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LunaticReason 4 years, 6 months ago.
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Just warning if anyone wants to skip this post, I am just making a personal rant to blow off steam but also hopefully see some support within the manosphere because I can’t seem to find it in the real world.
So here is the situation.
A few years ago I had been unfriended by some girl I knew whom I thought was a friend, actually she gave me the cold shoulder well before this. Yes I know big deal! Move on because girls aren’t worth crying over. However it bugged me because I could not think of anything that I did to warrant such mistreatment. In fact during my blue pill days I had helped this girl at the cost of my masculinity. I was upset by this and felt that I had least been old some explanation. I was left wondering had I wronged a friend, am I not allowed to rectify any ill feelings that one may have of me? I finally got a response that I apparently was getting on her nerves with my hellos. I simply messaged twice every three years with a 5 month bridge between months and all it would have required of her was a response telling me she didn’t want to chat.
Anyways this isn’t what is bugging me but rather when I shared it with friends.
I had one male friend show his loyalty by saying some offhanded mean things, and I liked that support and because I did so some of my other female “friends”. Chimed in to admonish my behavior telling me to take a higher ground. I spend so much time being the nice guy am I not allowed to be nasty once in awhile? Why in the hell are they defending someone they didn’t even know, instead of supporting me?
In retrospect I know exactly why I was ignored and unfriended and it had nothing to do with my hellos but rather my SML I had been the nice guy and in turn was nothing but the typical chump that gets walked over by broads like her and the irony is that she had just escaped from an abusive relationship with a guy that beat her. Someone like myself isn’t worth speaking to and someone like that was worth dating?
I f~~~ing hate bitches and I am trying so hard not to weigh my own value through them and yet it makes me feel so worthless inside.
By the sound of your rant you must be a younger dude. Your hormones are raging, son. You chemically need to be with a woman in some form or another. Relax. This too shall pass. Get a porno and jerk it a few times…a day. The only person you need to validate your worth is you.
Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.
F~~~ porno. F~~~ female friends. F~~~ society because they don’t care about you. If you’re legal age to drink have a few beers. If not go and workout out.
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
I’m 36 I have young heart and mentality but i’m aging to a point where I’ve only experienced rejection and it makes me sad being alone. I have a lot friends but I am beginning to wonder if those friendships are just tolerances until they find some excuse not to be or if my value to them diminishes. Unless I have any looks, money or status I have no value to anyone especially women. I’ve always felt underwhelming. I was the runt in my family and in life. Ultimately I wanna feel like people want me on their team and I thought my niceness gave me some value but it really doesn’t and I am nothing but flaws to be picked on and scrutinized. I feel at any moment people can turn on me.
I actually planned on working out today once I’m done work and the rest of the week although that makes me upset too because it reminds me of how I am changing my body for acceptance. Gonna take it easy though because i think i tweaked my knee on the leg extension bore to much weight down on my knee and now it feels weird and sore. Originally worked out to attract women, now I just do it so I can get to the point of desireableness so I can tell them to f~~~ off. If I had money I would do the same.
“I am trying so hard not to weigh my own value through them“
You will need to get this down and kill this f~~~ing urge man. Seriously. This is stuff you are socially conditioned to feel since you were very young. Getting acceptance from Mother, being good and popular in school, get a cute gf… etc etc bulls~~~. A woman will never give you self value. Only you can.
Also, don’t workout to look good for women. Do it for yourself, your health and wellbeing. The workout endorphins are great. Women WILL check you out more if you have a great body, but who cares? It’s not a reason to workout. Make sure you warm up before hitting those weights! 🙂
Cheers!
Gonna take it easy though because i think i tweaked my knee on the leg extension bore to much weight down on my knee and now it feels weird and sore.
That is smart. Never work out on top of an unhealed injury. I did in my misspent youth, and now I have to live with permanent damage. If it were not for chiropractors, I would be walking with a cane. In fact, I was for a long while. Do not repeat my mistake.
You will need to get this down and kill this f~~~ing urge man. Seriously. This is stuff you are socially conditioned to feel since you were very young.
I agree. Urges come and go. Live without letting them run your life for you. Get in charge and stay in charge.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
By the sound of your rant you must be a younger dude. Your hormones are raging, son. You chemically need to be with a woman in some form or another. Relax. This too shall pass. Get a porno and jerk it a few times…a day. The only person you need to validate your worth is you.
Yes go wack as many times as you need to to slay the beast, just don’t hurt yourself.
Oh, everyone has been in your situation – relax. You say it hurts beeing alone… well… it’s for your own good to be alone. Trust me!
Modern women are irresponsible and senseless – you know that from your personal experience. You can only answer the fire with fire – become emotion-free, dude! I thought it’s hard – but it’s not.
What I mean – now your emotionality plays bad tricks on you. You feel pain and guilt, hope… you search for approval – but it’s all in your mind, no one gives a f~~~. Just get angry and when you feel that anger has consumed you entirely – just turn it down. Say to yourself that you don’t give a f~~~… repeat it constantly. You’ll find how much better you’ll feel… and know that you’re not alone, there are people who understand you, focus on your friends, work and goals. Don’t care about women the way they do about you.
Be pragmatic – it’s much way smarter.
Anonymous18I am nothing but flaws to be picked on and scrutinized.
I read it in one of @brainpilot‘s posts. So I will reiterate and paraphrase because it applies to me. You grow up wanting female attention in high school and in college. If you don’t get that, you wonder something must be wrong with me. You need to work on something, to improve on something. You get that higher education, start business, get jacked after years of gym, among other things only to seek that attention or approval. And finally you get that approval. But the catch is … it has nothing to do with you. She will give you that illusion though. And once you trust her, she will take what she can and leave. Now you are left feeling not good enough once more.
Never improve for others approval. You are the highest level judge of your character, accomplishments, etc. Keep what you have. Approve of yourself.
Get control of your ‘SELF’. F~~~ anyone else …. including us.
Build your FRAME ….. NOW …. this very second.
Set your mind straight to this task. Rise yourself up straight and f~~~ing tall.
CAST ALL ASIDE.
You are a MAN are you not?
Build your mind, intelligence, strength. Walk with confidence and don’t allow bulls~~~. SPEAK YOUR MIND ….. ALWAYS.
Then …. and only then …. will you see others for who they truly are. You will realise ….. you want nothing to do with 90% of them.
GET THE F~~~ UP NOW.
This is nothing but love I give you. MAN MGTOW LOVE.
Reach out ☺
You would think that the rejection is what is angering but its waaaay more than that. First was the disrespect towards me by completely ignoring me, I a wasn’t a creep on the street harassing her I was a colleague that once helped her out in a time of need. I wasn’t asking for sex, I wasn’t asking for money what I wanted was recognition, a polite hello back instead she chose to treat me like some leper without cause or without explanation.
Secondly what p~~~es me off is my two “friends” coming to the defense of her and pretty much telling me to take the high road and what that translates to is act like a mangina and not speak up about it. I know they didn’t like me expressing my ire towards this other girl because deep down I am pretty sure they have been guilty of the same behavior and treatment of men. Acting like a mangina is exactly why this other girl chose to treat me the way she did because I gave her what she needed and decided to toss me aside. Being devalued like that p~~~es me off.
Girl’s like that seek the bad boy because they feel as though they can bring out the good qualities in them. The reverse is also true of us good guy except we are despised at the end because they see the flaws we have emerging. The thing is that all of us men share those positive and negative traits its only a matter of which presents itself first. I a don’t care about rejecting what wears me down is how women value men and our ability to be valued. Women are surrounded by praise especially from men. The three girls I’ve mentioned have modeled. As an average male I don’t get that praise. I don’t make that much money and If i did it would just be a resource that they would try to exploit from me, status also something they would exploit.
So there is that paradox of being valued for thing superficial is to not be value at all. Yet this is something we are told to strive for. It baffles me, it wears me down and makes me depressed.
I keep experiencing the negative aspects of girls lately. Recently through a friend going through a break up with some cray cray jealous chick who decided to fleece him and leave him on the brink of destitution. Just more reason to be Mgtow.
However as the saying goes
Damned with them and damned without them.
anyways I’ll be taking both advice from everyone and that is
I’ll be pumping Iron, figuratively and literally =p
Anonymous18Both of your last posts to me represent a phase. And its the realization that some sleeping giant within us is awakening. The bitterness isn’t toward women in general, it’s how wrong we were to have believed the lies of what constitutes a good man in female eyes and more importantly how much women value good virtues.
Damned with them and damned without them.
Damned with them and bliss without them. That’s how I feel most days. The well versed red pillers would say that’s them each and every day.
Both of your last posts to me represent a phase. And its the realization that some sleeping giant within us is awakening. The bitterness isn’t toward women in general, it’s how wrong we were to have believed the lies of what constitutes a good man in female eyes and more importantly how much women value good virtues.
I’ve always been aware but I’ve kinda ignored it because I was treating my female friends as nawalt but coming to the realization yes they are like that. Every positive thing about me feels like its being thrown in my face and I really don’t know if I have what it takes to be otherwise. I value myself but it feels like the outside world doesn’t. I also don’t wanna change who I am because I like me. I just wished the world particularly girls valued me the way I value me.
Lunatic, I know what you mean in some respects. I have done nice things for women at the expense of my own time. What I’ve found out now is that is a mistake. I’ll give you an example: I had a close friend (woman) who once I started helping her with her car would thank me but when I moved away I would only hear from her if there was a problem with her car. There wasn’t any, “Hey apprentice, how are you doing? Long time no speak!” It’s always, “Hey apprentice, my car’s steering is acting up, can you come and fix it?” Yeah, that was during high school when I had a lot of freetime, now I have work and have other obligations that you want me to drop to just come and fix your car? No thanks. She then sent me a message back basically stating she doesn’t appreciate someone who doesn’t help her out despite being helped (WAIT WHAT?! Bitch, when was the last time you helped me with anything?) and that she doesn’t consider me a friend anymore.
Anyways, that was during my blue pill days. Lesson learned? Never help a woman (unless you get some obvious or concrete benefit).
Reminds of when someone I knew told me how his female friend from out of town would just show up and expect him to pay for dinner after a few more times he started to realize this when he started to talk to other mutual male friends that experienced this and finally just came up with an excuse not too. Dinner? no sorry busy.
OP,
I cant rehash everything in this thread, but there a couple of points you made I wanted to follow up on. Forgive me if Im misreading, but here is my synopsis and I say this out of respect and empathy.
Loneliness: the single man feels this more than anyone. If you dont, I still do. I cant even get a “pep talk” from female family members, let alone any substantial support. No. Were EXPECTED to do everything ourselves. Pick up the tab. Work. Stand alone, with NOONE in your corner. If I so much as need a mere encouraging phone call, then there is something wrong with me.
I dont get encouragement from women, or even men. The ONLY woman that did that for me was my mother.
Even GUYS dont want to admit they are depressed to one another. If you feel alone, have no family then you are f~~~ed. I have no qualms or shame in admitting Ive been personally so low, so many times, I didnt think I could get back up. Its hard to pull yourself up by your proverbial boot straps when you cant even afford them.
Ive been on the right end of wealth and the wrong end. It teaches you a lesson. True friends are hard to come by. Being a single man isnt easy, especially if you have no family left.
No man is an island, but Ive been on an island many times. Its tough man. Its cool we have this internet forum to exchange ideas, but it doesnt replace real world, face to face communication. I wish we all had that. I wont lie: I NEED others in my life. There is only so much we can do alone.
Bottomline: know I for one feel with you. You are NOT alone.
Resident cynic.
OP, I cant rehash everything in this thread, but there a couple of points you made I wanted to follow up on. Forgive me if Im misreading, but here is my synopsis and I say this out of respect and empathy. Loneliness: the single man feels this more than anyone. If you dont, I still do. I cant even get a “pep talk” from female family members, let alone any substantial support. No. Were EXPECTED to do everything ourselves. Pick up the tab. Work. Stand alone, with NOONE in your corner. If I so much as need a mere encouraging phone call, then there is something wrong with me. I dont get encouragement from women, or even men. The ONLY woman that did that for me was my mother. Even GUYS dont want to admit they are depressed to one another. If you feel alone, have no family then you are f~~~ed. I have no qualms or shame in admitting Ive been personally so low, so many times, I didnt think I could get back up. Its hard to pull yourself up by your proverbial boot straps when you cant even afford them. Ive been on the right end of wealth and the wrong end. It teaches you a lesson. True friends are hard to come by. Being a single man isnt easy, especially if you have no family left. No man is an island, but Ive been on an island many times. Its tough man. Its cool we have this internet forum to exchange ideas, but it doesnt replace real world, face to face communication. I wish we all had that. I wont lie: I NEED others in my life. There is only so much we can do alone. Bottomline: know I for one feel with you. You are NOT alone.
I know that kind of depression you are talking about. The thing is, I’ve had “good friends” before, but when push comes to shove, everyone is out there to save their own skin. If a big enough problem comes your way they will jump ship and leave you stranded. So one of the important life lesson’s I’ve learned (and I’m no wise sage) is that you create your own happiness. Even if you feel better around others and make new friends, it’s a matter of time before you end up alone again and will be depressed. You need to break out of that and find something that consistently makes you happy like riding a motorcycle, just going for a cruise, some new hobby or club, rock climbing, hitting the gym, whatever. I think you need to strive for improvement and distract yourself. If you get downtime to just think you are going to fall into depressive thoughts.
OP, I cant rehash everything in this thread, but there a couple of points you made I wanted to follow up on. Forgive me if Im misreading, but here is my synopsis and I say this out of respect and empathy. Loneliness: the single man feels this more than anyone. If you dont, I still do. I cant even get a “pep talk” from female family members, let alone any substantial support. No. Were EXPECTED to do everything ourselves. Pick up the tab. Work. Stand alone, with NOONE in your corner. If I so much as need a mere encouraging phone call, then there is something wrong with me. I dont get encouragement from women, or even men. The ONLY woman that did that for me was my mother. Even GUYS dont want to admit they are depressed to one another. If you feel alone, have no family then you are f~~~ed. I have no qualms or shame in admitting Ive been personally so low, so many times, I didnt think I could get back up. Its hard to pull yourself up by your proverbial boot straps when you cant even afford them. Ive been on the right end of wealth and the wrong end. It teaches you a lesson. True friends are hard to come by. Being a single man isnt easy, especially if you have no family left. No man is an island, but Ive been on an island many times. Its tough man. Its cool we have this internet forum to exchange ideas, but it doesnt replace real world, face to face communication. I wish we all had that. I wont lie: I NEED others in my life. There is only so much we can do alone. Bottomline: know I for one feel with you. You are NOT alone.
No you’re pretty right about what you said and I hope i’m not causing anyone to feel depressed. I suffer from it myself but I’ve learned to cope with it. I have friends that are supportive at times but even those relationships seems shallow. At best I do thing for trivial enjoyment and as long as I don’t think too hard about things I am fine with my life. There was something I read about long ago Marlowes Pyramid of Need from top to bottom. Self actualizaton, esteem, love/belonging, safety, physiological. At best we have the bottom 3, The top 3 is the trickiest and feels so tied to Looks, Money and Status. You could have the top 3 things without that but it hard because the game of life we are playing well that seems like the only way to play which one of the reasons why i went Mgtow trying to not play that game trying to find another way to be happy.
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