Two observations on behaviour unique to the MGTOW forum

[UntamedParticipant]

This is a great place! This Forum is unique in so many ways it’s astounding. Plus the topic of the day everyday is the Out of Control C~~~s who’re driving this whole train wreck of a society into the abyss of self-inhalation. What better topic is there?!
So when I joined, to me it was like coming home from a place devoid of sanity and sense. Thank you for your welcome, KeyMaster.
I too have had words with a couple of members and KM is again right, Religion is a sticky one and I’m usually the first fool to jump all over that one. F~~~ it.
But being a participant of this Forum has taught me a lot so thank you all for posting keeping it real.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
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[VenomParticipant 310]

I love this site for the recent posts expressed. I’ve tried other MGTOW and MRA forums, but they seem to be either to uptight or they have strict speech guidelines. They also ban members for saying certain words.

Whenever I go onto those sites, I deliberately push the owner’s/admins patience because I hate being told what I can and can’t say on a forum/chat room. As a result, I eventually get banned from almost every forum/chat room I go into to. Hell, I even got banned from a so called free speech chat room once.

I also hate you have to do mandatory intros on other MGTOW forums. I don’t have a problem with doing intros as a common thing among forums, but when you tell me I have to, I say “f~~~ you, I’ll do what I want.”

But on this site, we don’t seem to have that problem. It’s more or less a free speech zone for MGTOW men. When I’m allowed to say what I want, I’m the nicest guy ever. When you restrict my speech, I tend to be a total asshole.

[HitmanParticipant]

i think i caught flack twice in about a year , from obviously young men ,otherwise i have been treated like a king .the respect and comradery are what keep me amazed and coming back to this sanctuary ! best place on the web .hands down .

[KeymasterKeymaster]

The feedback about what you like (and don’t like) about others is really helpful!

Symmetric MGTOW wrote:

I do thank them though for banning you because that motivated you to create your own MGTOW website.

It’s been in conceptual development since 2010, when we wanted to create an exclusively men’s interest (or Manosphere) site. Like “ask men dot com”…. but it’s a little too much like a “magazine”. We actually operated under another domain and opened for just one day. But then shut it down because we didn’t like the name , and so we waited to get the right name for it (mgtow.com) before we busted ass to make it successful. We wanted a real …. whats the word…… “niche” – for men only.

The inspiration to start it came from Barbarossa’s youtube request (+/-2012) to create a permanent archive for MGTOW related content that would protect it from vanishing. That’s when we got serious and started archiving in 2012 – after also reaching out to several very prominent MGTOW online to feel out the enthusiasm. Only one replied and said “Go for it! “. So it really was a “if you build it, they will come” kind of thing.

The Forums were an afterthought by VERY popular request, and the closing of the biggest one was the deciding factor. Getting “banned” from there twice was a motivator but only to an extent. Our intent was not to compete, and since they closed, that was a non-issue anyway.

At first, we DID get a lot of “there’s a new MGTOW.COM?? WTF???” from other veterans, but very quickly everyone could tell we were not AVFM in disquise. For 8 months at least, it was “Are you P.E.??” and “Are you Sandman??”. That was funny and strange. They didn’t even ask “who are you?”. So we went around to a few to say NO. We are NOT Paula ShElam. They didn’t believe us for months. Like we had some kind of slippery/under-handed motivation. There were MANY suspicions at first, which was a little bizarre and it took a while to understand where they were coming from.

Originally we had set out to start the forums to keep users engaged while we continue to build the site around it, but the whopping success of the forums in the name of MGTOW just slowed that down. We also REALLY didn’t want “mgtow,com” to fall into the wrong hands. That would have been a disaster. So it worked out very well.

numbCruncher wrote:

I have seen arguments on here too, but it still seems to take place in the context of a general cohesiveness and overall respect.

A basic – basic – level of respect for other members is one of the requirements.
They endure enough battery out in the world already.

Insult the point and tear it apart to shreds, but don’t insult the member (as a minimal guideline).

Venom wrote:

When I’m allowed to say what I want, I’m the nicest guy ever. When you restrict my speech, I tend to be a total asshole.

I’m nodding.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RennieParticipant]

numbCruncher wrote:

deep down I think we recognise something of ourselves in each other – that vital spark of individuality that refuses to be dictated to, but instead chooses to live life on its own terms, whatever the social cost in the wider world.

That’s how I’ve been since I was about 7 or 8 years old. I began to realize that blindly following other people was stupid and started deciding to do what I wanted to do.

Keymaster wrote:

At first, we DID get a lot of “there’s a new MGTOW.COM?? WTF???” from other veterans, but very quickly everyone could tell we were not AVFM in disquise. For 8 months at least, it was “Are you P.E.??” and “Are you Sandman??”. That was funny and strange. They didn’t even ask “who are you?”. So we went around to a few to say NO. We are NOT Paula ShElam. They didn’t believe us for months. Like we had some kind of slippery/under-handed motivation. There were MANY suspicions at first, which was a little bizarre and it took a while to understand where they were coming from.

I remember when I first came here a year ago, I thought this was the next reincarnation of that other place – the one now listed for one thousand British pounds. I admit I was highly suspicious of it all and for atleast a couple of weeks wasn’t sure if this site was run by those same people.

But this site is way too professionally run to have ever come from them.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

I like the honesty here, and the respect for other’s opinions, as well as the lack of surrender and ass-kissing. You don’t have to check your b~~~~ at the door.
There is another thing I find here that is very rare, especially in something set up for men. At the risk of sounding squishy, there is a sense of caring and understanding here for each other that I have seen on no other sites. Not a sappy, talking-down-to-a-child kind of understanding or the sweet but clueless type you get from most women, but a genuine, useful caring of a type I think only men would get. It’s hard to describe, but I can’t think of any other place where a man could express the kind of pain that he can here and find any real sympathy.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

Men will always bond a lot better and be more productive when women aren’t around. This is why i like MGTOW so much.

I don’t agree 100% with what everyone says but it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things.

Men have no unity at the plantation, the only male only space we’re allowed is Male Toilets. That is one f~~~ed up situation and why for the most part i no longer give a f~~~ about society as a whole.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10911]

One of the reasons I joined this site was that I rarely saw infighting or scuffles between posters. I lurked around the site before actually joining. Sure there are always disagreements but the men here are respectful to each other and agree to disagree civilly. Members agree or disagree, state their reasons and move on.
Another reason I joined was that inciting violence is not tolerated even against women. This shows a sophistication and respect for life that is evident amongst our members. Sure some of us are angry but no one promotes violence. We vent and we move on. Last I heard we had over 12,000 members and even though we are all going our own way, we are at the same place.
I personally look forward to reading from everyone every time I log in to the site. I have learned a lot in a short period of time. I learned that I was wrong, learned that there can be a different point of view. Learned that I don’t know as much as I thought I did. Because of that, I value the opinions of each one of you.
God Bless each and every one of you!

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[mp357Participant 531]

Sorry for the cliche but this site is an oasis for men. Where else in the wide world can you find a place where Only MEN are given space to vent and commiserate. I greatly appreciate this site and hope dearly that some idiot doesn’t come around and ruin it for us. Thx for the site, all those years of questions and wondering if iam crazy, i came here and learned I wasn’t alone. That is priceless.

[Anonymous 18]

Keymaster wrote:

I was kicked out of the old MGTOW forums – twice – without posting anything but an intro… which wasn’t even approved(!).

Well @KM, say …. how about you share the intro with us lol?

I have had a glimpse of women in your life here and there through your posts but can’t possibly imagine an intro BEFORE you created a site with 11000 members. Something tells me it wasn’t a woman f~~~ing you over … more like one too many and it got old…

Oh don’t let me make this any more awkward, just having fun here bud.

But in all seriousness banning members for disagreements and some flaming heated words isn’t really serving any purpose other than to stroke the egos of those who can. And just because they can.

I have said about a 1000 things to warrant banning elsewhere. I am still here and hope to be around until there is WiFI on Mars. Preferably not a Starbucks one. It gets slow. 🙂

[Duke of MangafParticipant 69]

There are definitely people here that I don’t see 100% eye to eye with, but at the end of the day, who wants that? There is no hard and fast test for a precise set of conditions for MGTOW, and there shouldn’t be. We are all in different places in our lives. Different ages, levels of experience, backgrounds, ethnicities, political leanings, religious persuasions etc etc. What good would any of it be if that wasn’t the case?

Im 40, divorced, and have dated more women than I care to count over the last 25 years. I wouldn’t ever expect a 20 year old kid to go full monk out the gate. I also wouldnt expect the above 40 year old guys to fall for the same traps and be chasing women around and thinking with their dicks knowing full well the consequences. We educate one another, learn new things and see the perspectives of others fighting the good fight.

This is an outstanding group of people, and in the short amount of time Ive spent here, Ive been quite impressed overall. Its also validated things in my own mind after years and years of dating in this sick society.

[WolfParticipant 890]

numbCruncher wrote:

I wonder if these two observations are in any way related?

I think you’re onto something here 🙂

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