THE SACRIFICES

[BachelorlifestyleParticipant 291]

Although all of us are not wealthy or rich I’m for sure you fellas have made some sacrifices for the family. I myself Sometimes daydream of what I would’ve sacrificed for my family to be comfortable. Like ride the bus and give her the car or take the lesser item so the rest can have the better. BUT I lucked up and didn’t bust a nut in her so I’m free. But mainly it was the thought that counted which I’m sure you fellas those whom married had on your mind at that time in your life.

Crazy cause I’m sure a woman NEVER thinks of what she would give up for a male to live better or be comfortable. Only thing she gives up is something she got for free and that’s the stink hole. More and more everyday I get to sit back and just hear these females without them being aware of my knowledge of gmow and it’s GREAT! Still jumping in my camaro and gunning it!

Me first

[Sky-OParticipant 18949]

Just want to chime in and address use of the term ‘stink hole’ which is one of many adjectives that I have read in the forums to describe a vagina.

During my blue pill era, had my share of dining at the Hole Buffet and need to reiterate:

None of them had unpleasant odor or where percieves my me to be gross or not consumable.

There was even one (flight attendant) that would get home after being at the gym for a couple of hours and that made her even more deliscious. She had an intoxicating blend of pheromones, sweat, etc that was really addictive.

Anyway. Please stop projecting your own warped experiences with holes that were either not hygienic, clean or that were gross.

That is not the experience of a large percentage of men that are actually heterosexual and do not have the same view that vaginas are gross or dirty.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22546]

Sky-O wrote:

Just want to chime in and address use of the term ‘stink hole’ which is one of many adjectives that I have read in the forums to describe a vagina.
During my blue pill era, had my share of dining at the Hole Buffet and need to reiterate:
None of them had unpleasant odor or where percieves my me to be gross or not consumable.
There was even one (flight attendant) that would get home after being at the gym for a couple of hours and that made her even more deliscious. She had an intoxicating blend of pheromones, sweat, etc that was really addictive.
Anyway. Please stop projecting your own warped experiences with holes that were either not hygienic, clean or that were gross.
That is not the experience of a large percentage of men that are actually heterosexual and do not have the same view that vaginas are gross or dirty.

You can shut the hell up too.

Plenty of normal guys have had bad experiences ‘down there’ with unpleasant odors. I myself have liked them but many have a smell of a tuna can, and I am not a seafood lover and so those gals were very unappealing to have a nose close by.

Its not about not liking a vagina, its about some emitting an unfavorable odor. Some are fine, some are great, as in your case where you have a high attraction to a certain womans pheromones, and some are bad.

Given how many c~~~s run through a modern womans vagina its a much higher chance of finding one that doesn’t smell that great to a guy.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[BachelorlifestyleParticipant 291]

Sky-O wrote:

Just want to chime in and address use of the term ‘stink hole’ which is one of many adjectives that I have read in the forums to describe a vagina.
During my blue pill era, had my share of dining at the Hole Buffet and need to reiterate:
None of them had unpleasant odor or where percieves my me to be gross or not consumable.
There was even one (flight attendant) that would get home after being at the gym for a couple of hours and that made her even more deliscious. She had an intoxicating blend of pheromones, sweat, etc that was really addictive.
Anyway. Please stop projecting your own warped experiences with holes that were either not hygienic, clean or that were gross.
That is not the experience of a large percentage of men that are actually heterosexual and do not have the same view that vaginas are gross or dirty.

. I see I believe you guys are viewing it the wrong way “stink hole” “vagina hole” “pussy hole” is all the same in no way have I been down on a stinky pussy hole! It was more of in terms of a stinky attitude woman.

Me first

[BachelorlifestyleParticipant 291]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Sky-O wrote:

Just want to chime in and address use of the term ‘stink hole’ which is one of many adjectives that I have read in the forums to describe a vagina.During my blue pill era, had my share of dining at the Hole Buffet and need to reiterate:None of them had unpleasant odor or where percieves my me to be gross or not consumable.There was even one (flight attendant) that would get home after being at the gym for a couple of hours and that made her even more deliscious. She had an intoxicating blend of pheromones, sweat, etc that was really addictive.Anyway. Please stop projecting your own warped experiences with holes that were either not hygienic, clean or that were gross.That is not the experience of a large percentage of men that are actually heterosexual and do not have the same view that vaginas are gross or dirty.

You can shut the hell up too.
Plenty of normal guys have had bad experiences ‘down there’ with unpleasant odors. I myself have liked them but many have a smell of a tuna can, and I am not a seafood lover and so those gals were very unappealing to have a nose close by.
Its not about not liking a vagina, its about some emitting an unfavorable odor. Some are fine, some are great, as in your case where you have a high attraction to a certain womans pheromones, and some are bad.
Given how many c~~~s run through a modern womans vagina its a much higher chance of finding one that doesn’t smell that great to a guy.

the. The chick I pump and dump pussy smells like water giving she’s bisexual. 👌

Me first

[BachelorlifestyleParticipant 291]

Now I sit back and look at what y’all two wrote and y’all totally missed the point I was saying “sacrifices” instead y’all went straight to the pussy seems like you liked the plantation!

Me first

[AwakenedParticipant 35204]

Bachelorlifestyle wrote:

I myself Sometimes daydream of what I would’ve sacrificed for my family to be comfortable

Men “plan/daydream” of the sacrifices that they may have to make for a wife and family whereas a women “plans/daydreams” of all the treats and prizes that she will be able to get AFTER she locks down a Husbank provider and squeezes out a couple/few lil f~~~ trophies.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[JB BooksParticipant 3182]

I’ve had shaved pussy that wasn’t bad at all. On the other hand…

We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Bachelorlifestyle wrote:

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Sky-O wrote:

Just want to chime in and address use of the term ‘stink hole’ which is one of many adjectives that I have read in the forums to describe a vagina.During my blue pill era, had my share of dining at the Hole Buffet and need to reiterate:None of them had unpleasant odor or where percieves my me to be gross or not consumable.There was even one (flight attendant) that would get home after being at the gym for a couple of hours and that made her even more deliscious. She had an intoxicating blend of pheromones, sweat, etc that was really addictive.Anyway. Please stop projecting your own warped experiences with holes that were either not hygienic, clean or that were gross.That is not the experience of a large percentage of men that are actually heterosexual and do not have the same view that vaginas are gross or dirty.

You can shut the hell up too.Plenty of normal guys have had bad experiences ‘down there’ with unpleasant odors. I myself have liked them but many have a smell of a tuna can, and I am not a seafood lover and so those gals were very unappealing to have a nose close by.Its not about not liking a vagina, its about some emitting an unfavorable odor. Some are fine, some are great, as in your case where you have a high attraction to a certain womans pheromones, and some are bad.Given how many c~~~s run through a modern womans vagina its a much higher chance of finding one that doesn’t smell that great to a guy.

the. The chick I pump and dump pussy smells like water giving she’s bisexual.

Bisexual women are fun.

One of the fun things I did is get the women to eat each other while I did the one on top doggie style. The woman on the bottom licked both of us. If you haven’t done that yet, you all should try that.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[GeraldParticipant 3631]

Gave u pool multiple jobs, some of which may have allowed for international travel, delayed education, gave up vacations, the list could go on forever. Gave up my motorcycle, a sweet convertible, etc…

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Bachelorlifestyle wrote:

Now I sit back and look at what y’all two wrote and y’all totally missed the point I was saying “sacrifices” instead y’all went straight to the pussy seems like you liked the plantation!

I would say at the time that the “sacrifices” weren’t that big of a deal. First world problems. Because, you know, money can’t buy you happiness. So you trade a few toys for the love of a good woman. That’s seems like a pretty fair trade. The problem is that you sacrificed for a narcissistic self-entitled bitch that didn’t appreciate it. Lesson learned.

Now the question is do you “sacrifice” again for another lesson or do you learn from your mistake? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. That’s an old classic because it’s true.

Order the good wine

[BachelorlifestyleParticipant 291]

TaxGuy wrote:

Bachelorlifestyle wrote:

Now I sit back and look at what y’all two wrote and y’all totally missed the point I was saying “sacrifices” instead y’all went straight to the pussy seems like you liked the plantation!

I would say at the time that the “sacrifices” weren’t that big of a deal. First world problems. Because, you know, money can’t buy you happiness. So you trade a few toys for the love of a good woman. That’s seems like a pretty fair trade. The problem is that you sacrificed for a narcissistic self-entitled bitch that didn’t appreciate it. Lesson learned.
Now the question is do you “sacrifice” again for another lesson or do you learn from your mistake? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. That’s an old classic because it’s true.

I totally agree with you on this one thinking logically why the f~~~ would I do it AGAIN.

Me first

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

TaxGuy wrote:

I would say at the time that the “sacrifices” weren’t that big of a deal. First world problems. Because, you know, money can’t buy you happiness. So you trade a few toys for the love of a good woman. That’s seems like a pretty fair trade. The problem is that you sacrificed for a narcissistic self-entitled bitch that didn’t appreciate it. Lesson learned.
Now the question is do you “sacrifice” again for another lesson or do you learn from your mistake? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. That’s an old classic because it’s true.

I will never make that mistake again. One mistake blue or purple pilled men make is to think they simply chose the “wrong woman”. ALL women are the wrong woman.

That is why I periodically make a point of endorsing the gf’s plan to move into a house near my neighborhood in the future. I’ve made it quite plain that I am forever closed off to the ideas of marriage and/or cohabitation. Neither is happening. My house is my house; I don’t want the risk of having a female live with me that could choose one day to make the “one phone call”.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[narwhalParticipant]

Bachelorlifestyle wrote:

Although all of us are not wealthy or rich I’m for sure you fellas have made some sacrifices for the family. I myself Sometimes daydream of what I would’ve sacrificed for my family to be comfortable. Like ride the bus and give her the car or take the lesser item so the rest can have the better. BUT I lucked up and didn’t bust a nut in her so I’m free. But mainly it was the thought that counted which I’m sure you fellas those whom married had on your mind at that time in your life.

Being that I’m divorced with kids, I sometimes consider where I would be if I had never gotten married or had kids, from a financial perspective. The amount of money spent is utterly staggering. I really don’t like to think about it. I usually conclude that I probably would have ended up marrying someone else and ended up in the same spot anyway. And I love my kids and don’t have any regrets in that department. The other side of this is what my financial situation will look like when I no longer have any dependents.

Bachelorlifestyle wrote:

Crazy cause I’m sure a woman NEVER thinks of what she would give up for a male to live better or be comfortable. Only thing she gives up is something she got for free and that’s the stink hole.

I’m going to disagree with this, or maybe agree depending on what you mean by ‘giving up the stink hole’. What women will think about is what might have been if they had married someone else. If they had held out for a better offer. They’ll see that as the main sacrifice they see. Some of them will also feel like they sacrificed their career, but this is almost always more of a cry for attention than any actual sacrifice. First off, men don’t ever ask women to be stay at home mother’s for the good of the family. They always choose to do this themselves. This is what my ex did, never what I wanted, so in no way did she sacrifice for me or the family. Besides that, many careers that women have can be easily re-entered after being out for a few years, with no drop in pay. And she now has CS payments to supplement her income.

I know women will claim they made sacrifices and changed their lives for men in social ways, and there is some truth to that, but again, they are the ones driving these changes, not the men they married. Any man who asks his wife to change for him or the family will surely hear her wraith. But a wife will shame her husband into proper behavior without a second thought.

Ok. Then do it.

[narwhalParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

That is why I periodically make a point of endorsing the gf’s plan to move into a house near my neighborhood in the future.

While better than cohabitation, there is still a danger to this. She will see your endorsement as an act of commitment, a step forward. She is moving closer to you, an act of commitment and sacrifice on her part. She’ll in turn claim that you need to give her the same level of sacrifice in the near future. If you end it worth her, she will claim that you lead her own by asking her to move closer. And she will claim you need to compensate her for that in some way.

No matter what happens, she’s going to spin this in her favor.

Ok. Then do it.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

First off, men don’t ever ask women to be stay at home mother’s for the good of the family. They always choose to do this themselves. This is what my ex did, never what I wanted, so in no way did she sacrifice for me or the family.

My ex was adamant when we got married that she would never give up her career to be a stay-at-home mom. She was a recruiter and had seen first hand trying to get someone back into the work force after a 6-8 year absence and watching them go back at half the pay they had when they left. That was NEVER going to be her!!!

That was the woman I married. That was not the same woman I had children with. Once the first one was on the way, she did a 180. She THOUGHT it would be easier to stay at home and she’d have a nice little vacation. Now, if a woman is wired for it, that’s probably true. My ex wasn’t. So it was very tough for her to stay at home. Naturally, that was my fault. And she let me know that almost daily. OUR decision for her to stay at home.

Funny how all the good decisions were HER decisions and all the bad ones were OUR decisions.

And women wonder where all the good men are….

Order the good wine

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

narwhal wrote:

Ranger One wrote:

That is why I periodically make a point of endorsing the gf’s plan to move into a house near my neighborhood in the future.

While better than cohabitation, there is still a danger to this. She will see your endorsement as an act of commitment, a step forward. She is moving closer to you, an act of commitment and sacrifice on her part. She’ll in turn claim that you need to give her the same level of sacrifice in the near future. If you end it worth her, she will claim that you lead her own by asking her to move closer. And she will claim you need to compensate her for that in some way.
No matter what happens, she’s going to spin this in her favor.

And I will point out that I didn’t ask her to move closer, I didn’t ask her to make any sacrifices, and I don’t think that a small sacrifice on her part justifies a larger sacrifice on my part — the latter point I would also point out makes the relationship look like a long con — a confidence game.

In fact, I think I will print out your point about “sacrifices” and mine onto a dated sheet of paper, and sign it.

Then if she brings that s~~~ up in the future, I will go into my filing cabinet, pull out the signed sheet, and say “THIS is what I predicted X years ago was a long con” and is WHY I won’t make a sacrifice for someone treating me like a stock investment. (i.e. put $1 in and expect $10 out)

Then I will say that if she hadn’t tried to guilt trip me and manipulate me, I might have considered letting her move in (a white lie) — but now that she HAS, I cannot trust her, and I can’t be in a relationship with someone I can’t trust. You can’t trust someone who tries to emotionally manipulate me.
(I’ll probably leave out the fact that I really don’t have emotions anymore and never loved her)

I’ve changed… I was mildly Aspergerish and then decided to dedicate myself to compensating for it by studying what I consider to be the polar-opposite of High-Functioning-Autistics — sociopaths. So while I’m not truly sociopathic (I even did the test to see if I turned sociopathic, if that is even possible), I have sought to emulate many aspects of sociopaths. I’m a bit different than a sociopath — sociopaths actually have emotions, and they are impulsive.

What I have in common is that I no longer give a f~~~ about other people’s feelings. I am the opposite of impulsive — nothing happens without a detailed and flexible plan with multiple contingencies. And pretty close to nothing generates emotion in me anymore. I can watch videos of people being burned alive or tortured or delimbed and I feel nothing. I used to have empathy, but now I consider most people to be nothing more than sacks of meat. I listen to music and feel nothing — at best it may calm or make me further relaxed (as if I need it). I could flip the switch for a nuclear weapon and vaporize 10 million people and I would feel nothing.

I only have a gf because, for now, the benefits outweight the costs. I have the spreadsheets to verify this. As soon as the math changes, I will push the eject button.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

TaxGuy wrote:

Funny how all the good decisions were HER decisions and all the bad ones were OUR decisions.
And women wonder where all the good men are….

The best men won’t put up with a woman’s bulls~~~.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Sky-OParticipant 18949]

Ranger One

Correct the best men won’t put up with a woman’s bulls~~~.

Because the best men are the most intelligent men.

All red pill insight and wisdom spawns from intelligence.

Look around. It is undeniable: Blue pill chumps are actually cognitively defective. Sure, some might have good jobs and / or money. Put the are dumb, even bordering on pathologically delusional.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3787]

Sky-O wrote:

Ranger One
Correct the best men won’t put up with a woman’s bulls~~~.
Because the best men are the most intelligent men.
All red pill insight and wisdom spawns from intelligence.
Look around. It is undeniable: Blue pill chumps are actually cognitively defective. Sure, some might have good jobs and / or money. Put the are dumb, even bordering on pathologically delusional.

Exactly. Yet they are the ones telling us we have problems. Hilarious. Or pathetic. Take your pick.

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