The meaning of life and laziness

[BuckFitchesParticipant 993]

I think the meaning of life is to find happiness and add something useful to humanity. But a lot of times I end up being a lazy piece of s~~~ who feels guilty for sitting around. I feel like if I push myself I’ll do something great for the world, but often I don’t feel like pushing myself.

So what do all you MGTOW men do when you feel like a loser who won’t live up to much? What do you do riiiight as that laziness is kicking in when you don’t want it to?

Also what do you think the meaning of life is?
My uncle, who is one of the happiest people I’ve ever met, says the meaning of life is simply to live. I think it’s a bit deeper than that. I think it’s to be happy and contribute to humanity. What do you guys think?

Also if your religious, what’s the meaning of God’s life? I don’t believe in the traditional God, but I definitely believe SOMETHING is going on. So what’s even the point of that?

Sorry for the jumbled post and thanks for any replies. It’s late and I’m in deep thought about EVERYTHING!!!!!!!

"Fish can’t climb trees and women can’t be trusted." -Buck Fitches

[ghostParticipant]

I think the meaning of life is whatever you want to make it. It’s up to YOU to decide. I find myself having lazy moments too and that’s human nature. Once our basic needs are met, it’s easy to become lazy. You have to trick yourself and motivate yourself using different techniques. This goes back to what you want your life to be about.

Let’s start with what brought you here in the first place. Prior to MGTOW, you had a certain path you wanted to follow right? There must have been people in your life who let you down or thought you wouldn’t accomplish anything. Sure, you don’t have to care what other people think, but wouldn’t it be FUN to prove then wrong? Wouldn’t it FEEL GOOD to see people who gave up on you or thought you were an idiot, to feel like idiots because of your success?

That is what keeps pushing me when I have lazy moments. You have to be careful though because you want it to be balanced. You don’t want to stress yourself out. Push as hard as you NEED to in order to accomplish your short-term, medium-term and long-term goals.

BuckFitches wrote:

My uncle, who is one of the happiest people I’ve ever met, says the meaning of life is simply to live.

I’ve heard this from one of those spiritual dudes before. It sounds good sometimes but it’s not enough for me.

BuckFitches wrote:

I think it’s to be happy and contribute to humanity.

Continually improving your life is in a way doing that because you are participating in the economy and helping humanity in more ways than you think.

[Cú ChulainnParticipant 3910]

BuckFitches wrote:

So what do all you MGTOW men do when you feel like a loser who won’t live up to much?

What would I do? Well, I wouldn’t think I was a loser who won’t live up to much. That’s what I’d do.

[ghostParticipant]

Cú Chulainn wrote:

What would I do? Well, I wouldn’t think I was a loser who won’t live up to much. That’s what I’d do.

Great point Cu. I think having CONFIDENCE in yourself to accomplish ANYTHING you set your mind to is something that you MUST have. The way you build that confidence is by challenging yourself and meeting those challenges. That builds character and keeps building your confidence. You will have some setbacks though but that’s where those past successes come in and help you get over them.

[BuckFitchesParticipant 993]

ghost wrote:

wouldn’t it be FUN to prove then wrong? Wouldn’t it FEEL GOOD to see people who gave up on you or thought you were an idiot, to feel like idiots because of your success?

That is what keeps pushing me when I have lazy moments.

Sometimes this works for me, but not all the time. I guess there really is NO one-stop solution for laziness. I think you just have to battle it every day and be ready for any curve b~~~~ life throws your way

"Fish can’t climb trees and women can’t be trusted." -Buck Fitches

[ghostParticipant]

BuckFitches wrote:

Sometimes this works for me, but not all the time. I guess there really is NO one-stop solution for laziness. I think you just have to battle it every day and be ready for any curve b~~~~ life throws your way

I agree, it doesn’t work ALL the time. It doesn’t for ANYONE, not even for the women in your past. They are struggling just like YOU. You are right, there isn’t a one-stop solution. You have to battle each and every day and deal with the curve b~~~~ in STRIDE. Your character is built upon dealing with those curve b~~~~. Your ceiling gets higher each time you are thrown a curve ball and handle it accordingly.

[BuckFitchesParticipant 993]

Cú Chulainn wrote:

BuckFitches wrote:

So what do all you MGTOW men do when you feel like a loser who won’t live up to much?

What would I do? Well, I wouldn’t think I was a loser who won’t live up to much. That’s what I’d do.

Deep down, I feel like I’m going to accomplish a lot. I’ve always wanted to help a humanity and I WILL! But lately I feel like I might not be able to accomplish the things I want to because I won’t work hard enough. It’s like, no matter how hard I work, it isn’t enough.

I wish I could say I never feel like a loser, but sometimes I can’t help it.

"Fish can’t climb trees and women can’t be trusted." -Buck Fitches

[ghostParticipant]

BuckFitches wrote:

I wish I could say I never feel like a loser, but sometimes I can’t help it.

You have HIGH aspirations. There is NOTHING wrong with that. When you feel like a loser, look at the people who have not accomplished close to what you have SO FAR. That’s how you make yourself feel better in that moment so you maintain your CONFIDENCE and don’t let that low feeling slow you down.

Just do a quick comparison with some of the people you may have grown up with or went to school with. You will see how you are far ahead of most of them in so many ways. It could be health, wealth, family, relationships, knowledge or a combination of them.

[BuckFitchesParticipant 993]

ghost wrote:

BuckFitches wrote:

Sometimes this works for me, but not all the time. I guess there really is NO one-stop solution for laziness. I think you just have to battle it every day and be ready for any curve b~~~~ life throws your way

I agree, it doesn’t work ALL the time. It doesn’t for ANYONE, not even for the women in your past. They are struggling just like YOU. You are right, there isn’t a one-stop solution. You have to battle each and every day and deal with the curve b~~~~ in STRIDE. Your character is built upon dealing with those curve b~~~~. Your ceiling gets higher each time you are thrown a curve ball and handle it accordingly.

Thanks. Very true… I know I improve with every year that passes, but I get stressed that I’m not improving enough. Do you guys feel that way? If you do, how do you respond to it?

"Fish can’t climb trees and women can’t be trusted." -Buck Fitches

[BuckFitchesParticipant 993]

ghost wrote:

BuckFitches wrote:

I wish I could say I never feel like a loser, but sometimes I can’t help it.

You have HIGH aspirations. There is NOTHING wrong with that. When you feel like a loser, look at the people who have not accomplished close to what you have SO FAR. That’s how you make yourself feel better in that moment so you maintain your CONFIDENCE and don’t let that low feeling slow you down.

that’s a good point. Thanks man. Really just talking about all this s~~~ helps me, but reading your responses makes it even better so thanks

"Fish can’t climb trees and women can’t be trusted." -Buck Fitches

[ghostParticipant]

BuckFitches wrote:

I get stressed that I’m not improving enough. Do you guys feel that way? If you do, how do you respond to it?

Yes, I feel like I am not doing enough. I feel like that all the time. I then say to myself, well what can I do right now to change that? A lot of times it’s not much. You already know what your plans are and you keep working on them. You are where you are in life because of certain decisions you made. Go back and think about why you made those decisions. That will make you feel better about why you are where you are.

[ghostParticipant]

BuckFitches wrote:

Really just talking about all this s~~~ helps me, but reading your responses makes it even better so thanks

Anytime brother. It helps me as well. You are never alone in the way you feel. Thank you for having the courage to ask and have a discussion. Just think about that for a second. How many guys would actually do what you just did?

[BuckFitchesParticipant 993]

true true. I’ll let you know how that goes

"Fish can’t climb trees and women can’t be trusted." -Buck Fitches

[Cú ChulainnParticipant 3910]

You have the power within yourself not to feel like that at all. ‘Loser’ is just a jumble of letters from the alphabet that mean nothing ultimately.

Look around, how many people are worse off than you? Probably the majority of people on this earth.

If you make material achievements your sole aim, then you’ll be losing for the rest of your life.

How much is enough? Never is the answer. Women are the great materialists, ostentatious wealth is for them and male bimbos to chase.

You have to find what is enough, then accept it when you reach it. It takes a surprisingly little amount of money for the basics – three square, a roof over your head, and clothes to keep warm. That’s my take on it.

MGTOW for me is learning to let go of that which is not needed, not worrying about losing stuff.

How rich is Bill Gates going to be in 50 years?

[BuckFitchesParticipant 993]

Cú Chulainn wrote:

You have the power within yourself not to feel like that at all. ‘Loser’ is just a jumble of letters from the alphabet that mean nothing ultimately.

Look around, how many people are worse off than you? Probably the majority of people on this earth.

If you make material achievements your sole aim, then you’ll be losing for the rest of your life.

How much is enough? Never is the answer. Women are the great materialists, ostentatious wealth is for them and male bimbos to chase.

You have to find what is enough, then accept it when you reach it. It takes a surprisingly little amount of money for the basics – three square, a roof over your head, and clothes to keep warm. That’s my take on it.

MGTOW for me is learning to let go of that which is not needed, not worrying about losing stuff.

How rich is Bill Gates going to be in 50 years?

Thanks for the response. You’ve reminded me that I can be happy with the necessities and nothing more.

"Fish can’t climb trees and women can’t be trusted." -Buck Fitches

[TecumsehParticipant 98]

This is a favorite topic of mine. Not the meaning of life, but the self-improvement aspect.

I set annual goals and break those down into monthly and daily goals/to-dos. Once I do that there’s a balance between knowing how much to press myself – do I stay up late to finish this project and risk oversleeping tomorrow? Or do I punt on meeting the goal for another day? For me, it seems to be about balance and trying to just keep moving in THE RIGHT DIRECTION. Even if I don’t meet all my goals, at least I’ve done something…created something…whatever the case. I spent so long saying “someday”…

But it’s important to lose that all or none thinking that can paralyze a person (like perfectionism does) and just plan what you want in life, break it down into small steps, and get started.

If this sounds like I’m trying to give myself a pep talk, it’s because I am. Ha ha. Better get back to my work.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I go through spurts of activity over and above those activities that bring me happiness. Those come first. Then I do one of two things. I practice my music. I play flute, sax and guitar and work on my research which is going very slowly because I’m such a lazy ass.

But since I’ve procrastinated technology has made my sort of work much easier.

I noticed someone on here was into a Bayesian club. My research involves data analysis and decision support systems using Bayesian Networks.

I have been very bad lately and am having a great time with my hobbies (posting at MGTOW.com).

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Cú ChulainnParticipant 3910]

No worries buddy. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not immune from long dark nights of the soul too – fretting and worrying, we all do it. But I’m learning to accept the way things ARE, not how they OUGHT to be.

You seem like an honest intelligent guy, you’ll work it out how it should be for you. Thinking about that and not raging about the past is the hardest step to make. You’re mending already.

[BuckFitchesParticipant 993]

Cú Chulainn wrote:

Thinking about that and not raging about the past is the hardest step to make.

It is indeed. The past haunts me even though I know it doesn’t have to. I like the dude’s post about setting yearly, monthly, and daily goals I’m going to try that

"Fish can’t climb trees and women can’t be trusted." -Buck Fitches

[ghostParticipant]

Cú Chulainn wrote:

Thinking about that and not raging about the past is the hardest step to make.

You are full of wisdom, brother Cu.

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