THE KM is a liar

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

We had about 30 members leave and not just those few who created drama. And countless posters left without making any “drama”, even before that lockout phase.

In the year up to the lockout there were many instances of members being bullied out.

Or new arrivals greeted with s~~~. And no one cared to step in when OldBill f~~~ed with people.

I was his brick wall. He is quiet since then. Why does he keep his “Galt” account?

Waiting for me to leave so he can f~~~ with people again.

If you let the fox into the hen house then don’t wonder when all chicken leave.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

It’s plain to see that no one cares about all top contributors leaving.

Bulls~~~ and you’re over-exaggerating. This forum is still active and doing fine without pete and his mindless drones. You’re defending a person who just tried to dox KM, desperately tried to polarize the community, and at the same time conspired against the people of this site on the other mgtow forum so what did you want us to do? Give him hugs and kisses and stick our tongue in petes old stinkin ass after all the s~~~ that he did?

And that shall be some kind of warning to new members not to invest too much time and energy in posting here.

Gargamel, I got nothing against you brother but you keep saying that and every damn time you guys return. The people who keep telling everyone else to leave the forum are the most active. Talk about being ungrateful.

I heard that the site is “under new management” and I am starting to believe it.

KM’s back, that’s all. We haven’t had authority in a while so we just have to get used to it and this forum was going down the s~~~ter when Pete and his buddies were trying to run and take over forcing other members to conform to their ways or be harrased out of here like THX.

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[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Joey Alfio wrote:

KM’s back, that’s all. We haven’t had authority in a while so we just have to get used to it and this forum was going down the s~~~ter when Pete and his buddies were trying to run and take over forcing other members to conform to their ways or be harrased out of here like THX.

I never defended anyone in particular. And I don’t have a total view on who was trying to bully who. And I nver particpated in ganging up on anyone except “tunas”.

Fact is – and you admit it – that there was bullying taking place – and that no one was there to stop it.

And now we see the results.

Even I have stopped creating high value threads as a result of this.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 7]

Keymaster wrote:

If that’s your way of saying you’re loving the rebuild, fixes and improvements…. I’ll thank you very much.

Not really.
I work in IT, though Web s~~~ is not my bailiwick. The changes are farts in the wind.
The KM I remember focused on men, the new KM is focused on web-s~~~

Any long term member or lurker cannot deny this.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Not realy. I work in IT though Web s~~~ is not my bailiwick. The changes are farts in the wind.

Well “web s~~~” is what I do for a living. Producing big websites for brands that you’re probably heard of. And recently I started a second company and launched a crypto currency website like you’ve never seen. It’s been in development since November and now it’s live.

Hardly a fart in the wind wouldn’t you say?

Anonymous wrote:

The KM I remember focused on men, the new KM is focused on web-s~~~

Well the KM you remember also needs to make a f~~~ing living while funding this project here .
Because if I didn’t …. who else would?

Do you MIND?

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

Keymaster wrote:

If that’s your way of saying you’re loving the rebuild, fixes and improvements…. I’ll thank you very much.

Not realy.I work in IT though Web s~~~ is not my bailiwick. The changes are farts in the wind.The KM I remember focused on men, the new KM is focused on web-s~~~
Any long term member or lurker cannot deny this.

The KM we knew once posted that there are a few co-admins all over the world, and even one in Germany…

Why has none of them ever stepped in while the troll s~~~ was roaring and KM was sick? Or had “too much to do”.

A few minutes a day would have been enough to delete the “ghost troll profiles” who spat death threats for weeks. (We always served them on a silver platter, so no time-consuming research would have been needed)

That was our “state of knowledge” and that’s why everybody felt the lockout as a controlled demolition or purge. None of these “admins” even cared to send or post some signs of life.

So if you are in your right mind you will come to the conclusion that these admins no longer exist…

BTW:

Here, I am just relaying the knowledge and “rumors” that are “out there”. Only the Cat Breeder rumor was of my own making.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[KeymasterKeymaster]

We’re building this place. If members end up tearing it down, there is nothing we can do about it.

So do they want to participate in something of high quality with high standards? Then WORK needs to be done.
Or do they want to p~~~ in our pool.

Gargamel wrote:

everybody felt the lockout as a controlled demolition or purge.

Then how do they explain everyone who DID NOT experience any problems?

It’s all imagined in your heads.

The paranoia.
The speculation.
The refusal to accept when we are totally transparent with you.
The concept that the website was sold.
The idea that I worked for the CIA.

Seriously. It’s f~~~ing INSANE.

If you have any QUESTIONS … ASK. And don’t f~~~ing speak until you KNOW. This is a rampant epidemic I have noticed. Crazy Canuck suffered from the same thing (about 2 years ago). He refused to ask any questions. He just made blind and stupid, unfounded, baseless declarations and assumptions and every time he looked like FOOL when he got the facts. He refused to believe it. It didn’t matter what he was shown or explained, he absolutely refused to accept it.

Maybe mgtow.com is just too good and great to be true!
Maybe they’re just jealous. Who f~~~ing knows. Who f~~~ing cares.

Gargamel wrote:

None of these “admins” even cared to send or post some signs of life.

That’s also False. Rock ST.Eddie. (user #2 is one of my closest associates) once posted in the forums a while back – and addressed members on my behalf. A deliberate message from me. Guess what kind of a reception he got by the drama addicts?

“Bulls~~~! Why doesn’t keymaster address us himself? Who the f~~~ are you???”

And they went out of their goddam minds.

But MG-TOWER’s thread pretending to speak on my behalf was more believable?
You gotta be f~~~ing kidding.

What’s totally astonishing to me is that they claim there wasn’t not enough transparency, and even when you over-deliver it on a silver platter, send a messenger, lay it all out with a schedule, and break it down line by line for them….. they REFUSE to believe and accept it. There MUST be a conspiracy. Just mind-blowing. I want to know if there is a word for this. Any psychologists in the house?

I want to know what it’s called when you prefer to accept the s~~~ that you imagined in your own head – or what someone ELSE imagined – instead of reality. No matter HOW it is presented, the facts are simply refused. Even the little meaningless ones! Like flat-out refusal to accept that I am the man known as “@keymaster” here. Even after multiple members have spoken with me on the phone…. and I helped them on the spot – LIVE – over the phone , and they posted in the forums almost immediately after.

There’s gotta be a clinical term for it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 7]

Keymaster wrote:

Grue wrote:

Not realy. I work in IT though Web s~~~ is not my bailiwick. The changes are farts in the wind.

Well “web s~~~” is what I do for a living. Producing big websites for brands that you’re probably heard of. And recently I started a second company and launched a crypto currency website like you’ve never seen. It’s been in development since November and now it’s live.
Hardly a fart in the wind wouldn’t you say?

Grue wrote:

The KM I remember focused on men, the new KM is focused on web-s~~~

Well the KM you remember also needs to make a f~~~ing living while funding this project here .Because if I didn’t …. who else would?
Do you MIND?

Thx fake KM.
It’s word press. Don’t be a punk-ass fake KM.

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Fact is – and you admit it – that there was bullying taking place – and that no one was there to stop it.

Do you think it’s a mere coincidence that all of a sudden stopped right when they left this forum to the other? People like Pete, Travis, Kenobi, etc were harassing members continuously, getting into fights, and always called out new members under the tiniest bit of suspicion till they no longer returned. They were draining all good things of this forum far too long until there was nothing else to drain so they moved on to another platform.

Tell me this, why is this forum so active again with the likes of those f~~~ers gone? I told you it’s no mere coincidence.

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[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Huh, neat.
Congrats on your promotion.

Cheers!

Pete said the exact same thing to me when I told him I ain’t picking sides.

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Thx fake KM.
It’s word press. Don’t be a punk-ass fake KM.

Yes that’s the underlying CMS.

Now have you ever seen a WordPress site with a books section like ours? Custom writen page-by-page? How about Glossary like ours – with live filtering – where you can type two letters into the live search field and it redraws itself? Have you even seen an online forum in the manosphere this slick? Have you ever seen a homepage that does these kinds of cartwheels? Have you ever seen LIVE aggregated tweets that collect and funnel a specific hashtag and all recent tweets on a homepage like ours on ANY WordPress site that we didn’t create? Have you ever – EVER – seen 25 entire youtube channels brought into one WP site before – which LIVE UPDATES ITSELF when the channel author posts a new video?? Where you can page through HUNDREDS of them 50 at a time and create an archive mechanism to locally store the thumbnails? Have you ever seen a wordpress site/forum where a member can directly SMS text the admin’s mobile phone with a mouse click?

No you f~~~ng haven’t. And you sure as s~~~ will never see it in the Manosphere either.

Don’t even bother. Go “fake” yourself and Have a nice day.
There’s your crackhead fix for drama. You must be very pleased.

Same time next week then?

You should have just said “thank you” or “KILLER f~~~ing job, man”.
But I guess things were going too good to last.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Keymaster wrote:

It’s all imagined in your heads.

It’s live from the heads of all who left. I am just here to sum it up.

Keymaster wrote:

Gargamel wrote:

None of these “admins” even cared to send or post some signs of life.

That’s also False. Rock ST.Eddie. (user #2 is one of my closest associates) once posted in the forums a while back – and addressed members on my behalf. A deliberate message from me. Guess what kind of a reception he got, by the drama addicts?

“Bulls~~~! Why doesn’t key master dress us himself? Who the f~~~ are you???”

And they went out of their goddam minds.

Really?

We were suspicious at first. Which is a good thing, since no one ever introduced him to us as someone with credibility or even authority.

He appeared out of nothing…

So our “drama” was FOR site security. And not against it.

But then Gambit saw his profile number and we greeted him with open arms. And we rather told him “to come around more often”.

BTW, here it is: (confirming my long-term memory)

/forums/topic/personal-update-from-keymaster/

Taken from St.Eddie’s thread:

Rock St.Eddie wrote:

Thanks you guys. There are about 6 guys who play small roles involved in the site including one in Germany. They are behind the scenes technicians and a couple in central time zone who make sure the website is running 24/7. KM is the front man and can’t always do it all as much as he wants.

This is what I was saying a couple of posts above. I just couldn’t remember the exact number…

And the thread turned out to become one of the most heart touching things I have ever seen on the internet: We all gave best wishes to KM’s mother to get better.

BTW:

The only one of us who “went crazy” on St. Eddie was “Phoenix” by asking exactly this:

Anonymous wrote:

Huh? Who are you? Why wouldn’t Keymaster just post this himself, I’ve seen his icon around.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 7]

Keymaster wrote:

Grue wrote:

Thx fake KM.It’s word press. Don’t be a punk-ass fake KM.

Yes that’s the underlying CMS. Now have you ever seen a WordPress site with a books section like ours? Custom writen page by page? How about Glossary like ours? Have you even seen an online forum in the manosphere this slick? Have you ever seen a homepage that does these kinds of cartwheels? Have you ever seen aggregated tweets that collect and funnel a specific hashtag and all recent tweets on a homepage like ours on ANY WordPress site that we didn’t create? Have you ever – EVER – seen 25 entire youtube channels brought into one WP site before? Where you can page through HUNDREDS of them 50 at a time and create an archive mechanism to locally store the thumbnails?
No you f~~~ng haven’t.That’s why I have won awards.
Don’t even bother. Go f~~~ yourself and Have a nice day.There’s your crackhead fix for drama. You must be very pleased.
Same time next week then?

This is why I know you are a fake-ass bitch.
I lurked for years…
Whoever you are, you are not @keymaster.
BTW don’t bill me again you fake-ass bitch.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

This is why I know you are a fake-ass bitch.
I lurked for years…
Wowever you are, you are not @keymaster.

Yes I am – you f~~~ing fake. Whoever you are. You are no longer welcome here. You have been reduced to spectator and can log in to delete your own account as soon as the feature is available. We expect this to be available on the account page as soon as the last contact page cancellation has been confirmed.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have WORK to do.
A very pleasant evening to you.

This is the type of childish drama s~~~ you churn up that I REFUSED to get involved in. Now you know why.

Anonymous wrote:

BTW don’t bill me again you fake-ass bitch.

You already acknowledged receipt & proof of cancellation earlier in this thread.
You should have stopped there.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

This whole purge thing really brought me a new perspective about some of the men here. I use to think that some of these people on here were like ROCKS of men. Then I found out… There just men. Nothing special about many of them. And many who said in the past they care about the mission or the message, don’t seem to want to put their money where their mouth is.

I just want to know when I can start paying for the GAULT statues again. It’s not a status thing. It’s just I believe in the mission and the vision of MGTOW.com.

And I feel god dang proud to be apart of this website and support it. It made a BIG difference in my life. And the better it works, the more men will have a place to go that will never go away, be silenced, or told “Oh just try it again!”

But, maybe its just me. But it sure seems like john was right about his vision of what he wanted to do being lackluster.

Meh, better get back to work soon. Its going to be a LONG day for me.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Thanks very much Mickey. I even helped You and Manipulated Man on the phone(!!) – LIVE on the spot – and both of you posted in the forums as soon as you logged in that you spoke personally to me.

And STILL, Grue is pretending I’m not actually me?

—

I want to know what it’s called when you prefer to accept the s~~~ that you imagined in your own head – or what someone ELSE imagined – instead of reality. No matter HOW it is presented, the facts are simply refused. Even the little meaningless ones! Like flat-out refusal to accept that I am the man known as “@keymaster” here. Even after multiple members have spoken with me on the phone…. and I helped them on the spot – LIVE – over the phone , and they posted in the forums almost immediately after.

There’s gotta be a clinical term for it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Keymaster wrote:

What’s totally astonishing to me is that they claim there wasn’t not enough transparency, and even when you over-deliver it on a silver platter, send a messenger, lay it all out with a schedule, and break it down line by line for them….. they REFUSE to believe and accept it. There MUST be a conspiracy. Just mind-blowing. I want to know if there is a word for this. Any psychologists in the house?

Sorry to say:

Now – after the purge – your transparency is top notch and leaves nothing to desire.

But before “the purge” there was no one here and some of us logged in just to watch for things to be in order. And we quite successfully self-admined ourselves for over a year.

In fact: We were exposed to those who have a power trip and we had to go in between the bullying. Or defend ourselves like a fighting animal.

And there was ghostly silence – like on an abandoned ship – during the lock-out phase. No one there to stop the week long phases of reputation killing s~~~ posts by “disabling posting all together”.

I said to myself, if this (whatever May and Tower had posted) had been posted on a live (and still cared for) website, the admin would have killed it at once. So the site looked abandoned with only a few pirates left to make noise and dismantle the ship.

Best would have been to close the log-in to all and make a statement with enough time overhead like “We open again in September”

This is where the rumors came from.

And BTW, every ship has a few cats on board to keep the mice at bay. And I supplied these.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

Good grief…

Drama out the wazoo. Hard to believe.

None of the MGTOW.com developments have bothered me in the slightest. I’m having trouble understanding why there is so much cantankering about all this. I do understand the desire for answers. But maybe everyone just needs to chill a wee bit more?

Maybe I just have loads more patience than the average Joe. Who knows?

I still believe in this place. KM, can we still upgrade to paid accounts? And if so, what’s the process? Cuz I’d like to.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Gargamel wrote:

Now – after the purge – your transparency is top notch and leaves nothing to desire.

Well …… and please allow me to LOL ….. don’t get too used to it, because normally, I do NOT have this kind of time. I have been attached to this website around the clock for 2 weeks – after being attached to it for 4 years. And NO, it doesn’t pay. It only costs.

Read the lengthy things we are working on if you need a re-cap.
They actually take an hour to write.

But I AM ONE MAN. If this website will fail because I am not here 24/7/365, then there is something seriously wrong with MGTOW.

Think about it.

This website – and MGTOW – is not “me”. It’s all of YOU. When this rebuild is complete, we’re automating what we can and I plan to CHILL for a little while. I f~~~ing earned it.

Silver Fox wrote:

None of the MGTOW.com developments have bothered me in the slightest. I’m having trouble understanding why there is so much cantankering about all this. I do understand the desire for answers. But maybe everyone just needs to chill a wee bit more?

That was my plan. But Grue wouldn’t allow it. Like a dumb c~~~ b*tch, he just HAD to s~~~ on it.
No matter how level and pleasant the communications, he HAD to be a c~~~.

Well I’m done here for the evening.
Back to work. Have a great weekend.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Silver Fox wrote:

Good grief…
Drama out the wazoo. Hard to believe.
None of the MGTOW.com developments have bothered me in the slightest. I’m having trouble understanding why there is so much cantankering about all this.
Maybe I just have loads more patience than the average Joe. Who knows?
I still believe in this place. KM, can we still upgrade to paid accounts? And if so, what’s the process? Cuz I’d like to.

Well I never created “drama” because of the lock-out since I have things to do outside of here. But I like to save things for history. And the drama also has an understandable side to it.

The more emotionally involved someone posting here was, the worse it hit him when he was locked out. That’s why the most active people on here were the most p~~~ed off about the silence.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

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