The hamster was running double time last night…

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

chir wrote:

ENGAGE HAMSTER REASONING!!!

Haha! This is exactly what I was picturing go on in her head!

Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

[OldBillParticipant]

Great report on an all-too-usual encounter, Beer. You handled your friend’s ball-and-chain and her faux sympathy with patience and aplomb. Kudos to you.

If I had a dollar for every wife, girlfriend, and relative who tried to fix me up with some slattern, I’d already be retired on the beach in Belize.

As the others have already pointed out, you won’t be seeing much of your friend from here on out. His owner simply cannot risk unsupervised visits lest a free man coax him into thinking again.

Keep fighting the good fight, brother.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[experiencedParticipant]

Her Reasoning:
If a man goes into a car lot and finds all cars lack engines, he should buy one regardless because there are no cars with engines?

WTF?
you save your money for another day

Great thread

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

Awesome f~~~ing story Beer! I’d echo the sentiments of others to be wary with regards to the wife from now on. So rate the waitress , on a scale of 1-10. I’m thinking back to when I was your age , and it was better than it is now…s~~~ is really going down hill.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

experienced wrote:

If a man goes into a car lot and finds all cars lack engines, he should buy one regardless because there are no cars with engines?

Perfect analogy man! Women can’t figure it out when you are quite content with no car vs that f~~~ed up car.

Etrangere wrote:

So rate the waitress , on a scale of 1-10. I’m thinking back to when I was your age , and it was better than it is now…s~~~ is really going down hill.

Based off nothing but looks I’d have said at least an 8 from what I could see. She had on pants and long sleeves though…so unseen tattoos could have hurt that a bit…for all I know she was covering up a giant tramp stamp or had some hideous looking tattoo on her tit that makes her cleavage not even pleasant to look at. Of course being single mom to offspring that isn’t mine is an automatic -50 so it really doesn’t matter how hot she is.

If it wasn’t for the single mom factor I’m sure she would have been enjoyable to keep around for the summer until the honey moon phase started to end and the woman inside could no longer be suppressed, but the single mom thing ruins it for good reason we are all aware of.

OldBill wrote:

If I had a dollar for every wife, girlfriend, and relative who tried to fix me up with some slattern, I’d already be retired on the beach in Belize.

Haha…sadly these days when I meet women how many more years of my life I’ll have to spend working to fix whatever s~~~ty situation they put them self in is part of my cost/benefit analysis. No way in hell is it worth working maybe an extra 5-10+ years to play Captain Save-A-Ho when that could be an extra 5-10+ years spent on that beach in Belize!

When I was younger and working hard to move my life in a positive direction I’d have loved a female partner with a similar outlook and goals to build a life with, but in the end most of them weren’t interested in that, and now that they’ve hit the wall or have permanent baggage I’m not interested in them. The older I get the more women morph from potential life partners to obstacles in the way of my goals.

[OldBillParticipant]

Beer wrote:

If it wasn’t for the single mom factor…

Single motherhood was all but an automatic deal breaker for me in my 20s and 30s. The only type of single mother I would have even considered would have been a widow.

When I was younger and working hard to move my life in a positive direction I’d have loved a female partner with a similar outlook and goals to build a life with, but in the end most of them weren’t interested in that, and now that they’ve hit the wall or have permanent baggage I’m not interested in them.

Too true sadly. I and millions of other in my generation never found the “helpmate” written and spoken about so often. All we saw then was greedy grasping whores and it’s only got worse since.

The older I get the more women morph from potential life partners to obstacles in the way of my goals.

They’ve been obstacles more often than not for most of my life. I’ve just become more resigned to that fact as I’ve aged.

There was a period when I thought I might be able to find my unicorn, many various uncles had managed to find theirs. Sadly, I’ve come to realize that they stopped breeding unicorns in the 1960s and they’ve hunted most of the remaining ones to extinction since.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

OldBill wrote:

There was a period when I thought I might be able to find my unicorn, many various uncles had managed to find theirs. Sadly, I’ve come to realize that they stopped breeding unicorns in the 1960s and they’ve hunted most of the remaining ones to extinction since.

Most definitely. I look at the deal guys got when they married that are 70+(or deceased at this point) that I’ve known throughout my life and it actually seemed like something I’d consider, and quite a few of them actually seemed happy about living the married life in their old age.

I look at guys I know in their 40/50s now who are miserably married or that got crucified in a divorce and its like you can pick out the transition decade where women just went to s~~~.

I look at women that are in their 20/30s today and its just like oh hell no…worse than ever! The unwritten rules society lived by 50+ years ago have simply gone out the window and the rules on the books haven’t changed to reflect that. Until something changes there is going to be a lot of bitter, broke, and lonely post wall women around and a lot of guys like us down on that beach in Belize!

[OldBillParticipant]

Beer wrote:

Most definitely. I look at the deal guys got when they married that are 70+(or deceased at this point) that I’ve known throughout my life and it actually seemed like something I’d consider, and quite a few of them actually seemed happy about living the married life in their old age.

True, so very true.

Of course, there is an element of bias selection there. Those happily married 70-plus-year-old guys also happen to be the guys who are still married at 70-plus years.

I think the “newest” unicorn marriage I’m personally acquainted with involves a maternal uncle and his wife who married in the mid-1960s. They married after she graduated from college with a degree in home economics.

That’s right: Home Economics.

I’m not saying their marriage has been perfect or she’s some perfect woman, but she’s been a perfect helpmate for her husband their entire life together. Thanks to her continued efforts as a stay-at-home mom, they raised three fine children, put them through college, and retired early to a dream house they built on the Maine coast. She is frugal, had a real working garden, and engaged in numerous side jobs like “dump picking” wooden chairs she’d repair, repaint, and sell to summer tourists.

Over a couple of decades, she found the shore land they loved, saved and budgeted to purchase it, found a 2nd hand car trailer, saved and budgeted for that, bought it, rehabbed it, and used the trailer as a “camp” for years while they saved and budgeted even more, then broke ground and built a house she did most of the interior painting for and all of the landscaping.

She worked for that dream house along with her husband. She sweated, saved, and fought for it as much as she did. Contrast that to today’s entitled Princess Barbie c~~~s who want their dream house served up on a platter complete with servants by some mangina slave.

As much of a misogynist as I come across, if they managed to clone my aunt I would marry one in an instant. Sadly, she’s the last of her kind. She’s an honest-to-God unicorn.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

Too true sadly. I and millions of other in my generation never found the “helpmate” written and spoken about so often. All we saw then was greedy grasping whores and it’s only got worse since.

VERY true for myself too at 49

There was a period when I thought I might be able to find my unicorn, many various uncles had managed to find theirs. Sadly, I’ve come to realize that they stopped breeding unicorns in the 1960s and they’ve hunted most of the remaining ones to extinction since.

Pretty much my take on it too…all I wanted in life was my version of Elisabeth Shue(she is still very pretty BTW) to go through life with together with. It was all a mirage though , like an oasis in the desert.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

OldBill wrote:

Of course, there is an element of bias selection there. Those happily married 70-plus-year-old guys also happen to be the guys who are still married at 70-plus years.

Yeah I suppose this is true. I suppose there is also an element that I’ve known a lot of older widowed people over the years that were widowed by the time I met hem, I suppose quite a few of them could have had miserable marriages, and who knows how many more I’ve met that had a divorce under there belt and remarried later in life and I was just unaware of their situation as they seemed like a happy old couple.

OldBill wrote:

She worked for that dream house along with her husband. She sweated, saved, and fought for it as much as she did. Contrast that to today’s entitled Princess Barbie c~~~s who want their dream house served up on a platter complete with servants by some mangina slave.

As much of a misogynist as I come across, if they managed to clone my aunt woman I would marry one. Sadly, she’s the last of her kind. She’s an honest-to-God unicorn.

That’s how I view my grandmother as well. She was 20 and he 22 fresh out of the service when they married. Neither one of them had any significant assets or debts, they married because they genuinely liked each other. Over the next 55 years they built a life together…built a house, raised 4 kids, and ultimately retired early and got to enjoy some traveling and lot’s of leisure time together before my grandfather passed.

What’s out there now? Marry a 30 year old post waller, pop a couple kids out, have her leave you 5-10 years later and rape you financially on the way out the door so you can start rebuilding your life in your 40s? Its f~~~ed up. If my grandmother tried to divorce rape my grandfather it simply wouldn’t have worked because what they had they worked for and accumulated together over time…they’d both have just ended up in worse shape. In other words if they did divorce, I think they would have both talked about what they lost financially, where as modern divorces its all too often the man talking about it in terms of what he lost and the woman in terms of what she got from him.

When women want to marry later in life so they can enjoy the carousel longer, or only after they’ve popped a kid out with some loser and realize they’re really better off with a stable family oriented guy, they don’t realize these kinds of guys have been busy accumulating assets while they have been accumulating debts and baggage. I’d have loved to be like my grandfather if she was like my grandmother…but fast forward 10 years and the arrangement has become significantly worse and more risky for me and exponentially more beneficial for her regardless of if the relationship flourishes or fails and women just can’t figure it out why staying single becomes such an attractive option.

[OldBillParticipant]

Beer wrote:

If my grandmother tried to divorce rape my grandfather…

It wouldn’t have happened because you needed an actual reason to get divorced back then. An actual reason that had to stand up in a court of law.

Today all you need is a whim that the Family Court division of Divorce Corp will accept.

I’ll be the first to admit that some sort of divorce reform was needed as the old system was somewhat tilted against women. The reform we got, however, is structurally designed to bow to women’s whims at all costs while destroying families and men for no real reasons.

In other words if they did divorce, I think they would have both talked about what they lost financially, where as modern divorces its all too often the man talking about it in terms of what he lost and the woman in terms of what she got from him.

Exactly. Back then, divorce equally damaged both parties. Today, divorce enriches women while disemboweling men.

When women want to marry later in life so they can enjoy the carousel longer, or only after they’ve popped a kid out with some loser and realize they’re really better off with a stable family oriented guy, they don’t realize these kinds of guys have been busy accumulating assets while they have been accumulating debts and baggage.

Again, exactly. As you note, men build up more to lose while women become more risky. Sooner or later, the two lines on that graph cross and the game is no longer worth the candle.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[experiencedParticipant]

…modern divorces its all too often the man talking about it in terms of what he lost and the woman in terms of what she got from him.
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YES, flip it to examine:

“the woman talking about it in terms of what she lost.”
OR

“the man in terms of what he got from her”

It’d be Seinfeld’s Bizarro World.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

Women are like female banobos. They will collectively collude to take down any perceived threat by all means necessary I.e. a single man with resources who can not be shamed back into the plantation.

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

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