Things my gf said…

[BigDParticipant 3024]

I think you should stay with her. Obviously you need more pain. Ask her to pull out the strap on so she can really dominate you and make you cry from the physical violence she’ll inflict on you. Yeah, and after that, tell her how much you love her, and you would walk through a river of acid to be with her. Heck, just hand over your wallet to her now. Have her buy all the things she desires. Don’t worry. She might actually buy you something with your money. After she maxes out all your credit cards, apply for more. It’s free money, don’t you know.

On Friday nights you can sit there with all her little friends and listen to them bad mouth their men while she bad mouths you right in front of you. Just nod your head, laugh, and say “You’re so right.” Then take a sip of your white wine she picked out. Since you’re paying, it didn’t come from a box.

Have a couple of kids. One of them will look like you. You had sex with her right? You do the math in your head and the timing doesn’t seem right. However, she wouldn’t cheat on you. She loves you. Only you she would allow inside of herself. She was a virgin when you met. Right?

I hope you have a good job, sucker… I mean good man. All good men slave away at a job they hate so they can finance the dreams of their wives. Have to have that good job. She needs the money to buy all those “cute” things she just had to have. Don’t worry, you’ll get a new tie for Father’s Day. Christmas, time to max out another card, but you might get a fancy pair of socks with an elf on it.

Time to retire… eventually. You two actually lasted. Isn’t that sweet? The kids don’t come by anymore. In fact, they hate you. You were never there. You were always working your “stupid job”. However, you can’t retire. Too much debt to retire. She spent your nest egg behind your back for that trip to Vegas years ago with her friends. You know, about the time she was pregnant with “your” second child? The one that looks absolutely nothing like you.

Yeah, she’s a winner. However, for every winner there has to be a loser. I guess that will be you. You won at being a loser. Congratulations. Stay with her. Do it. I dare you.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I say make a plan to bail before she tries to trap you. If her girlfriends are more of a priority than you, make your own friends a bigger priority than her, and when she gets mad, say she’s doing the same thing so it’s only fair. I say leave that bitch.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

women who value their friends over you are dangerous. they are who she will go to when she wants to talk about your relationship. guess who she will listen to. guess whose advice she will take. theirs. guess who doesn’t know you or give 2 s~~~s about you. her friends. the very people telling her what to do. brutal situation to stay in.

i think you said you can’t let her go. why? usually when people say that, it’s really because they don’t think they can find someone else or someone else as attractive. you can and you will, if that’s what you want. get rid of her.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[WolfParticipant 890]

sl00tMonkey wrote:

…i also posted on other relationship forums but the opinions are little different…

Out of curiosity, what advice did the other relationship forums give you?

Keymaster wrote:

That stuck out the most. When guys are younger, it can be very discouraging, because girls generally prefer older (more “established”) guys and it’s not until our mid 20s that things start to ramp up for us. Then stupidly, we tend to think the first girl that pays attention to us, talks to us, and bats her eyelashes is “the best I’m ever gonna do”……. but she’s only the best you’ve done SO FAR.

KM is spot on here.

This is your first relationship. You are young. You are not in your prime. Please don’t waste another minute of your time on that t~~~.

Breaking up can be dramatic. I assume you don’t live together, which makes it much easier. She will likely make it dramatic, so you need to say your peace to her and move on – don’t give her an opportunity to manipulate you. Don’t give her a second chance. She has already shown her true colors.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10910]

Sir, every member that posted has told you to bail. Their reasons are spot on and I can’t add anything to that that hasn’t already been said. Just be careful. Cut the ties and DON’T LOOK BACK. I don’t care if she was your first girlfriend YOU OWE HER NOTHING. Once you break up with her she is going to try anything she can to keep you around. You see, she has a game plan and until that game plan is fulfilled you are an unknowing player. She wants her play to succeed and it doesn’t matter who her starting QB is, just as long as her play get ran. After she gets the trophy (Kid and or marriage) she’ll put you or whomever on waivers and stick them with an 18 year contract for an undisclosed amount. They will not get a signing bonus either and then she will sign Chad to a multi-year deal for an disclosed amount.
Be smart.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

Here are two pills, one red, one blue. The choice is now yours. Make no mistake, this is that moment. It could not be more clear.
The men here are correct, your prime time has not yet come. Don’t sacrifice your freedom for this vampire! Everything she is doing is straight out of the script. Even if you want to keep looking for that good fit to have a family and go the old-fashioned route, it is very unlikely that she would be a good choice. Don’t be afraid that she is some kind of “last chance” or something. She’d like to clip your wings when you have not yet even begun to fly!

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[sl00tMonkeyParticipant 16]

i think my main problems are – that im unexperienced, she is my 1st, she is hot and i dont have any game… at the same time my gut feeling is telling me something is not right. because it isnt!

you guys are right. ill take your advices. tnx for your time and support!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

sl00tMonkey wrote:

Because she is hot and i have no game

Ok, real talk here. F~~~ “game”. You’re in your 20’s so you’re “playing” with a huge f~~~ing handicap. So don’t play. If you think you have trouble now, you have no idea how miserable your 30’s are going to be if you let this woman have her way with you. But if you manage to avoid letting this woman ruin you in your 20s your 30’s will be awesome. Women hit the wall at 30. Men jump that wall and find the grass is sooo much greener on the other side, but only if they’re not tied to some woman preventing them from jumping.

I do not have relationship experiences

Well you’re about to have some real serious negative experiences real soon. You are being set up big time.

and because she is my 1st longterm/serious gf.

What of it? Do you buy the first car you test drive? On credit?

I cant let her go.

Bulls~~~. You can let her go. You just don’t want to let her go. You are too attached to the supposed benefits of the relationship to give them up. But you need to understand that those benefits fade. Always. Quickly. And once she locks you down with cohabitation or marriage or an Oops! pregnancy, the benefits in the relationship will be GONE. But all the worst parts will remain. With more s~~~ piled on top. Why would you want that?

The benefits of your relationship with her are temporary. So you have a choice here. You can go along as you are and get hosed with no benefits and no hope. Or you can give up those benefits ON YOUR OWN TERMS and get new benefits elsewhere.

dont know what to do.

Step 1: VASECTOMY. This may sound extreme, but when (not if) she gets pregnant, you’ll be glad you got it. Far far more men regret not getting a vasectomy than getting one.
Step 2: DO NOT TELL HER ABOUT IT. Document the f~~~ out of your surgery results, but keep it a f~~~ing secret.
Step 3: Trade up. Forget all this crap about “game” or the lack thereof. It has almost nothing to do with you or anything about you. You already have one of the biggest f~~~ing cheat codes there is: a hot girlfriend. Women want what other women have, and they love to poach. Trust me, all her friends (and enemies and other associates – often the same thing with women) have been scoping you out and looking for an angle to land you for themselves. Not because of anything about you, but simply because she has you. So give them an angle. And don’t forget to rinse and repeat.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

She is just using you.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[WolfParticipant 890]

sl00tMonkey wrote:

i think my main problems are – that im unexperienced, she is my 1st, she is hot and i dont have any game… at the same time my gut feeling is telling me something is not right. because it isnt!

Damn straight something isn’t right!

Why would a hot 20 something year old chick be with an inexperienced guy that has no game?

If she’s as attractive as you elude, then she has lots of options. So, why you? That’s a rhetorical question – this thread has already addressed her intent.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

FRAME UP MOTHERF~~~ER!!!!!!! *rant over* Man listen please make sure your wearing condoms from this second forward please please please!!!Second you need to take a deep breath and realize you are very young and will get better with time while she is heading spiraling over the cliff. Women are a depreciating asset and her biology is telling her to lock in a baby by 30 when she is heading over the cliff. She may be hot now but not for long. Heres a slide show of Pamela Anderson a Baywatch bombshell back in the 90’s and this my brother is how life kicks them in the ass on the backend.Women have 10 prime good years out of 80+ years of life to extract the most they can, do not EVER think they are doing you any favors by having dealings with you. She’s milk and your wine!
http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/pamela-anderson-plastic-surgery-face-68328/photos/pamela-anderson-august-1992-110554

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[33wolfmanParticipant 216]

Slootmonkey, you are are in the same trap I was with my Ex. GET OUT NOW!!!!!! I can not emphasis this any stronger. Your girl is exhibiting severe narcissistic traits, she will use you up and leave you a dry withered up shell. You are just a toy to her, to play with when she feels like it.

[BDParticipant 1146]

Some great advice given here already Slootmonkey

Keymaster wrote:

sl00tMonkey wrote:
She often reserves her weekend nights for drinks/partying with her girl friends
Tom Leykis says (and I heartily agree);

“if that’s something she needs to do, then she can’t be in a relationship with ME. I’m not controlling or dictatorial, she can do whatever she wants, but she can’t be in a relationship with me”.

Sounds to me like she is using Leykis 101 rules on YOU! If you are not familiar with them then study up.

sl00tMonkey wrote:

, got text massage before bed so i know she thinks about me… but then comes the day or a week or a period of time I get a feeling I dont really matter to her at all.

This stood out for me. And she texts you when you are at games. I have had several LTR’s (Long term relationships) text me in similar situations, however, as my ego wanted me to believe that she was doing it out of concern for my feelings, or to show she cares, it was really to confirm my location because she was cheating on me. Not to be paranoid, but this does happen.

Actions speak louder than words, always judge people by their actions. Her actions are throwing up more red flags than China. Run.

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

SlootMonkey
1) Like someone said.The off and on,hot and cold,intermittent reinforcement is nothing less than BRAIN WASHING.
2)Are you a gambling man?A betting man?Do you go around betting thousands? Tens of thousands? That’s what you are doing with this womyn. Betting you life away and you already KNOW it’s a BAD bet.
3)She has already shown that she has knowledge into how to manipulate. What you can expect from her in a few short years is psychological abuse.Heart ache heart break, emotional trauma.I would bet all the dollars in my wallet that she has had a negative effect on your self esteem. Hence you thinking you will never find another. Tell you the truth and abusive ex told me that kind of s~~~ before. But she had already been doing things to f~~~ with my mind so I already had thoughts like that in the back of my head. Abundantly clear she is no sweet, innocent little angel. She’s crafty manipulative and someone or someones has schooled her how to play the emotions of men.
4)Any one who has a problem with someone being ” Too Nice ” is f~~~ed in the head.I mean really that is another huge red flag. Anyone who thinks like that has a f~~~ed up personality. Think about it.There is something really wrong with someone who would complain about someone being too nice.When you care about someone, when you are in love with someone you want to do things for them.When your desire to be kind,to be nice causes them disgust then they or she is the one with A problem. .A MGTOW truth is there are a lot of women like that.
5)She is hot you say.So f~~~ing what.!Would you let her cut you with a knife because she’s hot,?Beat you with a bat?Abuse your children? Would you commit a crime for her because she is hot, ?What would you think about a woman who is not as pretty but really cared about you and treated you a lot better? My point is beauty is skin deep.Under the skin she is a predator and a parasite.
6)Breaking up dosent have to be a chore.Next time she calls you could tell her to leave you alone. To give it some finality you could say I hate you.
7)I’m old enough to be your father and i remember well when I was in your shoes. I wish I could just step back to when I was your age and tell a certain woman to leave me alone. Avoid for yourself a lifetime of troubles .Just drop her like a hotel coal.Before you get badly burned.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MemberParticipant 323]

– She plainly said she wants a kid and it will be you or the next guy. That alone shows that she considers you to be interchangeable and replaceable instantly.
– Little to no sex and you are young. No matter what her hang up is its not your problem and low libido at your age is not tolerable.
– She has never seen you play even one game? She thinks so little of you that she cant even come to an occasional game.

In short her relationship with you is based strictly on her needs. If she was into you none of the above things would be happening. Pick a date and break up with her…..do it now before you get into a worse situation.

It sounds simple but if you too aren’t having regular sex AND don’t enjoy each others company on the regular then you don’t have a future. All the other excuses and smoke screens she is putting up are BS. Don’t even worry about what her reasons are…….she has proven in many different ways she is not right for you. You are probably a nice guy like the others said and a lot of people will abuse that. Save the niceness for someone who actually deserves it…not this one.

[Jack123Participant 324]

I agree with all of the mgtow brothers.

I speak from experience and 6 months ago I left a beautiful girl only to go back to her. This was a mistake but I was brainwashed by her bulls~~~ and I, like you, believed I needed her, was in love and couldn’t do any better.

You may need to stay for longer and eat more pain in order to realise you are unhappy. The correct advise is to leave but if and when you do is up to you.

In my experience, I needed 1.5 years of pain for me to wake up from toxic relationships. How long will you need?

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

BigD wrote:

I think you should stay with her. Obviously you need more pain. Ask her to pull out the strap on so she can really dominate you and make you cry from the physical violence she’ll inflict on you. Yeah, and after that, tell her how much you love her, and you would walk through a river of acid to be with her. Heck, just hand over your wallet to her now. Have her buy all the things she desires. Don’t worry. She might actually buy you something with your money. After she maxes out all your credit cards, apply for more. It’s free money, don’t you know.

On Friday nights you can sit there with all her little friends and listen to them bad mouth their men while she bad mouths you right in front of you. Just nod your head, laugh, and say “You’re so right.” Then take a sip of your white wine she picked out. Since you’re paying, it didn’t come from a box.

Have a couple of kids. One of them will look like you. You had sex with her right? You do the math in your head and the timing doesn’t seem right. However, she wouldn’t cheat on you. She loves you. Only you she would allow inside of herself. She was a virgin when you met. Right?

I hope you have a good job, sucker… I mean good man. All good men slave away at a job they hate so they can finance the dreams of their wives. Have to have that good job. She needs the money to buy all those “cute” things she just had to have. Don’t worry, you’ll get a new tie for Father’s Day. Christmas, time to max out another card, but you might get a fancy pair of socks with an elf on it.

Time to retire… eventually. You two actually lasted. Isn’t that sweet? The kids don’t come by anymore. In fact, they hate you. You were never there. You were always working your “stupid job”. However, you can’t retire. Too much debt to retire. She spent your nest egg behind your back for that trip to Vegas years ago with her friends. You know, about the time she was pregnant with “your” second child? The one that looks absolutely nothing like you.

Yeah, she’s a winner. However, for every winner there has to be a loser. I guess that will be you. You won at being a loser. Congratulations. Stay with her. Do it. I dare you.

This whole post…..

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[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

It must be one of the best of your posts here BigD, hat’s off.

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[Terminus EstParticipant 145]

She doesn’t respect you because you need her more than she needs you. Hence, she is not pursuing you.

You can:

1) break up before she is pregnant with your kid and you become a beta atm machine.

or

2) stop being a beta nice boy who thinks he can do no better than her and has to behave and be grateful for what he has.
Instead, stop living in her frame and start living with you as priority number 1. She should be in YOUR frame and an addition to YOUR life, never the other way around!

Afraid this will displease her and you may lose her? Think again. She’ll start respecting you, your sex life will increase and you will become her priority.

[experiencedParticipant]

Do the logic.
You “got” her didn’t you?
You can just as easily “get” another her.
Is this one worth staying with?……………….shake head left right NO. (with vigor)
Can you logically get another?…………………………nod YES.
get another one now.

Dump her ass…………..yesterday.
Do it, dump her, now.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

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