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[Anonymous 14]

Penman_Frey…
With all kindness and respect, there are some issues I would like you to address.

You posted inquiring about a couple certain topics. I provided you with such topics yet you have so far declined to add to said topics nor reply to them in this thread to me.

However, you seem to nitpick people over grammatical errors & quoting yourself, while denying to confront and comment on what you requested and have been provided with.

I ask you, would you care to elaborate? I await your retort..

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Interesting analysis. I actually found your description of my handwriting much more interesting than the personality stuff, as it’s not something I pay particularly close attention to. I don’t really believe handwriting says much about someone’s personality at all, but you did pick up on a few things.

Things you got right:
(1) Organizational skills: I have OCD; enough said. You probably picked this up from the high legibility of my handwriting. I’ve graded many essays in my career as a teacher, and I can say with assurance that my handwriting is far above average in that regard.
(2) Law: I do follow just laws. I’m a Catholic and I take morality seriously. Not sure if this was a guess or whether it actually shows in my handwriting.
(3) Numbers: I love math and am excellent at it (used to teach calculus). Is this because some of my letters look like numbers? A very reasonable conclusion.

Things you got wrong:
(1) Arrogant: Either you confused confidence with arrogance (as most people do), or you simply mean something different by the word. In my opinion, arrogance is having too high an opinion of yourself. I believe I have a purely objective view of my abilities. I won’t hide what I know, but I also won’t hide my ignorance when there’s something I don’t know.
(2) Good emotional control: I’m extremely choleric. Some emotions I can control, but not anger.
(3) Philosophy: Your biggest miss. Philosophy is one of my areas of expertise. I would hazard that I am as well read in philosophy as anyone on this forum. In addition, if your speculation about my sex drive was that it’s low, it’s not. Perhaps you made an assumption based on the fact that I’m a MGTOW (a pretty bad assumption in general).

Last, you said I prefer to be in a crowd, but also that I keep to myself. Seems like a contradiction to me. In any event, the latter is correct.

I appreciate your analysis, and I’m interested to hear more. Overall, your description sounded like a horoscope: a collection of very generalized statements which have a good chance of being true about many people. Further, I suspect you may have made some guesses based on details from my other posts (like the attention to detail claim: anyone can see I write with good grammar) as well as my presence on this site. However, I’m happy to give you the benefit of the doubt. Would you care to elaborate on how you arrived at your conclusions via my handwriting? I’m especially curious about how you arrived at the wrong conclusions.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

Anonymous wrote:

Penman_Frey, I am curious as to why you haven’t responded to me regarding the links I provided you with that you requested your interest in.

I apologize about that, I have no idea how I missed your response…
That is a blunder on my part, thank you for the links, I’ll check them out right now!

blade wrote:

General Kenobi wrote:

Penman_Frey, I am curious as to why you haven’t responded to me regarding the links I provided you with that you requested your interest in.

Me too .

Just throw your writing s~~~ in cools~~~ and fun stuff .

Thanks for the info, i’ll be going there then.

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Also, it might be a good idea to respond to General Kenobi. It’s weird that you’ve responded to everyone’s posts but his. I know there’s a lot to address, but this is what you should expect when you start a topic as a newcomer, especially when the topic carries a slight whiff of trolling.

EDIT: Good man.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 14]

Thank you Penman, I believe you will eventually find what you are looking for after getting acquainted with the site format 🙂

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

Anonymous wrote:

Penman_Frey…
With all kindness and respect, there are some issues I would like you to address.

You posted inquiring about a couple certain topics. I provided you with such topics yet you have so far declined to add to said topics nor reply to them in this thread to me.

However, you seem to nitpick people over grammatical errors & quoting yourself, while denying to confront and comment on what you requested and have been provided with.

I ask you, would you care to elaborate? I await your retort..

Again, I apologize for that, somehow I missed your previous message until just now…
I don’t have an excuse for that one.

As for the nitpicking. I’m not critisizing grammar. I am making decisive observations of their writing. I’m observing patterns in their writing and deviations from those patterns in comparison to precedent handwriting.

Graphology in essence you could say is the study of the correlation of those deviations to actual human phenomena which is what allows me to predict or guess on a person’s internal nature that they don’t show as easily to others.

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

Interesting analysis. I actually found your description of my handwriting much more interesting than the personality stuff, as it’s not something I pay particularly close attention to. I don’t really believe handwriting says much about someone’s personality at all, but you did pick up on a few things.

Things you got right:
(1) Organizational skills: I have OCD; enough said. You probably picked this up from the high legibility of my handwriting. I’ve graded many essays in my career as a teacher, and I can say with assurance that my handwriting is far above average in that regard.
(2) Law: I do follow just laws. I’m a Catholic and I take morality seriously. Not sure if this was a guess or whether it actually shows in my handwriting.
(3) Numbers: I love math and am excellent at it (used to teach calculus). Is this because some of my letters look like numbers? A very reasonable conclusion.

Things you got wrong:
(1) Arrogant: Either you confused confidence with arrogance (as most people do), or you simply mean something different by the word. In my opinion, arrogance is having too high an opinion of yourself. I believe I have a purely objective view of my abilities. I won’t hide what I know, but I also won’t hide my ignorance when there’s something I don’t know.
(2) Good emotional control: I’m extremely choleric. Some emotions I can control, but not anger.
(3) Philosophy: Your biggest miss. Philosophy is one of my areas of expertise. I would hazard that I am as well read in philosophy as anyone on this forum. In addition, if your speculation about my sex drive was that it’s low, it’s not. Perhaps you made an assumption based on the fact that I’m a MGTOW (a pretty bad assumption in general).

Handwriting analysis, as I told General Kenobi, in essence is the study of the correlation patterns and deviations of writing patterns to actual human phenomena. Analyzing such allows me to predict or guess on a person’s internal nature that they don’t show as easily to others. I’m in no way a fortunte teller. But this tool allows me to gain a bit of insight into what kind of person you are as opposed to any other stranger you may come across.

Let’s say perhaps that I indeed only got those 3 things correct. If I were to have a conversation with you, I could probably shoot down each of those points, until I brought up numbers, human nature takes over at that point and you would become interested. At that point its just a matter of reading the hidden messages your subconcious is sending. That’s how this stuff works. It’s not some hockus pockus palm reading fortune, its more logical than that.

Last, you said I prefer to be in a crowd, but also that I keep to myself. Seems like a contradiction to me. In any event, the latter is correct.

No…I meant what I said. You tend to keep your affairs private, and avoid the limelight. You will walk with the crowd in an attempt to blend into the backround. Please let me know if this guess was wrong.

I appreciate your analysis, and I’m interested to hear more. Overall, your description sounded like a horoscope: a collection of very generalized statements which have a good chance of being true about many people. Further, I suspect you may have made some guesses based on details from my other posts (like the attention to detail claim: anyone can see I write with good grammar) as well as my presence on this site. However, I’m happy to give you the benefit of the doubt. Would you care to elaborate on how you arrived at your conclusions via my handwriting? I’m especially curious about how you arrived at the wrong conclusions.

The larger the sample size, the more accurate my speculations have the potential to be.
The more personalized your handwriting is, the more specefic than general my guesses can become.

My analysis for you was rather generalized because your sample was generalized. Whether that was done on purpose or not is something I will never know and have to take your word on.

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Penman_Frey wrote:

It’s not some hockus pockus palm reading fortune, its more logical than that.

I’m not saying there’s no basis for your guesses, only that your statements are very general, and therefore similar to horoscopes. Likewise, when only half the guesses are right, it casts doubt on the method used to attain the correct guesses; thus my interest in hearing more about your technique.

Without seeing your handwriting, but simply going by what you’ve typed on this thread, I could list some of your personality traits, and probably get about half of them right as well. Now, I stated my reasoning for your correct guesses, and I think they were very good, which means there’s something to what you say. However, I’m still waiting to hear the reasoning behind the wrong guesses.

Penman_Frey wrote:

No…I meant what I said. You tend to keep your affairs private, and avoid the limelight. You will walk with the crowd in an attempt to blend into the backround. Please let me know if this guess was wrong.

I keep personal things private, but doesn’t pretty much every man? I don’t avoid the limelight either. I avoid crowds in general, but I certainly don’t blend in anywhere. I’d call this one wrong, unless I’m misunderstanding you.

Penman_Frey wrote:

My analysis for you was rather generalized because your sample was generalized. Whether that was done on purpose or not is something I will never know and have to take your word on.

Yes you will know, because I’m about to tell you. It was intentionally general. If the bare handwriting itself, regardless of content, can reveal things about someone’s personality, an analysis of a sample of general text is the best way to prove it.

What I gather so far is this: handwriting can indeed reveal some minor details about someone. You may have simply gotten lucky, but I find it credible that neat handwriting suggests organizational skills, and that letters appearing similar to numbers suggests someone who uses numbers frequently. It’s not much, but it’s something.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

Penman_Frey wrote:

It’s not some hockus pockus palm reading fortune, its more logical than that.

I’m not saying there’s no basis for your guesses, only that your statements are very general, and therefore similar to horoscopes. Likewise, when only half the guesses are right, it casts doubt on the method used to attain the correct guesses; thus my interest in hearing more about your technique.

Fair enough.

Without seeing your handwriting, but simply going by what you’ve typed on this thread, I could list some of your personality traits, and probably get about half of them right as well. Now, I stated my reasoning for your correct guesses, and I think they were very good, which means there’s something to what you say. However, I’m still waiting to hear the reasoning behind the wrong guesses.
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Again fair enough, as for the reasonings that led to my conclusions, I listed every single one of them. The first list consisted of unbias and directly observed tendencies in your handwriting. I translated that to the correlating human phenomena associated to that observation. I could go more in detail, which I think is what you would like to learn about, and I will. But not here. I’ll make a separate thread for that.

Penman_Frey wrote:

No…I meant what I said. You tend to keep your affairs private, and avoid the limelight. You will walk with the crowd in an attempt to blend into the backround. Please let me know if this guess was wrong.

I keep personal things private, but doesn’t pretty much every man? I don’t avoid the limelight either. I avoid crowds in general, but I certainly don’t blend in anywhere. I’d call this one wrong, unless I’m misunderstanding you.

Not necessarily. This group is comprised of like minded individuals so it shouldn’t be surprising that your traits will overlap with others here. And again, i’ll go over how these techniques and methods work in another thread.

Penman_Frey wrote:

My analysis for you was rather generalized because your sample was generalized. Whether that was done on purpose or not is something I will never know and have to take your word on.

Yes you will know, because I’m about to tell you. It was intentionally general. If the bare handwriting itself, regardless of content, can reveal things about someone’s personality, an analysis of a sample of general text is the best way to prove it.

You’re both correct and incorrect on this.
Yes in a way, an analysis of an intentionally general sample will innevitably reveal general information. This is the conventional concept that you’re thinking of.

The unconventional part of this is looking at despite your best effort to create a purposely general sample, your handwriting will still reveal hints that your brain is subcontiously writing. This is more noticeable when the handwriting sample is large. People who are aware of the fact that their handwriting can be analyzed will attempt to mask their writing, but the longer the sample, the more their subconcious mind overrides their concious minds and some of their tendancies slip. Again, I don’t know if this was on purpose or not, but your sample was brief and short. So I can only get so much from it.

What I gather so far is this: handwriting can indeed reveal some minor details about someone. You may have simply gotten lucky, but I find it credible that neat handwriting suggests organizational skills, and that letters appearing similar to numbers suggests someone who uses numbers frequently. It’s not much, but it’s something.

Neat handwriting does not necessarily equate to organizational skills, in fact an sample that gives an impression that the write seeks to write perfectly may suggest a dark and ulterior nature.

The number thing is actually more common than you would think. You’re the third person I’ve analyzed with that writing trait.

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[DocParticipant]

Penman_Frey wrote:

DocDJ wrote:

Penman_Frey wrote:

Typing by far takes the cake as far as day to day communication goes, I will not even try to dispute that. It’s one of the quickest and most efficient ways of transcribing information from one place to another.

Handwriting on the otherhand is a bit different. A lot of people view handwriting the same way, a medium of transcribing information from one place to the next. Which it is. But that’s not the sole and only value it has. Handwriting is our individualized communication. It’s like our fingerprint. There was such a time before computers and the like were made, were handwriting and penmenship dictated your worth to society.

I’m not saying you should abandon typing in favor for handwriting all togehter. That’s unrealistic and you should never do that. I’ll never do that.

I cannot force nor will I ever ask you to give your penmanship another shot. That’s on you. But what I will ask of you is to hear me out on this: When you type something instead of handwrite it. You sacrifice the intimacy with the message you created, in favor for the masses. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that. And it works for things like essays to your professor or emails to your co-workers. Or heck, even this post. But that’s not necessarily the best tool for every job. What I would like to do, is offer you another tool to add to the tool box.

And if that’s not enough for ya, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85bqT904VWA

With due respect, Why would I want to be analysed.
My day job requires me myself to do that.
I don’t need analysing by anybody.
Critical feedback to my post, yes. But analysis? Way head of you.

You don’t if you don’t want to. I’ll tell you what I told Can’t Stump Trump: Not trying to force this onto you, just offering you another tool for the tool box.

Ok Penman Frey.
Others have welcomed you and I accept that but you do seem a bit suspicious.
Look at this from my point of view – trollers come here and become immediately argumentative. We get wise to their ways so that have to come back with a different strategy. Offer us something so our guards come down.

The thing that piques my ‘anxiety’ is why does your avatar have t~~~?

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[ghostParticipant]

Doc wrote:

The thing that piques my ‘anxiety’ is why does your avatar have t~~~?

You guys are really giving Frey a hard time. I think he’s fine.

[DocParticipant]

ghost wrote:

DocDJ wrote:

The thing that piques my ‘anxiety’ is why does your avatar have t~~~?

You guys are really giving Frey a hard time. I think he’s fine.

I appreciate that he may very well be. And if I am wrong I will be the first to back down and apologize Gambit.

Frey – please don’t take it personally. It is just curiosity. If you are a dude who’s down with what we do then you are most welcome and I am sorry for the challenge.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[ghostParticipant]

Doc wrote:

I appreciate that he may very well be. And if I am wrong I will be the first to back down and apologize Gambit.

He is a younger guy who is misunderstood at times. I have spoken with him on PM and he is a fine young man.

I have also noticed how he has politely responded to everyone here.

Just my humble opinion.

[Anonymous 6]

Hey give the guy a chance. Being a bit unconventional in our own ways is what MGTOW is about.

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

Doc wrote:

Penman_Frey wrote:

DocDJ wrote:

Penman_Frey wrote:

Typing by far takes the cake as far as day to day communication goes, I will not even try to dispute that. It’s one of the quickest and most efficient ways of transcribing information from one place to another.

Handwriting on the otherhand is a bit different. A lot of people view handwriting the same way, a medium of transcribing information from one place to the next. Which it is. But that’s not the sole and only value it has. Handwriting is our individualized communication. It’s like our fingerprint. There was such a time before computers and the like were made, were handwriting and penmenship dictated your worth to society.

I’m not saying you should abandon typing in favor for handwriting all togehter. That’s unrealistic and you should never do that. I’ll never do that.

I cannot force nor will I ever ask you to give your penmanship another shot. That’s on you. But what I will ask of you is to hear me out on this: When you type something instead of handwrite it. You sacrifice the intimacy with the message you created, in favor for the masses. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that. And it works for things like essays to your professor or emails to your co-workers. Or heck, even this post. But that’s not necessarily the best tool for every job. What I would like to do, is offer you another tool to add to the tool box.

And if that’s not enough for ya, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85bqT904VWA

With due respect, Why would I want to be analysed.
My day job requires me myself to do that.
I don’t need analysing by anybody.
Critical feedback to my post, yes. But analysis? Way head of you.

You don’t if you don’t want to. I’ll tell you what I told Can’t Stump Trump: Not trying to force this onto you, just offering you another tool for the tool box.

Ok Penman Frey.
Others have welcomed you and I accept that but you do seem a bit suspicious.
Look at this from my point of view – trollers come here and become immediately argumentative. We get wise to their ways so that have to come back with a different strategy. Offer us something so our guards come down.

The thing that piques my ‘anxiety’ is why does your avatar have t~~~?

Umm…I’m my superiors have told me i’m a very “literal person” if that helps?

As for trolling…Again I apologize if my initial impression came across as such. But do you really think i’m going to waste an entire day in an attempt to waste what…5 minutes, if that of any of your time? If that has happened in the past, then you have my apologies for having put up with such stupidity. But i’ll reiterate what I’ve said before. I’m not here to waste time.

My eyes have widened but that’s it. I’m not all knowing. And i’m sure as hell not a genius. I’m here to educate myself.

One thing I will have to ask of you however is to not mistake my blunt forwardness as an agrumentative and combative front. I’m a very respectful, and even in my job I have firm respect for my superiors and my coworkers. I have nothing to gain from disrespecting from you. And if you call me out for something i’m wrong on. I’ll gladly learn from that lesson.

But if you call me out for something that doesn’t sit right with me, or something I don’t stand for, then you damn better believe i’ll come right back at you.

As for my avatar having t~~~…
Uh…
Been looking at it for 5 minutes…I had to really zoom in to see what you were talking about…
I mean…
I…don’t really have a response to that…
I picked out the avatar because I like headphones, and I found the cross to be somewhat fitting since i’m a Christian…There really wasn’t any particular reason beyond that…

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[ghostParticipant]

He is a good Christian, MGTOW brother. He is not a troll.

[Anonymous 14]

Hold on a second there Penman, you mention the cross, but your avatar shows it upside down……

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

Anonymous wrote:

Hold on a second there Penman, you mention the cross, but your avatar shows it upside down……

Yep I noticed that too after looking at it really closely a few moments ago. Maybe the artist thought it would look better. Or perhaps something more ominous.

Couldn’t really tell ya.

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[Anonymous 14]

Penman_Frey wrote:

General Kenobi wrote:

Hold on a second there Penman, you mention the cross, but your avatar shows it upside down……

Yep I noticed that too after looking at it really closely a few moments ago. Maybe the artist thought it would look better. Or perhaps something more ominous.

Couldn’t really tell ya.

Well, I’ll tell ya. I think it is something more OMINOUS as you say..

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Penman_Frey wrote:

i’ll go over how these techniques and methods work in another thread.

Oh, another thread, eh? Something wrong with this one?

Penman_Frey wrote:

The unconventional part of this is looking at despite your best effort to create a purposely general sample, your handwriting will still reveal hints that your brain is subcontiously writing.

You’re reading too much into it. I wrote that before you even joined the site. I CHOSE it because it was general, but I had no thoughts of masking anything at the time I wrote it.

Anyway, your analysis wasn’t accurate enough for me to take it seriously, but I won’t deny it’s interesting. I may respect it more when I hear more about the method.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

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