The pleasure of messing with entitled girls

[cardenio27Participant 144]

I agree economist is it mostly ego, I like power and control. But a man who masters himself is best of all.

[RhettParticipant 637]

I agree puff, sumthin fishy here….

Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed. Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.......But the best representative of MGTOW is…………… an empty chair,.

[DwightDavidParticipant 859]

cardenio27 wrote:

I don’t understand what you mean care to explain?

If this is for me, I’ll try. If anyone knows what I mean and can explain it better, by all means,please do.
Women expect attention. They feel the world revolves around them, and that any man would be honored to be acknowledged by them. When you ignore them, when you don’t allow them into your world, you deny them what they feel is “their due.” Especially the attractive ones, since they almost always have no personality to begin with. All they have is their looks. When you don’t acknowledge them, it hurts their self esteem a little. The more times this happens, the farther her self esteem falls.
And to me, that is the best payoff with the least amount of effort. Hope this helps.

[RhettParticipant 637]

DwightDavid wrote:

cardenio27 wrote:

I don’t understand what you mean care to explain?

If this is for me, I’ll try. If anyone knows what I mean and can explain it better, by all means,please do.
Women expect attention. They feel the world revolves around them, and that any man would be honored to be acknowledged by them. When you ignore them, when you don’t allow them into your world, you deny them what they feel is “their due.” Especially the attractive ones, since they almost always have no personality to begin with. All they have is their looks. When you don’t acknowledge them, it hurts their self esteem a little. The more times this happens, the farther her self esteem falls.
And to me, that is the best payoff with the least amount of effort. Hope this helps.

Great post, I used to love ignoring women.. USED TO now it’s second nature. I don’t even see them most times and could care less if any of them sees me. I save my energy for more constructive things like fishing.

Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed. Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.......But the best representative of MGTOW is…………… an empty chair,.

[RhettParticipant 637]

cardenio27 wrote:

I agree economist is it mostly ego, I like power and control. But a man who masters himself is best of all.

Do you have a hunting or fishing license?

Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed. Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.......But the best representative of MGTOW is…………… an empty chair,.

[Anonymous 1]

Women messed with my feelings and with my head in my bluepilled years, I am not giving back the same s~~~, I enjoy to have fun and make jokes, sometimes I may sound like an asshole, but that is because mr. nice guy is gone.

I see no gain in messing with women, they are already a mess by themselves.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I agree with the notion that claiming to be disinterested in women yet f~~~ing with them in a public setting are incompatible.

The full extent of your communication with any female working at a coffee shop should be “Drip coffee, please.” and “Thank you.” Anything more than this suggests attachment.

Talking to other men about how you’re getting a girl to work for your attention by ignoring her while talking to another girl REALLY suggests attachment.

Just saying.

[cardenio27Participant 144]

I don’t understand what you mean Rhett. I’m acknowledging valid points I don’t have a hidden agenda. I’m not trying to measure how good or bad a mgtow I am or anything like that. I happen to engage with women in situations like that from time to time, believe it or not I spend most of my time ignoring them. I’m not perfect, I don’t like cutting myself off from them 100 per cent but I don’t date or f~~~ them. Why do I sense hostility?

[cardenio27Participant 144]

Yes there is attachment and I’ve already said I do still feel desire but I channel it into my games with the women. I’m not a robot, I don’t date or f~~~ them. I was just looking for some feedback, I respect the opinions of this community. I spend very little time talking to women on a weekly basis, sometimes no time at all apart from family.

[RoyDalParticipant]

It is wrong to torment the mentally ill — this maxim applies to all women.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[RhettParticipant 637]

cardenio27 wrote:

I don’t understand what you mean Rhett. I’m acknowledging valid points I don’t have a hidden agenda. I’m not trying to measure how good or bad a mgtow I am or anything like that. I happen to engage with women in situations like that from time to time, believe it or not I spend most of my time ignoring them. I’m not perfect, I don’t like cutting myself off from them 100 per cent but I don’t date or f~~~ them. Why do I sense hostility?

No hostility here my brother… I’m just pointing out the things us men do. You should think about getting out of touch with your feminine side.

Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed. Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.......But the best representative of MGTOW is…………… an empty chair,.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

cardenio27 wrote:

But you’re right it is a waste of time.

Too much effort/caring here, but I often see a real need to f~~~ with them too because if you don’t women can be very annoying. At little “game” is essential sometimes — but for a different reason than the PUAs.

Not to amuse her…. but to amuse yourSELF.

EXAMPLE:

“Why are you not married?”

I’m not going to give her the MGTOW response because that’s reserved for when she starts shaming and being a c~~~ about it. So in this case, I might say

“Is that a proposal? Where’s the ring! Since I just met you it had better be NICE. Minimum 5 carats and UP! Don’t forget to kneel when you bring it to me, too.”

This will crack myself up – and her too – but it also gets under her skin just enough to irritate her and now she needs to adjust her strategy or she’s toast. This keeps it light and fun because the poor girl has no idea who she’s up against.

F~~~ing with entitled chicks is often essential because they are TRULY like cats will go anywhere and need to be brought down. If she initiates an altercation, it’s open season.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

The furthest I will go to mess with women is to deliberately not look at them.

Despite what women may say about the “male gaze”, I believe they measure their self worth by how attractive they are and use that attraction to turn heads and garner attention in order to support that sense of self worth.

Deliberately denying a woman attention of any sort, particularly one who is obviously trying very hard to get it, is my small way of letting them know that the spell is wearing off and that, more and more, they will experience what it is like to be treated as a man… valued only for what they can do, not for what they can appear to be.

Women thrive on attention. Even negging them and baiting them to vie for validation feeds their narcissism. Being ignored, on the other hand, even by an average man like myself, frightens and infuriates women by challenging their privilege and breaking down their sense of intrinsic value. I imagine they must feel like a child does the first time crying fails to get them their way and I admit to deriving some small amount of pleasure from being able to shake a woman’s fundamental understanding of herself and the world… by simply doing nothing.

It’s not exactly nothing, to be honest. I realize that this, too, requires a specific effort, but it is the very least possible effort I can make until such time as I get to the point where I no longer notice whether I look at them or not nor care how they feel about themselves.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

GreekDragoon wrote:

This sounds more like an unholy mix of MRA/PUA tactic than MGTOW.

cardenio27 wrote:

What theme Jackinov? I’m curious.

I just seem to be noticing a lot of people doing the MRA/PUA sort of banter, where they go, “So I TOTALLY ignored this one chick my dude- she TOTALLY wanted to talk to me so bad but I just ignored her hahaha but I definitely don’t care about their attention bro yeah and then this second chick was REALLY into me and then this third chick and this fourth chick- but it didn’t matter because I totally didn’t care hahahaha”.

That thought came up because they weren’t saying anything to you, yet you seemed to fixate on how much they were speaking to you- like you didn’t actually want them to NOT talk to you. Which was quite clear actually.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[KeymasterKeymaster]

THAT ^^ Terrific comment from Doc.

Stargazer wrote:

Despite what women may say about the “male gaze”, I believe they measure their self worth by how attractive they are and use that attraction to turn heads and garner attention in order to support that sense of self worth.

There’s a scene at the start of Twilight which I lost a lot of man points watching , but I assure you It was purely out of research , and it just happened to be on.

When Bella meets Edward….. he actually looks at her like she stinks. Like she’s gross.

If he SMILED he would be considered “creepy”. Thats’ where this mentally sick female attitude comes from. SMILING is “creepy”, but Bella became instantly intrigued and chased after him because he looked at her like she made him wanna puke.

A dead vampire f~~ sneaks into her house to watch her sleep and women everywhere find this “sexy” and omg so hott. Not “creepy” all. But if you smile at her across coffee shop, you’re a f~~~ing creepy. And if an anonymous admirer sends her flowers, he’s a “stalker”.

Understanding this is when I stopped looking at women and validating their existence ( or attractiveness ) . Also after that, I never complimented a woman on her looks ever again.

…. but 3 days ago a woman in a work meeting said “that’s a nice color on you”.
(I wore a blue shirt).

I looked at her like Edward looked at Bella.
Like that comment put a bad taste in my mouth.

I sure as s~~~ didn’t smile and say thanks because if you reverse the sexes, she would call it “sexual harassment”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Jackinov wrote:

I just seem to be noticing a lot of people doing the MRA/PUA sort of banter, where they go, “So I TOTALLY ignored this one chick my dude- she TOTALLY wanted to talk to me so bad but I just ignored her hahaha but I definitely don’t care about their attention bro yeah and then this second chick was REALLY into me and then this third chick and this fourth chick- but it didn’t matter because I totally didn’t care hahahaha”.

When I’m driving down the street, I don’t CHOOSE to look at women or do a double take. In fact, very few women actually make me want to. It’s a natural reflex to look – twice – and we don’t control this.

As men, we will actually turn our heads while driving – risking an accident – JUST to get a second look at a super fine rack. We actually need to condition ourselves NOT to do this.

She is also deliberately wanting to be noticed and that tight white top was screaming “look at my nipples!!”. She probably also paid $3000 per tit.

So there is a VERY concerted effort required to not give women the attention and validation they seek. I understand why a (younger) guy would *make a point of not looking* – while saying “I ignored her ha ha”.

And also remember – women train themselves too.
They DELIBERATELY TRY To not let on like they like a guy.

In North America (especially) the female attitude on all of this is so toxic it’s unbelievable. It’s not the same in other parts of the world. Walking around for an hour in Rio … women will eye f~~~ the s~~~ out of you. Here, women will work their asses off to try and pretend they don’t want attention.

They are gargantuan hypocrites.

A little world travel goes a long way too. Come back to North American female attitudes after 3 months, and you’ll never give a s~~~ about paying attention to women here again.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

RoyDal wrote:

It is wrong to torment the mentally ill — this maxim applies to all women.

Agreed, women are like children and we don’t abuse children, especially modern day spoiled women (narcissistic children) given they have the loaded gun of gynocentric laws favoring women over men, best to ignore them and let them happen on somebody else! Every woman is a potential landmine and at the least a grenade in your lap missing the pin!

Stargazer wrote:

Deliberately denying a woman attention of any sort, particularly one who is obviously trying very hard to get it, is my small way of letting them know that the spell is wearing off and that, more and more, they will experience what it is like to be treated as a man… valued only for what they can do, not for what they can appear to be.

I hear you Doc! I did that just the other day at a gas station being the only one there and she was dressed to tight and skimpy for anything I would accept if there was any such thing as “your woman” skin tight outfits are the norm now, when I was kid they didn’t even exist. They could walk around naked and I’m (thanks to reality) still not interested, I thank women for my resistance to women and nothing else!

Nothing good ever became of a woman in my life! Every one of them was a drain in one sort or another, NOTHING YOU WOULD WANT TO SPEND YOUR LIFE WITH! Modern women serve themselves at the expense of men, they contribute nothing to the man, just a drain on him and nothing else!

MGTOW is Roto-Rooter for MEN!

Keymaster wrote:

In North America (especially) the female attitude on all of this is so toxic it’s unbelievable. It’s not the same in other parts of the world. Walking around for an hour in Rio … women will eye f~~~ the s~~~ out of you. Here, women will work their asses off to try and pretend they don’t want attention.

They are gargantuan hypocrites.

A little world travel goes a long way too. Come back to North American female attitudes after 3 months, and you’ll never give a s~~~ about paying attention to women here again.

Well said KM and every word of it is true! When I came back to the US the landwhales made me want to puke, and the toxic attitudes turned me completely OFF!

Imagine that, friendly women do exist, just not HERE! Because here they’re shot b~~~~!

[Anonymous 24]

I get what the OP is trying to say here, and I do the same thing, to an extent. Also, I am no monk, but daaaaaaaaamn close.

Example-
I was in a bar a few weeks ago talking to my buddies, the bartender is a chick we all know as she serves us often. She is not very attractive and on occasion chats with us a bit. Well, enter hot, young, entitled girl who comes in solo and tries hard to become the center of attention amongst us guys, centering on me. She is clearly used to having the whole bar compete for her. I want nothing to do with this chick… So, I barely look at her nor talk to her. I instead chat up the bartender and change the topic of conversation that she was clearly trying to steer the three guys towards, and that topic was, unsurprisingly, HER. She was clearly upset with me and got the point. It is really simple, just change the topic to anything worthwhile that needs some thought, this sends most bitches running for the hills.

[OldBillParticipant]

cardenio27 wrote:

But a man who masters himself is best of all.

A man who has mastered himself wouldn’t be walking around f~~~ing with people for kicks. A man truly going his own way would no longer care enough to do that.

There’s a great difference between being a MGHOW and being just another annoying douche insulting people in order to mask their own hurt feelings. Some day you may understand that difference. Some day you may understand that MGTOW is not misogyny.

Doc’s examples should be your guide here. He simply denies women the attention they crave and, unlike you, he does not actively inform women they are unworthy of his attention. Doc lets his actions speak for him and, unlike you, doesn’t feel the need to explain himself.

Move beyond this childish need for power and control. Move beyond this need to lash out at other people. You still are burdened with those needs because you still care.

Remember, “If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.”

Live a life that others covet and that will be all the “revenge” you’ll need.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 22]

I agree that refusing to give women attention when they’re desperately trying to get it, feels good.

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