Trump vows mass immigration arrests

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Faust For Science wrote:

MAGA is a response to this globalist mindset. MAGA is composed of the working class. MAGA is a workers revolution in the style Karl Marxist talked about. MAGA is true communism.

Lol…let’s see…

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism

“Definition of communism

1a : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
b : a theory advocating elimination of private property”

Explain to us how MAGA = elimination of private property and the government controlling everything?

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Warfish wrote:

P~~~es me the Dems want to remove the barriers and let more freeloaders into the country without any controls, and give them free education, healthcare, housing, etc —– of course they have no idea as to how they would pay for any of it

The way I see it, Democrats are just determined to turn America into a giant cess pool with their stupid policies. I’ve got nothing against immigrants, so long as its a limited and controlled process. Open borders to tens of millions of poor people + a social safety net is just a recipe for disaster, especially when those poor people will come here and vote for the same socialist/communist ideas that ruined where they came from.

I for one am just going to have an exit plan. Thankfully our money is still in a position, and probably will be for at least a few more decades, where we will have favorable exchange rates with a lot of other countries. If we get some asshat president like Elizabeth Warren who tells me I owe black people reparations, I have to pay off student loans for my fellow millennials many of whom didn’t work at all in college and borrowed above and beyond tuition so they could buy a car and go on spring break trips, I owe illegals college + healthcare etc, I’ll be at a point in a few years where I can just say “How about I give you nothing,” quit my job, and go live abroad where after a currency and cost of living adjustment I’ll instantly be 2-3x as rich.

I just find it ironic that if I say illegals should all be deported, stupid people will call me racist as clearly the only reason I’d have for that is most of them are brown, yet my exit plan might just include spending some years living in South America. Its getting nicer and nicer down there as they send all their trash up here.

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Beer wrote:

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Faust For Science wrote:

MAGA is a response to this globalist mindset. MAGA is composed of the working class. MAGA is a workers revolution in the style Karl Marxist talked about. MAGA is true communism.

Lol…let’s see…

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism

“Definition of communism

1a : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
b : a theory advocating elimination of private property”

Explain to us how MAGA = elimination of private property and the government controlling everything?

You missed the part where I wrote, “Karl Marxist talked about” (I meant Karl Marx).

If you want to research communism, you should read Karl Marx. What Karl Marx wrote is vastly different than what is defined today as “communism”. For example, Karl Marx supported private ownership of firearms and ammo.

What is considered “communism” today is a form of fascism where the elitists control the people as slaves. Overtone window double-think by the globalists where they do not use the term “fascism”, they define communism, fascism, and other ideologies as being all the parts of “fascism”, with each of these ideologies leading to control by the globalists.

Now, to answer the question you have. MAGA is a “collectivist” movement that wishes to take the wealth from their enemies and use that wealth for the project MAGA want. This can be heard by listening crowd responses to President Trump’s speeches. The crowds cheer loudest when President Trump talks about groups the crowd does not like being made to fund what the crowd wants to happen.

Keep in mind, President Trump has never been a conservative. He has always been a socially moderate capitalist whom grew up in New York City politics. The difference between him and the Clintons is he loves the United States, he believes in keeping his word, and he realizes and an armed society keeps crime low.

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Faust For Science wrote:

What Karl Marx wrote is vastly different than what is defined today as “communism”. For example, Karl Marx supported private ownership of firearms and ammo.

He advocated for the complete dissolution of the family as the purest expression of private property. He wanted complete and total forfeiture of private property including your time, to be redistributed by the state.

That is the exact opposite of MAGA, which is mostly rural America and business Democrats in an alliance to bring labor back to the US and repatriate non-citizens to their home countries.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

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JustAnotherGuy wrote:

He advocated for the complete dissolution of the family as the purest expression of private property.

Actually, his feminist daughter altered his writings to state that.

Karl Marx wrote how industry destroys the family unit.

Another case of a feminist twisting a man’s work to suit her goals.

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

That is the exact opposite of MAGA, which is mostly rural America and business Democrats in an alliance to bring labor back to the US and repatriate non-citizens to their home countries.

Actually, mentioning foreigners. MAGA foreign policy is in line with Karl Marx in that the people of each specific nation take control of their nation from the elitists whom rule them.

I will be honest. I feel like I am in a monster movie, where the monsters have fed on the people to the point the people are starting to turn into monsters. The monsters do not want to admit this because it means no feeding and fighting off the new monsters. And the people will not admit this because they hate the monsters whom fed on this. And those that point this out are called wrong for doing so.

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Faust For Science wrote:

For example, Karl Marx supported private ownership of firearms and ammo.

So what? Gun ownership =/= communism.

Faust For Science wrote:

What is considered “communism” today is a form of fascism where the elitists control the people as slaves.

No its not…its the government, aka the people, controlling the economy and property. It just always ends up corrupt with a dictator stepping in to take over, or run into the ground by stupid people.

Faust For Science wrote:

Now, to answer the question you have. MAGA is a “collectivist” movement that wishes to take the wealth from their enemies and use that wealth for the project MAGA want.

Trump lowers taxes. MAGA wants to take people’s wealth. LOL!

Faust For Science wrote:

This can be heard by listening crowd responses to President Trump’s speeches. The crowds cheer loudest when President Trump talks about groups the crowd does not like being made to fund what the crowd wants to happen.

Can you give specifics? Only time I can recall him saying this is about Mexico paying for the wall, which even if he had the power to make that happen, he’s not confiscating any American citizens property or money, or nationalizing any businesses…you know, things that would be a requirement to actually be a communist.

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Faust For Science wrote:

Actually, mentioning foreigners. MAGA foreign policy is in line with Karl Marx in that the people of each specific nation take control of their nation from the elitists whom rule them.

You mean…fix your own damn problems and don’t crash our border illegally is a communistic view, especially when many of the countries these people are coming from we have given billions in aid to over the years to you know…fix their own damn problems? That isn’t communism. Pretty much every country throughout history had some sort of borders and citizenship requirements regardless of their political system.

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Beer wrote:

So what? Gun ownership =/= communism.

That is one example. I have stated other examples.

MAGA is about 80% in line with what Karl Marx wrote. And the other 20% could be explains in how propaganda and control systems have changed over the centuries.

Beer wrote:

No its not…its the government, aka the people, controlling the economy and property.

Lenin changed it so the party was considered the people. That was not how Karl Marx wrote it.

In truth the Soviets were proto-fascists in that it was a marriage of government and industry, but in this case the government took control of industry and executed the previous owners of the industries.

Beer wrote:

Trump lowers taxes. MAGA wants to take people’s wealth. LOL!

Listen to President Trump’s rally and pay attention to when the crowd cheers. They cheer loudest at taking from those whom have taken from them.

Beer wrote:

Can you give specifics? Only time I can recall him saying this is about Mexico paying for the wall, which even if he had the power to make that happen, he’s not confiscating any American citizens property or money, or nationalizing any businesses…you know, things that would be a requirement to actually be a communist.

The border wall is a good point. The crowd cheered when President Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall.

I believe you are confused on a few different points. One being point, President Trump is a capitalist, not a communist. But, MAGA has communist overtone and the MAGA rank and file have the same communist mindset that Karl Marx talked about when is comes to a workers revolution.

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Beer wrote:

Faust For Science wrote:

Actually, mentioning foreigners. MAGA foreign policy is in line with Karl Marx in that the people of each specific nation take control of their nation from the elitists whom rule them.

You mean…fix your own damn problems and don’t crash our border illegally is a communistic view, especially when many of the countries these people are coming from we have given billions in aid to over the years to you know…fix their own damn problems? That isn’t communism. Pretty much every country throughout history had some sort of borders and citizenship requirements regardless of their political system.

Actually, there is communism. A good example of this was the Spanish Civil War in the 1930’s, the communist side was mostly working class whom revolted against the nobles and the catholic church.

The reason the communists lost the Spanish Civil War was that Stalin got involved, he had all the communists whom were not loyal to him killed, meaning those with intelligence were killed, and the communist side collapsed.

There are several examples in Latin and South America.

Then, there is the Cold War when western powers and what is now known as the deep state decided that the best way to fight the Soviets was to overthrow democracies and install puppet dictatorships, whom would let the corporations loot and enslave those nations. During the Cold War the U.S. exported tyranny. Though, the Soviets did this as well.

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Faust For Science wrote:

I will be honest. I feel like I am in a monster movie, where the monsters have fed on the people to the point the people are starting to turn into monsters. The monsters do not want to admit this because it means no feeding and fighting off the new monsters. And the people will not admit this because they hate the monsters whom fed on this. And those that point this out are called wrong for doing so.

Yep. This is America today:

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