To WWIII or not to WWIII that is the question

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

The article below is about a Russian state run news broadcast giving Russian citizens advice about surviving a nuclear war. But the really important part of the story is the comment about western news stories using scare tactics to whip up hysteria. THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/state-run-russian-tv-tells-12349859

Now then are the superpowers USA/Russia on the brink of pressing the button? No and not just no hell no. Why? because as a matter of rational calculation they each have too much to loose and very little if anything to gain. Obviously that statement is premised upon the idea that the actors are rational and think logically. Historically logic and rationality are out the window when war comes a knocking so the question regarding the likelihood of such a conflicts rests not upon who/whom is rational but rather who is more likely to loose their s~~~ and act irrationally.

The case for the USA. The President is not only highly intelligent, and rational but also very greedy and selfish. He is WAY to enmeshed in the comforts of life to see things go up in smoke. Further he is very egotistical and does not want a legacy as the man who erased the human race. So he is not, nor is he going to allow the deep state to initiate such an attack. Of course the flip side of that is that the deep state can try and maneuver him into a position where he must launch and after all a large amount of the USA nuke force IS first strike capable. In the alternative in the face of recalcitrance by the President they may simply chose to remove him and replace him with someone more…malleable to their wishes.

The case for Russia. Russians are incredibly pragmatic. If they have nothing to gain from launching they won’t. On the other hand if they see themselves being placed into a no win situation they will not react logically; they will react emotionally in the moment. Backing them against a wall in the vain hope that somehow they will yell “uncle” is not only a forlorn hope it is one born of an ignorance of the Russian psyche.

Now some facts. The Russians have been quietly but systematically preparing their population for the eventuality of nuclear war. Building shelters, stock-piling food water etc. To do so is time consuming and expensive. They have the GNP of Spain so if scarce resources are being allocated in this direction–there is a reason. Sure maybe they are just overly cautious OR they understand the current political trajectory a little better than most. Most of the Russian nuclear arsenal is not first strike capable, it is a counter strike force. And a counter-strike force is aimed not at enemy military assets but rather enemy cities. After all why shoot at empty silos?

Believe it or not there IS a silver lining here. Yes the loss of major cities in terms of infrastructure, money etc would be devastating. BUT these same cities are seething cesspools of left-wing zealots bent on destroying the country. Would any real liberty loving American shed a tear over the incineration of these communist ass-clowns? Not me. I might send Putin a thank you note—whenever mail starts running again that is.

If you are MGTOW and living in or near a major city you have a bulls-eye on your back. Even if you survive the initial blast, fireball heat etc. the dose of gamma radiation will kill you inside of a week. And anyone stupid enough to rush to a government “fall out shelter” will die a much more horrible death. Who is going to dig you out of the radioactive rubble? Answer no one. So don’t bother. Your best bet is to get out of the cities NOW or in the near future. Once the balloon goes up you wont’ get the chance. Roads will be jammed or closed off by the government.

I’m not trying to instill or inflame hysteria. Right now rational people are calling the shots and they understand the difference between political theater for public consumption and the consequences of pressing the button. BUT if one side or the other is backed into a corner and feels they have nothing to loose history teaches us over and over emotion will then rules the day.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

San Francisco, Mountain View, Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago, Boston, and a few others.

Zero-f~~~s-given if those vermin-infested cesspools of Marxism get sterilized by heat and radiation.

They are not American places with American values anymore, and haven’t been for a long time. They are tumors that need to be killed with radiation.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Exactly Ranger! In a way a nuke war might be the salvation of the USA. Ironic I know. But consider: If the Dems gain the house in the midterms they will impeach the President—in effect nullifying the election of 2016. THIS also has the side effect of DISENFRANCHISING at least half the electorate. Many of whom vote republican. Once they realize that they have been disenfranchised and their votes are meaningless they will abdicate the entire process. Which means Republicans will never occupy the white house or a majority in either house of congress. We will become a one party police state. Our only hope at that point might just be another country blowing the place up!

[Anonymous 18]

Bro metaphorically speaking your grass needs mowing, you need to shed 10 pounds, you have a dozen things on your to-do list.

I get the escapism from world war this or world war that.

Its for low tier people to worry about the what-ifs.

Go out and live your life.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

PistolPete wrote:

Exactly Ranger! In a way a nuke war might be the salvation of the USA. Ironic I know. But consider: If the Dems gain the house in the midterms they will impeach the President—in effect nullifying the election of 2016. THIS also has the side effect of DISENFRANCHISING at least half the electorate. Many of whom vote republican. Once they realize that they have been disenfranchised and their votes are meaningless they will abdicate the entire process. Which means Republicans will never occupy the white house or a majority in either house of congress. We will become a one party police state. Our only hope at that point might just be another country blowing the place up!

I would consider an impeachment followed by a guilty verdict and removal from office to be a political act of corruption, and not one that deserves any recognition of legal standing.

In fact, I might go so far as to consider it on par with a military coup, and something to be resisted with force. I doubt I’m the only person who feels this way. Might end up being time to play Cowboys and Globalists.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Anonymous wrote:

Its for low tier people to worry about the what-ifs

Says EVERYONE until the actual s~~~ hits the fan THEN its a different story. I see this played out every-time we have a hurricane. People know hurricanes come every year but they are EVER so busy with “stuff” they don’t prepare, and then when the s~~~ flies they go into a panic; year after year it happens over and over. Its the old story of the ant and grasshopper. Want to be a grasshopper? Don’t come banging on my door when winter comes…I’m the ant and I’m prepared.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

https://www.rt.com/uk/423908-syria-britons-poll-war/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

The radiation will f~~~ us all though with or without the big cities being hit.

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

[Prophet MicahParticipant 1972]

PistolPete wrote:

Would any real liberty loving American shed a tear over the incineration of these communist ass-clowns?

Not a single tear shed, not one f~~~ given.

Grade A thread, PistolPete.

I’m roughly 45min south of New Orleans. Other than the supply ships that go in and out of our ports I see no reason to nuke Louisiana. Thankfully Dallas, I’d imagine a more likely target, is 500mi from me so I’ll be able to see the plume cloud if such an event happens.

No Wife - No Strife

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

PistolPete wrote:

Ghân-buri-Ghân wrote:

Its for low tier people to worry about the what-ifs

Says EVERYONE until the actual s~~~ hits the fan THEN its a different story. I see this played out every-time we have a hurricane. People know hurricanes come every year but they are EVER so busy with “stuff” they don’t prepare, and then when the s~~~ flies they go into a panic; year after year it happens over and over. Its the old story of the ant and grasshopper. Want to be a grasshopper? Don’t come banging on my door when winter comes…I’m the ant and I’m prepared.

Right now I’m filling in the gaps in my preps. I have noticeable gaps.

I have body armor, but no helmet yet.
I have IOSAT tablets, but no Geiger counter yet.
I have gas mask & filters, but no NBC suit yet.
I have about a 2 1/2 month supply of food SO FAR, built up recently (MRE’s, canned food, freeze-dried food in 7-gal) but am going to expand that to 4 years.

I am working systematically to close the gaps. Water purification being a more recent one. I also am actively planning to start digging soon for the 27 foot by 10 foot underground shelter.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Joey Alfio wrote:

The radiation will f~~~ us all though with or without the big cities being hit.

You might be surprised that this is often NOT the case. And this why:

1. An air burst creates much less long term fall out than a ground burst. Note people living in Hiroshima today.

2. Cities will be attacked with air bursts not ground bursts.

3. Any fallout follows general weather patterns so in the USA things move west to east and generally on the east coast north east. Although I have many military bases around me I am not in a fallout cone for ANY of them. As for cities—well they are either too far south or too far east to effect me. So I’ll do just fine.

As for radiation, stay in a sheltered location for two or three days and the level is reduced by a factor of 50, have some iodine on hand too. If you can wait it out a week the radiation is reduced by a factor of 100. So you see its not the end of the world…but it would be the end of a lot of un-american socialists. OH BOOO WHOOOO

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

My gaps: Need body armor, and gas mask I’ve got about a years supply of food, several water sources and purification equipment. Lots of guns and ammo and the means to make more. Where can I get good body armor reasonably cheap?

OH RAnger don’t forget medical supplies, peroxide, bandages, splints, even surgical tools (HA HA Just got mine)

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

PistolPete wrote:

My gaps: Need body armor, and gas mask I’ve got about a years supply of food, several water sources and purification equipment. Lots of guns and ammo and the means to make more. Where can I get good body armor reasonably cheap?

OH RAnger don’t forget medical supplies, peroxide, bandages, splints, even surgical tools (HA HA Just got mine)

Those items (the ones I don’t have already) are on a wishlist)

I think the AR500 body armor I have is decent. It cost about $500 if I recall.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22525]

PistolPete wrote:

The case for the USA. The President is not only highly intelligent, and rational but also very greedy and selfish. He is WAY to enmeshed in the comforts of life to see things go up in smoke.

The writer of the article is living in a bubble and whom is willfully ignorant of the ongoing coup attempt against President Trump.

It has come out that from Monday’s raid by Mueller has files tied to the RNC, which means those files are in the hands of the Clintons and DNC: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/04/dirty-cop-mueller-and-his-democrat-attorneys-nabbed-rnc-finance-committee-documents-with-michael-cohens-computers/

You can bet if they cannot bring down President Trump, they will blackmail the RNC to refuse to run President Trump on the 2020 Presidential Republican ballot. The supporters for President Trump will not stand for this.

Then, the DNC will turn around and accuse the RNC is rigging the presidential election, so the DNC can use that as a pretext to rig an election win in 2020.

The U.S. is being driven ever closer to dictatorship or revolution, and all because a c~~~ and her cannot admit they lost an election which they failed to rig enough, and the opponent played a better, straighter game.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Faust For Science wrote:

The writer of the article is living in a bubble and whom is willfully ignorant of the ongoing coup attempt against President Trump.

No I’m not you should have read the rest of what I said:”In the alternative in the face of recalcitrance by the President they may simply chose to remove him and replace him with someone more…malleable to their wishes.” Next time read the whole thing before commenting.

BTW Ranger I looked up the IOSAT tabs and I will try and get some. What is your body armor rated? What class? OH and I DO have a helmet but its a German M35 steel pot.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

At least my death will be quick and painless. I do not know exactly what weapons will be used in WW3, but I do know WW4 will be fought with sticks and rocks. Mutually Assured Destruction.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22525]

PistolPete wrote:

No I’m not you should have read the rest of what I said:”In the alternative in the face of recalcitrance by the President they may simply chose to remove him and replace him with someone more…malleable to their wishes.” Next time read the whole thing before commenting.

Do you realize that is complaining from both sides of the mouth? He does not do anything he will be replaced. He does something it is wrong.

Of course, if the coup happens, there is a higher chance of World War III starting in the U.S. than Syria.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

MarketWatcher wrote:

At least my death will be quick and painless. I do not know exactly what weapons will be used in WW3, but I do know WW4 will be fought with sticks and rocks. Mutually Assured Destruction.

OH Com’on man now you’re just being gloomy and its bringing everybody down. Think positive! Your city probably isn’t even a target. After all you have a nuclear plant near you; why waste a perfectly good bomb when the plant will melt down once the power is off. You might look into getting some IOSAT pills yourself man!

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Faust For Science wrote:

Do you realize that is complaining from both sides of the mouth?

No I’m not (AGAIN) The President may in fact do something but it will be for show only–not for any real blow!

[It’sallbsParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

OH Com’on man now you’re just being gloomy and its bringing everybody down. Think positive!

TUNA.

hahahahaha

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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