 2030 will be some pretty wild times ahead!

    Might have to look up some recipies for road kill!!

    "Society is to blame" Denton

    #835470
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    Solid
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    There is no rules down here, welcome to hell mother f~~~ers.

    Are you living in Paraguay ? hahahaha

    . I think as a tax payer we should be able to “Crowd Fund” what ev

    Brother, this was thought through several times over and over again, agorism/voluntarism is basically what you are thinking about

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agorism

    People who are interested in the outcomes should put their money, and those who aren’t don’t need to be into that s~~~. Why the hell you would pay for a bridge in the other side of the country that you will never use ? This is the principle, is quite simple, I’ve tested two times by myself and it works, people together can do it better than the government. If your road costs 10k for example, if you get it using taxes, you will be paying at least 4x times more than it costs, you will have to pay a lot of white collars that don’t do nothing the whole day, getting 6 digits as payment, just to sign a paper saying that your road can be build, then they will hire the cheapest company to build the road. You can get a shortcut and hire the company by yourself, it will be far cheaper just paying for the service, than paying a lot of lazy people that in the end will hire the very same company to do the very same job.

    #835482
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    Gui
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    Australia considering turning itself into a ghost island. Fixed for you.

    No one ever heard of Laffer curve? For God sake it’s so retarded to think people won’t consider moving, find ways to fraud taxes or just give up on being entrepreneurs. And all those options hurt a country’s economy like hell.

    My country has a unbelievably stupid greedy government that taxes our asses out. And that actively motivates people to fraud their taxes, to start informal businesses, to smuggle stuff, etc.

    And what about those who don’t care about resorting to real crime? Well those start into drug dealing, extorsion of residents and merchants and all sorts of nasty stuff you can imagine.

    (I don’t consider not paying taxes a crime specially when the government isn’t being reasonable and don’t give a s~~~ about not killing your bussiness).

    Every year the government wastes the opportunity to receive an unfathomable amount in taxes because it’s so f~~~ing greedy it suffocates suffocates people dreams and make them stop giving a s~~~ about having anything legal.

    Only reason people don’t leave our country in masse is because it isn’t so easy due to immigration policies and the cost in money. Despite all that, many folks from the upper classes have left already and each year that number grows.

    You can easily see how strong government can f~~~ a country when almost all of young people from my country wan’t to pass on those tests to work at someone government job and enjoy the privileges public workers have and no one dreams of starting their own business.

    Any system with more parasites than workers can’t go for much longer.

    In Australia’s case when people can leave for other european countries or even for US if they got the money. I don’t think the government will be able to extort their population like that without it backfiring horribly.

    Pity and contempt are siblings. You only feel pity for those you consider weak.

    #835487
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    Any system with more parasites than workers can’t go for much longer.

    It is in portuguese, but the blue line means government workers and the other line “other” workers, for the same job, those working for the government earn far more.

    Another thing, working for the government here means not working, they just slack the whole day

    #835488
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    Only reason people don’t leave our country in masse is because it isn’t so easy due to immigration policies

    That is my situation, but I hope to change it soon !

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