The Notion That MGTOW is Selfish

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

Even altruistic actions are based on self-interest. For example people say volunteer work is ‘rewarding’ all the time. That’s being selfish because charity is about helping others, not giving yourself a high, but it’s inevitable to feel that way.

If giving to charity made you feel resentful or made you feel like a ‘loser’ people wouldn’t do it.

The first rule of economics is that people respond to incentives. Therefore It’s a great thing that people feel good about helping others, because it is an incentive to help.

Often it’s the people who are telling you that you are selfish are being hypocrites because they are stakeholders or jealous because you’re not doing what they want, which is of itself, selfish to assume that everyone should be the same as them.

Eg. The poor person mentality. The idea that all rich people are crooks because they have stuff that poor people don’t have must mean they’ve ripped everyone off. When most of the time they’ve worked both hard and smart and have capitalized on their creativity. Then you look at the people complaining and realizing they aren’t taking any responsibility for their success and just want to take.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

I’m a strong independent man who need a woman like a fish need a bicycle 😀
What’s the matter?

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[BrujahParticipant 579]

We work to contribute to the economy. Your taxes fund the upkeep of the country and any donations you make goes to a greater good. Not choosing to get hitched and knock some broad up who will later leech on benefits seems like the most benevolent thing any MGTOW can do.

I find it ironic when they wax poetically about love and emotions and all those feel-good phrases, but when it comes down to the gritty details, it’s suddenly a social obligation? Make up your minds cucks.

[Anonymous 17]

Everyone has the right to do with their lives what they want. Nobody is obliged to sacrifice their lives for someone else. You can only be selfish if you are on a relationship and MGTOWs are not in a relationship.

[experiencedParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

So let me get this straight, laydeez.
You want me to pay for your drinks.
You want me to ask you out and pay for your dinner.
You want me to pay for your movie tickets.
You want me to save up three months wages and blow it all on some overpriced shiny rock you can show off to your friends.
You want me to pay thousands of dollars on some meaningless ceremony and party for your friends and family?
You want me to support your children that you had by many other men while having none of my own?
You want me to slave away at some soul crushing job for forty hours a week or more so you can stay at home and play housewife?
You want me to bury myself in debt to buy you an oversized house for you and your children by other men to live in and an overpriced car for you to haul them around in?
You want me to give up that house and car and my savings and retirement to you when you get bored and divorce me?
You want me to pay you child support for the next couple of decades for your children by other men and alimony to you for the rest of my life?
You expect me to be grateful to you for the “opportunity” to get screwed over like this by you?
And you have the churlish impertinence to call ME selfish?

As if.

Go f~~~ yourselves, laydeez, because men are done with that s~~~.

Sidecar makes perfect sense and THE LAYDEEZ fully know it.
So, how do they defend against reality? – by altering perception, by brainwashing males from the earliest age, that being against ‘their’ setup is selfish.
They don’t want guys’ brains to EVER get to the, “but all that laydeez do is take, take, take” stage.
Once you see that, you are home free, as opposed to ‘freed of your home’ via no fault divorce.
The guilt trip brainwashing is based on PRE NO FAULT DIVORCE!
The puppet masters arranged for it,
BUT the laydeez always pull, no yank! the cord on that guillotine. Put your head under the blade??for what??they bring nothingto the table any longer, just ask Charlie Sheen, no I’m sorry, he’s dying of AIDS – that’s what they brought to his table.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Zoom66Participant 57]

What’s selfish is knowing what can lead to the financial and physical suicide of your fellow man, and choosing not to educate them on the poison out there. I’d say men have been selfish by learning for years these lessons the hard way, and continuing to perpetuate the myths that lead to that poison. Male feminists are selfish, and gender traitors. I have less respect for them then the dog s~~~ I stepped in yesterday.

And let’s not even get into the child’s lives that are being saved by NOT settling on impregnating women that are not fit for motherhood.

In order to be selfish, you must be taking something away from someone. What are we doing than taking away our attention. Remember, it’s women that says “nobody wants us anyway”. So what exactly are we taking?

[aeragoanParticipant 1186]

Selfish???..Naaa…. I would rather call at self-preservation.Sometimes You Have to Take a Step Back and Realize What is Important in Your Life

[CodeBleuParticipant 161]

Anonymous wrote:

you can’t accuse the men of putting their interests above others in such a decision because the interests of a wife/child are non-existent in the first place.

So what if it’s selfish? Last time I checked it’s not illegal (yet) to keep my resources to myself. The decision to go my own way doesn’t hurt anyone directly or indirectly. My money and my time is mine to do with as I see fit. Someone doesn’t like it? Tough s~~~. I’m denying resources to someone who doesn’t exist in my life? That kind of logic is baffling to me.

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