The MGTOW.com Sandman Jet Fighter Welcome Video has been stricken

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Excellent vid Madman. Thanks for bringing it. I happened to see it last night for the first time. Most interesting (and had me laughing) was the claim that the video came as a “donation from Zen”. Yet for one of Sandmans most relevant and recognized videos, there was no “zen” to be found anywhere in his comment stream.

“Hi everyone. This video is not really brought to you by a donation from anyone. I’m just telling you that hoping you will give me money”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FangParticipant 102]

@Tower: I’m glad to see that you’ve had better luck than I’ve had. When you’re a soldier you have to close with and engage the enemy and sometimes people get shot. If you’re a policeman you have to close with suspects to investigate or effect an arrest and sometimes people get shot. For anyone else, get the Hell out of there! If you go toe-to-toe in a gunfight or knife fight when you could have escaped you’re not a hero, you’re a f~~~ing moron. I know, I know…sometimes the tactical situation leaves you no alternative but to fight. Yeah, I got it…I’m not talking about those scenarios. I’m talking about the statistically probable event where there are multiple opportunities to haul ass. THERE’S  NOTHING COWARDLY ABOUT NOT GETTING SHOT OR STABBED OR BEAT TO DEATH!

I could go on a 5000 word rant on this subject and still not say it all. I suppose I have a different perspective on things such as this. I’ve been in an emergency room laying on a cot with blood and cerebrospinal fluid spraying out of the hole in my head as a drunk priest administered the last rights to me.

I didn’t like it.

[BryantParticipant 229]

what does it mean he supports mgtow but also defends the plantation? may be a stupid question but i truthfully do not know what it means

"He who lives with honor dies with honor."

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Bryant wrote:

what does it mean he supports mgtow but also defends the plantation? may be a stupid question but i truthfully do not know what it means

“The Plantation” is a commonly held MGTOW / Manospherian metaphor for men going back to traditional relationships and marriages – i.e. assuming a lifetime of slavery to support a woman and her spawn into old age – even at great stress and health risks to himself – or an early grave. It is the “danger zone” for MGTOW to think women who don’t hold to feminism (or the current social order) are in any way pro-male or for the male best interest when they say “I hate feminism! I want a family”. We know what that means. It means she is trying to seduce some sucker “back to the plantation” so that she can live a protected life rent free – consisting of turning dials on washing machines and running around in the sunshine with a couple of toddlers – while he faces the back of a cubicle for 4 decades digging himself out of a mountain of debt and funding that s~~~.

Her contribution is of course giving him occasional access to her vagina and learning to cook a roast on holidays.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

Holy f~~~in s~~~, I’ve been gone too damn long(work, work, and oh yeah more bulls~~~ work).

*takes a sip of my miller beer*

 

By the way, Keymaster, that’s a true statement about the ” A wiser man learns from others mistakes”, my older brother told me that when i was a kid and never forgot it, and how true that quote is. Another sad thing is when Sandman didn’t even recognize MGTOW.com or give any recognition whatsoever. That’s f~~~ing bulls~~~, especially when this is the best website out there when it comes to MGTOW (not to sound like a kiss ass).

 

Sandman always dropped some pretty knowledgeable quotes here and there, but to be totally honest, I never really liked the guy’s “know-it-all” type advice and attitude, it was a huge turn off. It’s like He was almost semi-high on himself – especially when he spoke about marriage and kids.  The British dude that replied that video was spot on in my opinion. Sandman might know about rejection and hurt, however i highly doubt He really knows the true meaning of pain, hurt, sorrow, physical and mental abuse.

 

 

In the end, it’s pretty surprising, just was Aaron Clary’s vicious swipe at MGTOW’s as well.

 

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[KeymasterKeymaster]

DeusEx my old friend. Terrific of you to visit. Was wondering where you been but I’m delighted you’re off going your own way and still making time to drop in to say hello. We’re busy like f~~~ remodeling now that the foundation is poured and we’re currently adding a few stories. Much underway so don’t be too much of a stranger. Will be taking some days off from my regular full-time gig for a couple of months to focus more on MGTOW.com and amp up around here.

Had a gOogle hangout a couple of weeks ago with other MGTOW which was fun. Our first because we just don’t have the time to get very social just yet. The Sandman subject came up and I just got tired of talking about him. But yes I mentioned to the others it was bizarre that he replied once – three times in the same morning – to a comment from us under some video, but as soon as “the dot com” opened it’s doors, he stuck his nose up at us. Really odd, I would say.

But we have to remember youtube is a resource. It’s not a website. It’s not a home. It’s a tool. A facility. He makes videos and sticks a MGTOW label on them. It’s not like we’re American Idol and he’s Michael Jackson or anything. So f~~~ it…. onto moving bigger mountains.

Thanks for connecting today….. and a special thanks for being one of the early regulars in the forum.
MGTOW.com has a piece of your soul in it. That’s more meaningful to MGTOW in the grand scheme of things.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Love the way you write, KeyMaster.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

High praise coming from you. Humbled.

And PS. also wondered how you’ve been lately.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Bah, I just keep talking until the point comes across. You drive it home with an efficiency and flair that I admire. Thanks for that.

So I’ve been a bit busy lately ridding myself of a particularly voracious succubus but I’m still down for the whole Law Vegas meetup thing. Where are we on that?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Perhaps Im speaking too quickly, I know it, but I should be getting a 4 day weekend this week. If it works out, I’ll be in touch with you ASAP. Will know for certain Wednesday.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Okay, I’ll be around.

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

Thank you as well my old friend Keymaster!, greatly appreciate the kind words. Yeah I left the “corporate, female infested office world” about two months ago – to go back to my old trade of carpentry and and flooring. Took awhile for me to get time for myself, now that work is at a steady pace i finally have time drop by and give my input while sippin a few beers, and maybe a few rants every once in awhile!, haha!.

 

That’s f~~~ing badass you guys had a google met up!. Keep me posted when you Gents will be doing that, I’d like to join in.

 

Yeah the whole Sandman thing is a trip, crazy how  very few live what they preach. The site looks like a Million bucks Keymaster!, really first class!. And dammit that’s the way it should be!, class…all the way!. I’ll be dropping by more and I got more stories to share as weeks, months go buy.

 

In the mean time hope everyone has a kick ass weekend!.

 

-Deus Ex Machina

 

 

 

 

 

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[AkibarangerParticipant 37]

I’d compare him to Cypher from the Matrix, but I think it’s more like Lancelot being distracted by Gwen and betraying Arthur.

Pussy just shackles some people.

I wish him the best and hope he comes around eventually.

[vincentosaurusParticipant 147]

Even a monkey can figure out “Every time I do this is hurts me” and stop doing it. That isn’t cowardice that’s a basic level of intelligence. It’s not bravery to keep doing the thing it’s idiocy. Only a complete f~~~ing moron sticks his hand right back on the hot element after he’s already been burned by it and like you said it doesn’t take a genius to watch someone else get burned and figure out that you shouldn’t touch it either.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Mitzreal wrote:

Wow, I can’t believe what I just listened to… How can he claim to be a MGTOW and defend the plantation? How can he call this most sacred of men’s spaces where we can talk of our hurts, our fears and our pains without ridicule the domain of cowards? How can he say that it is cowardly to seek to prevent the destruction or enslavement of your life to someone who doesn’t give a f~~~ about equal exchange? Sandman you sir are a disappointment, if MGTOW were the military we would drum you out with a dishonorable discharge.

He wants to go his own way, and his way apparently has a plantation on it.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[BDParticipant 1146]

Wow, I am quite new to Mgtow but somehow I missed this. Sandman transformed into a mangina, almost like he was a puppet with some vagina telling him what to say….. Hmmm, and I just kinda stood up for him this morning, my bad and my apologies. I didn’t realize that he had gone this way…..

Did he ever apologize for this?

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[ComingInHotParticipant 160]

BD wrote:

Wow, I am quite new to Mgtow but somehow I missed this. Sandman transformed into a mangina, almost like he was a puppet with some vagina telling him what to say….. Hmmm, and I just kinda stood up for him this morning, my bad and my apologies. I didn’t realize that he had gone this way….. Did he ever apologize for this?

 

I dont think he all of a sudden transformed into a mangina, he was always a mangina.

Power and pussy are the same sir, Once someone gets a little of either, it just exposes what was hiding down beneath and then everyone sees who they truly are.

Power and pussy corrupt and have killed more men then anything else I am aware of since the beginning of time, excluding asteriods that bring about global winters after they strike.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

There is one distinctive feature of true MGTOW men that even otherwise “red-pill” men (or those who pretend to be) don’t have: integrity and unshakable consistency. You can absolutely count on continuity. There is no more bulls~~~. It’s gone. MGTOW don’t even tolerate it within themselves.

From what I have observed , a MGOW does not have one set of values and then flip to different set of rules. To him, it’s not even possible. He would find this embarrassing and offensive about himself. It would p~~~ HIMSELF off.

When you are able to hold a microphone up to your mouth and broadcast as an authority on anything, you are opening yourself up to even the slightest amount of criticism. You must be prepared for it. But more importantly, if you’re going to “speak to MGTOW” you should be EMBARRASSED to do what Sandman did. Sandman actually continued on as if he didn’t f~~~ up royally. His next video should have started off with “Sorry everyone, Sandman here. Todays’ video is brought to a donation from nobody, and here is what I have to say……“

That would have been classy, respectful and even funny.

Integrity is the opposite of hypocrisy – which is what society is swimming in right now. Those who hold integrity as a virtue expect hypocrites to account for their discrepancies or alter their beliefs. This is why he got hammered for it. A MGHOW perspective will always continue to evolve and be refined, but it never goes back on itself so easily. It was THE LAST thing he should have ever said to his audience. THE LAST.

This kind of “oh well I don’t care” is the kind of solipsism you can expect from a chick. A woman will set fire to her boyfriends stuff , look at the camera and say “Ya-huh! I did that s~~~!”… upload it to youtube… and then continue going about her life as if she did nothing wrong. That’s Sandman for you.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ComingInHotParticipant 160]

Keymaster wrote:

There is one distinctive feature of true MGTOW men that even otherwise “red-pill” men (or those who pretend to be) don’t have: integrity and unshakable consistency. You can absolutely count on continuity. There is no more bulls~~~. It’s gone. MGTOW don’t even tolerate it within themselves. From what I have observed , a MGOW does not have one set of values and then flip to different set of rules. To him, it’s not even possible. He would find this embarrassing and offensive about himself. It would p~~~ HIMSELF off. When you are able to hold a microphone up to your mouth and broadcast as an authority on anything, you are opening yourself up to even the slightest amount of criticism. You must be prepared for it. But more importantly, if you’re going to “speak to MGTOW” you should be EMBARRASSED to do what Sandman did. Sandman actually continued on as if he didn’t f~~~ up royally. His next video should have started off with “Sorry everyone, Sandman here. Todays’ video is brought to a donation from nobody, and here is what I have to say……“ That would have been classy, respectful and even funny. Integrity is the opposite of hypocrisy – which is what society is swimming in right now. Those who hold integrity as a virtue expect hypocrites to account for their discrepancies or alter their beliefs. This is why he got hammered for it. A MGHOW perspective will always continue to evolve and be refined, but it never goes back on itself so easily. It was THE LAST thing he should have ever said to his audience. THE LAST. This kind of “oh well I don’t care” is the kind of solipsism you can expect from a chick. A woman will set fire to her boyfriends stuff , look at the camera and say “Ya-huh! I did that s~~~!”… upload it to youtube… and then continue going about her life as if she did nothing wrong. That’s Sandman for you.

 

+1 For the KeyMaster,

wise words sir, wise words indeed.

[BDParticipant 1146]

Keymaster wrote:

There is one distinctive feature of true MGTOW men that even otherwise “red-pill” men (or those who pretend to be) don’t have: integrity and unshakable consistency. You can absolutely count on continuity. There is no more bulls~~~. It’s gone. MGTOW don’t even tolerate it within themselves.

Well said KeyMaster.

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

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