To fool the fools? Religion 2.0.

[OldBillParticipant]

Ohno wrote:

…with or without your permission…

Permission? I wrote nothing about permission nor was I attacking your beliefs. instead, I was answering the question you posed.

To me your beliefs are fairy tale bulls~~~. There is nothing wrong with that opinion.

To you your beliefs are a source of comfort, strength, and joy. There is nothing wrong with that opinion either.

We’re both going our own way. I accept your path just as you should accept mine.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

OldBill wrote:

Permission? I wrote nothing about permission nor was I attacking your beliefs. instead, I was answering the question you posed.

You call my belief bulls~~~ and belittle me in a sneaky way. Sure you were giving your “permission” to believe in my little fairytale bulls~~~ if it makes me feel better.

I dont know what makes you believe that you can read my mind like a book? We had this once already where you told me what I think and now you are wrong again. My belief is the source of comfort, strength and joy? How do you know? Thats isnt the case you know so stop putting words in my mouth.

Besides the impossibility of a universe starting to exist by itself, (unless you have an explanation why the law of cause and effect applies to everything else, just not for an atheists) there is plenty of proof of the acurate fulfillment of bible prophecies to be found in history until the present day.

You dont sound like you did any research about this subject and yet you believe that your opinion is sure correct and mine is a fairytale even though I have spend over 1000 hours researching it?
Thats ridiculous!

[OhnoParticipant 668]

OldBill wrote:

We’re all men here, we all speak the truth to each other, and you’ve just been given a nice chunk of it. Take advantage of that gift.

there you go!

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Those evil miracles would obviously be of the antichrist.

Real God would only do good miracles.

Like i said…it is not a matter of intelligence in this case.

Its also from The revelation btw chapter 11.

( 6 and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.)

7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

11 But after the three and a half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

[HulibabParticipant 3]

I was pleased to see so many replies… I WAS until I saw that almost nobody actually understood the point. The topic is not discussion whether god exists guys.
Yes I assumed we are educated people and ofcourse atheists and was sadly wrong. You dont have to defend yourselves.
Just go with the assumption of the inital post for christ’s sake. Thats the ignorance once again. You cant handle a new idea can you?
The new idea is to use a fake religion by enlightened modern individuals to engineer a radically different society. For example give men more rights? How about that for starters? How about getting rid of the cancer of feminism by simply sidestepping an unwinnable argument and hitting the idiot with what he asked for: more idiocy. Im not sure EVEN HERE are enough people who actually can keep up. I admit I had unrealistically high hopes.
Yes please move this topic to philosophy! My bad to throw this at the masses.

p.s.:
#1 trophy of ignorance wins the religious person calling himself “german truther”.
Your whole post targeted at me was 100% about a person (me) so by your own (and Sokrates) retarded definition you yourself must be a 100% idiot.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

“Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people.”
― Socrates

Dude, I wasnt discussing people/talking about people.
I talked to you directly.

[HulibabParticipant 3]

Yes you spoke to me directly about me, my attitude or claims. This is called discussing people. “The sheppard Billy is such an idiot!” ; “Billy youre such an idiot!”
Thats discussing people. And you know why you cant see it? Because you are afflicted with that so common desease called ignorance. It just doesnt fir your stance so you choose to deny it.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Hulibab wrote:

Yes you spoke to me directly about me, my attitude or claims. This is called discussing people.

No, its called talking to people.
Discussing people is talking to people about other people.

[Anonymous 7]

I haven’t really paid much attention to this post because that would take time and anger but you should not look to a god because you are afraid of him actually existing.

Nothing is more despicable than respect based on fear.
– Camus

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Real God would only do good miracles.

Yeah, like flooding the Earth and killing almost everyone and everything on it. Or by doing the same thing a second time, only by fire.

Those are some pretty good miracles… if by “good” you mean “things God does” in which case the only way you’d know God did it is if you knew God did it which renders the whole point moot. But hey, what room is there for logic in an argument about faith?

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Doc how come you picked an avatar with an occult meaning?
And Frank V has one as well. And Royal Dans Avatar…well it is in between. Btw what does the google logo look like to you? the iris of an eye maybe? Could it possibly look like anything else?

I mean you could have anything as your avatar. But it has got to be an occult symbol.
I guess you didnt know what your avatar means and what it represents, but dont you wonder why you picked this one out of a billion avatars that would be possible, when there are only about…I dont know how many exactly, never counted them…but I guess about 20-50 different occult symbols. You thought you chose your avatar?
Not at all Id say…

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Other%20Pagan%20Mumbo-Jumbo/yin-yang.htm

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Ohno wrote:

Doc how come you picked an avatar with an occult meaning?
And Frank V has one as well. And Royal Dans Avatar…well it is in between. Btw what does the google logo look like to you? the iris of an eye maybe? Could it possibly look like anything else?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Other%20Pagan%20Mumbo-Jumbo/yin-yang.htm

I have posted exactly what my avatar is elsewhere in these forums. Enter “NAA” into Google image search and you will find exactly what it is.

Please, look it up before commenting any further on it.

Frank V.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Not the letters! I mean the symbols of course!!! As if letters of the alphabet could have occult meaning…WOW…

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Ohno wrote:

Not the letters! I mean the symbols of course!!! As if letters of the alphabet could have occult meaning…WOW…

I said look up the letters “NAA” into an image search to find out what it is. The “it” in this case is the symbol. “It” is a pronoun and the sentence can be understood to mean the letters themselves.

Now, please, look it up before commenting further on what that is a symbol of exactly. In saying “please” I am not trying to be insulting in any way. I am pleading with you. I am asking you as nicely as I can.

Frank V.

PS: On second thought, I will just do the work for you. It is part of the logo for North American Aviation. The image is simply inverted like a negative. This is what their shares looked like.

It’s not a symbol of anything else. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[goodkid43Spectator 550]

Anonymous wrote:

Nothing is more despicable than respect based on fear.
– Camus

When he [Camus] was adapting Faulkner’s Requiem for a Nun for the French theater, he was asked about its religious dimension. “It’s true that I don’t believe in God, but that doesn’t mean I’m an atheist, and I would agree with Benjamin Constant, who thought a lack of religion was vulgar and even hackneyed.”
First Things Magazine. January 2014

[Anonymous 3]

Stargazer wrote:

Your one true guide to moral and ethical behavior is RESULTS… i.e. living a calm, quiet, peaceful and sustainable life surrounded by a community that aids and supports you in doing so. If you’re not having that experience, you’re doing something wrong, regardless of what the book or the Internet tells you.

I totally agree with that. This in itself can be the definition of moral for atheists.

[Anonymous 3]

Cali wrote:

You can define morality however you want, but unless there is a common ultimate authority, your version of morality is worth no more than a turd in the toilet to me. I don’t have to listen to you. No one has to listen to anybody.

There is an authority: laws written down, backed by police and judges. One, in this life, has to keep the laws, because doing otherwise will do harm for the individual. And morality and authority are two different things. Someone with an authority can make up some random stupid rules you don’t agree with, and you still have to follow it to have good survival, which then makes those things “moral” in viewpoint of your survival.

[Anonymous 3]

Frank V. wrote:

Since no reasonable person expects God to work some miracle and deal with all these problems for us, we have to deal with it ourselves.

Best answer so far 🙂

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

In terms of a “fake” religion, I would have to pass.

Because, if you want to make fate laugh, just say you are making plans.

In terms of religion, I can still respect someone who is a believer. It’s what they honestly think.

But just making up a fake religion ? I could not respect that, once I found out it was fake, I would lose all respect for the source and would be foolish not to question the motives of the “good parts”.

It’s called “bulls~~~ting”, and I have the impression that this is exactly why so many youth of today are leaving churches in droves. It’s also the reason many others are too, some people can smell it a mile away. I know they are not all atheists or agnostics, but they still won’t set foot in most churches. They believe in God, but not bulls~~~.

I think I speak for other here when I say that I have little confidence in “social engineering”. Feminists are really big on that.

So, seeing how that is working out so far, I think I’ll pass on more social engineering. Too easy in too many ways to make a bad situation worse.

Frank V.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Frank V. wrote:

I said look up the letters “NAA” into an image search to find out what it is. The “it” in this case is the symbol. “It” is a pronoun and the sentence can be understood to mean the letters themselves.

Now, please, look it up before commenting further on what that is a symbol of exactly. In saying “please” I am not trying to be insulting in any way. I am pleading with you. I am asking you as nicely as I can.

Oh man…i did look it up before I answered. Not that it could have possibly mattered what the alphabet soup stands for to the point i made…IM TALKING ABOUT THE SYMBOLS!!!!!!!! NOT THE LETTERS!!!!!

I dont know what to say anymore.

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