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    Professor Chaos
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    Just want to chime in and address use of the term ‘stink hole’ which is one of many adjectives that I have read in the forums to describe a vagina.
    During my blue pill era, had my share of dining at the Hole Buffet and need to reiterate:
    None of them had unpleasant odor or where percieves my me to be gross or not consumable.
    There was even one (flight attendant) that would get home after being at the gym for a couple of hours and that made her even more deliscious. She had an intoxicating blend of pheromones, sweat, etc that was really addictive.
    Anyway. Please stop projecting your own warped experiences with holes that were either not hygienic, clean or that were gross.
    That is not the experience of a large percentage of men that are actually heterosexual and do not have the same view that vaginas are gross or dirty.

    I guess the large vaginal odor control industry is just a scam…Cmon man!!!!

    Some pussies smell bad. Period.

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    Okay, I call it. Sky – O works in Marketing, or happens to be a VERY good Lawyer, and that’s why this thread got derailed!

    “why yes, this car does catch on fire, BUT LOOK AT THE LEATHER INTERIOR! Ain’t it something? ” And then the original meaning or purpose of the thread just goes into another direction. This is a great conversational tactic. Something I notice that my Old Probation officer tried to pull.

    I Digress. (I really hate that word Digress)

    As far as sacrifice and how it relates to Blue pill men being stupid? That’s more like a rule of thumb to me. In essence, the spreadsheet mentioned as a method to keep a tally on cost Vs. Benefit is a strange way of calculating values to anyone not familiar with what is really going on here when dealing with women.

    In fact, I think it’s not a very good yardstick to even bother with. In reality, or on Paper, there is no real benefit to female companionship that can not be calculated into numbers. The value of a woman has this value that can only be summed up when the value to that person or male is known.

    We have the basic things that we account for such as sex, and companionship. But from a Blue Pill Mindset, these things are just bonuses and not the real value of the relationship to value in itself.

    If we really wanted to be honest, women really are only looking for the next big score, then it seems that as women have no real traits of loyalty and have only 3 stages of morality as per men that have 6 as the study conducted on this theory produced by Lawrence Kohlberg’s stages of moral development states.

    In reality, a spreadsheet or just doing cost Vs. Benefit analysis. Women don’t make any sense at all if you use this metric. So you have to find some other way to justify women in your life and the risks that come with them.

    So then you have to use the argument that it satisfies your desires. But even that does not hold water since most of your desire is driven by Hormones. So then you reduce it down to sex and companionship of the opposite sex being pleasurable. Kind of like a warm fireplace, and a nice chair, with a great drink, and a some entertainment to boot.

    Problem is, women for the most part only possess these things if YOU give it to them. Or you provide them with some kind of value. For women, that means that as soon as their is a better option, you cease to exist until your value supersedes that of another male partner. Or, at that time she does not have access to that male partner. So naturally, you are always a second choice.

    That’s a tough pill to swallow. Women are forever only getting their second option. Since the first option they get is always the second option if that makes sense.

    See bascily, women as soon as they “Have you ” means that they have to by default monkey branch to a better offering. If they can’t do any better, women feel trapped. If they feel they can do better, women feel trapped.

    It’s a strange thing really, as women are as loyal as their options. Problem is, they see no value in you as a person at all. Only that you are easy company willing company. And you do in fact satisfy her sexual needs on some level. But she does not operate in the same way as you find sex with a female.
    It’s a weird thing how women do not find any real value in a good sex partner as being a companion. You are less valuable than a kitchen appliance if you think about it from a woman’s perspective. And once you try to add that into your spreadsheet doing your cost benefit analysis, you already see that women are really no value at all.

    Men, even without the justification of a relationship will still and do provide for women regardless on the input or value provided by a woman. This really is the paradox here. Women will be glad to spend time with you knowing that she can never have you, or you are unwilling to bend to her needs, or wants. But the carrot in front of her is the effort she can make to try to control the relationship being the primary driving factor.

    In fact the things that men look for in woman do not exist in women per say, and if found are very rare. So rare in fact, that I sum it up to a genetic fluke.

    Women do not overall have any notion of sacrifice since at the very core, women today stand to lose nothing in a relationship with a man. Actually, almost everything in the past that was used to gauge value of a woman has been thrown out as being archaic, sexist, or down right misogynistic. But these factors such as having intecourse outside of what is acceptable, (The Black Taboo) and that of having a relationship based on religious or cultural taboos are no longer universally accepted detractors of women that can be used to a woman’s detriment to her value to a man.

    So what is left that a woman sacrifices to a man? In reality, there is none as long as she is not within the Wall area. And even so, there always seems to be some man out there that will find value in her for her shortcomings.

    THese can be being fat, lazy, stupid, ugly, retarded, mentally ill, unstable, bitchy, polyamorous, (free spirit) Addiocations, even STD’s she has can help her find her way to others that share the same.

    What DOES impact her is her quality of life that she is able to enjoy. And since women don’t really care about as stated that she will be happy to f~~~ the broke loser bad boy just because it makes her feel better to be used is an odd paradox to how we see value to how they see value or worth.

    The sad fact is, some of us men did this without even being married. So in fact, she was getting twice the great deal being that she was married or had kids in a prior relationship, and brought those along for the ride at your expense.

    Now consider this, as a man, you dumped all sorts of value on women. Even women you did not know. What is the balance on that spreadsheet now. I can tell you that you are in the negative if you take into account all that you really do for women. And that is just you being your wonderful self. The very fact of the matter is, women are in the negative and need to try to show some worth to a man. As it is, as far as I know, women are universally better treated them men are. And that’s a solid fact around the world.

    And this thing about women and sex. See, that’s the most stupidest argument out there. WIthout you? She has ZERO SEXUAL VALUE. And even though many women can be pleasant to be around, there is nothing that she can do that can not be obtained for less than $20 bucks. However, the opposite is true of men.

    The things that men offer women are not even accounted for. In fact if she did need something from a man, (her wants, her needs, her Thing that needs fixing etc) the costs go up so high that she doesn’t even have the ability to afford such basic wants on the average income women make.

    In fact, the reason why women go on dates and scramble for men’s attention is that men provide something to women that women are just simply incapable of doing themselves until they reach the $250,000 a year stratosphere. And even then, the lifestyle they live is still no where as near as a man can provide to her even though that man makes less than 35,000 a year. No kidding.

    So really, men are the ones making ALL of the sacrifice, and women? What are they losing out on? That is the BIGGEST F~~~ you to women that nature has ever given them. No matter what, the more freedom a woman wants, the more she finds out there is no freedom in her pursuit of freedom.

    See, Men offer something that women can never value. That is love. So all they can do with that is use it to their advantage. However, as a red Pilled man, you know that is worthless to her as it is only used as a way to control you or to extract more from you. Sadly, the more you care about a woman the less she respects you. Strange how that is.

    That’s the hardest pill to swallow over the things that men sacrificed. We would give the world to a woman, and she won’t give us anything that she would not give anyone else. That’s the rub.

    So when you put that down in your spreadsheet, you see that there is no way to not be in the Red with women. And Being in the black is just about impossible today.

    I can’t state this enough. Men give all they can, and women give you nothing in return that you can’t get anywhere else. That’s the most f~~~ed up part about this whole ordeal.

    Marriage, relationships, sex partners, Women Co workers, whatever relationship you have had with a woman is a negative. Even a woman’s aesthetic beauty wears off.

    Now if you take into account all that you do, and all that she does, you quickly find out that the “Hot Pockets” she has just are not worth the price of your involvement.

    Sure, let me make this clear, women CAN BE a great time. Some are wonderful to be around. But that’s where it all breaks down. You as a man want more, but women don’t have anything for you.

    So what do women use to exploit men? Sex is one thing, but what really takes the cake here is that WOMEN say that they are having CHILDREN for YOUR BENEFIT and that was a WOMAN’S SACRIFICE? ….. Think about that clearly for a moment and you will start to see stars with the amount of bulls~~~ that women use to justify their struggles.

    In fact women are duly rewarded for having children. And in fact, without children, she is actually at a severe economic, social, and moral disadvantage. Not only is she useless as a woman per say, (the core reason why nature keeps women around) she also has just shown to be only good to be a second tier human in general since she really does not do anything but consume. But in fact, her sole reason for existence now is to satisfy men’s sexual urges that soon, will have a complete replacement as well. In fact, her role as just a companion for friendship is also being fastley replaced.

    So if you think about it, a man just being alive is a godsend to women everywhere. Even ones that she has never met benefit her. All women everywhere use men from their own backyards to across the world. So what does that tell you?

    Now add to the fact that the laws, the courts systems and everything out there punishes men for being loyal to just one woman, and then you got your answer of how you should fill out that spreadsheet.

    In fact, if you want to see women at their happiest? Look toward Highschool and college. The government actually pays women to enjoy their lives. And that’s ALL from the backs of men. Are you feeling a bit ill yet?

    Like it or not, this is where that f~~~ed up mindset comes from the so called “Incells” and “Tradcucks” that say that this trade of sex is a good tradeoff with women in their current state of our western society. But to the Red Pilled guy out there? You get to see the situation for what it really truly is.

    Again, this may be why wars were conducted since as many men knew on top or at least in the back of their minds, if women do not truly have something to fear of the lack of men being around, then and only then does that scare them straight. Meanwhile, they will still be complaining and bitching about the whole thing until that very same attitude bites them in the ass.

    There is one great thing however in all this. As MGTOW men? None of this is any sort of negative on a man’s life. This has got to be the greatest time to live ever as long as you never got burned in the first place. And as a man that HAS been burned? You just got the free ticket pass to not to ever give a f~~~ about the situation we currently have in place.

    In fact, you should revel in this time since this is the first time in history that Men are now in mass figuring out that there is zero benefit to bothering with the social pressures put on men of the past. Almost all of our social responsibilities towards women are gone. And we have indeed made a world where they are in fact about to get as equal as they have ever dreamed off.

    The severe problem that men face today, is how are you going to spend all that time you have now to do what you want. Women are now the ones that have to bear the responsibility for the world they created. And just as we men have had to deal with the pain and sacrifices that we made? Its THERE TURN NOW.

    We have been playing this game for a Milenia. It’s time to let this conundrum of a paradox happen & allow women to once again understand that men are not something to be taken lightly.

    LIke it or not, they burden men today with the sins of their forefathers. Well, if it works one way, then it should also work the other way as well. If you have historically been blamed for all the world’s ills? Don’t you think that it’s about time that you get to turn the card around and state that women need to be able to run things while men take that very needed break that women have had the luxury of being able to enjoy?

    Yea, I know, its reverse theory in a matter of speaking. But as you can tell, women don’t really want help. They WANT it this way. Hell, they are begging you and trying to tell you to stop. Why else would they go through so much effort to f~~~ you over?

    Take the hint. Stop with marriage, stop with having children, and just take care of your needs and your OWN SELF. Do not bother with their needs, and don’t bother doing anything for them. They are BEGGING YOU TO STOP. Again TAKE THE HINT!

    Women don’t want you to take care of them. They don’t want or need love from you. They need you to step the f~~~ away, be that f~~~ toy bad boy, and make sure you spread the love and share yourself with as many as you can and never commit and be selfish to just have just one.

    Don’t bother helping, and don’t bother screwing over another man that can extract resource from them such as money to change a tire for them or any labor they ask of you. That should be your goal.

    You do this? You are only helping the whole world out. Make WOMEN ALL THAT THEY CAN BE. If they don’t want that role, to bad. They asked for it, and they will have to either evolve just like we men have. Or they can learn to accept just what Men have had to learn the hard way.

    Just keep your body STD free, get a doll to take care of most of your needs and invest in women’s replacement like they are BEGGING YOU TO DO!

    Why not do something TRULY heroic that will show women all over the world that you are Indeed that caring man they really are asking for. They don’t want to be women. They want to be men. LET THEM!

    We don’t have their baggage. We got a hole other problem that needs to be fixed and we need to start investing and pushing resources that way.

    In fact, I would not hesitate to point out that there is always going to be someone better than you. Might as well make sure women have every opportunity to gain that desire that they have. And in fact, all the things that men want from women, women are INCAPABLE OF PROVIDING. The deal was always bulls~~~.

    And so is the value of women. Technology as proven that. Its only a matter of time before the rest of mankind will adapt accordingly. And by that time in the future? No one is even going to feel sorry for women. Or the men that took the bad deal. The only thing that’s history is going to remember is that at one time, women and men were at some kid of odds with each other. How wonderful it will be when women are just things you buy at the Dollhouse, and are more luxury items and home conveniences rather then what they really are today.

    You can’t imagine this future since you can’t understand just how pathetic the system in place is now. Once the Replicant humans take the place of women, there is no looking back. The idea of men and women even living together is going to be some neanderthal disillusion of how backwards humans were at one point and how closely they resemble animals. IN fact, less than animals in many aspects.

    Like it or not, you have been fooled into thinking that women are the natural process for men. This is how badly the system was rigged. And for milenia, men have had to take this sour grapes deal. And women had to as well.

    One great benefit to this is that as soon as we find a viable replacement for women, women can now be free to do as they like and never fear any kind of injury of sex, childbirth, even emotional labor that is so intensive for a woman and some men if I recall correctly.

    That’s the part that is going to be the biggest shocker. As soon as women have a physical replacment for sex, the main purpose of war kind of goes out the window as men overall don’t really require much to be happy. Women overall are the main reasons for war, strife, and all sorts of nonsense treatment we do to others. Remove that Jealousy component and replace it with a viable model that everyone has the ability to access, and women’s value only seems to be in reproduction. And that really is for the Government. Not for men in general.

    The Artificial Womb combined with a real replacement for women not only ensures a better reproductive life cycle, it guarantees positive output of the next generation.

    That’s what’s awaiting us. A world that has Solved the problems of women everywhere. Men no longer value them any more then what they are. People. And the whole stigma of even looking at a woman is going to go out the window when a much better option of tailor made women is made JUST for a man. And has the one thing a woman can NEVER provide for his sacrifices that men have done traditionally over the years.

    That’s the most amazing part of living right now. You get to be the generation that changed it all.

    Hell, you van even make the new generation of kids completely genetically Multiracial. Multi ethnicity, it’s a SJWs Wet dream.

    What are they going to do when everyone being born is of the same exact great stock as the next one? Boy it sure is a great way to change the world. And the best part is? Anyone can be apart of the process. Men, women, Zirs, Zims, etc. Etc.

    That’s the best part. You get to use that shame that gave you to your benefit. Personally, I don’t see anything wrong when you can now not only have a safe space all of your own? You can even not deal with a single person or idea that does not fit your own narrative!

    And it all started with a MAN going his own way. That’s the most poetic part. By telling walking away from women, you set them free. By walking away from relationships with women? You no longer can be held responsible for anything they try to blame you for. You also don’t have to give anything to women. Or keep on sacrificing for society for that matter. But you are indeed noble for your sacrifice of not harming women by not dealing with them in the slightest or enabling women to seek their own misfortune & ruin you in fact encouraged to let happen.

    Imagine that. A place where anyone can have any life they want, and they can’t get into yours. They never know what’s going on in your personal life, and so? Nothing can affect them. That’s the best ending of all time to this horrible nightmare we all helped create.

    Thankfully, women will be able to do just as they wish. And you get to congratulate all of them on their stunning bravery.

    So see, your sacrifice did not go unrewarded. SO enjoy this time. Be Happy. And let’s celebrate the world women helped pushed to create. And the men that made it ALL possible to finally free us seek a better outcome for men, women & children everywhere. No mater what state they are in. Even the massive amounts of abortion are credits to women’s commitment to the future well being of mankind and woman kind.

    🙂

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