The goal of MGTOW?

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  • #721932
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    OldBill
    OldBill
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    … maybe he is not totally insane…

    Psychiatric issues don’t always rise to the level of insanity, brother. It’s not an all or nothing diagnosis. There are many conditions which can be treated to varying extents by medication or other therapies. Only very few conditions require someone to be institutionalized.

    Harpo’s constant protests that he was examined and then not committed isn’t the clean bill of mental health he wants it to be. He was examined, found not to be an imminent danger to himself or others, and thus not committed. There is a great difference between what he believes not being committed means and what it actually means.

    Do what I suggested earlier in the thread and check out his previous posts over the years. You’ll quickly note that his posts wander in and out periods of near lucidity followed by periods of gibberish. You should also note that while he’s been relatively clear in this thread, he’s already lapsing back into the Christian and “I am my father” motifs he often repeats.

    No matter what, he’s not a troll and there’s no need to be suspicious of him or report him.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #721936
    +4

    Anonymous
    38

    Atheist will die and
    get dressed up and will
    have no place to go.

    Yeah ok mate.

    What exactly are you adding to MGTOW with your rambling nonsense?

    Where are your insights? As far as I can see you’re just promoting the Bible.

    I don’t need a religion to be a good man.

    #721990
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    Harpo-My-"SON"
    harpo-my-“SON”
    Participant
    2410

    OldBill
    I was given a clean bill of mental health.

    No issues found that would prevent my
    appointment to sit the bench and accept
    the duties of judge.

    The honorable mental fruitcake Has
    a nice ring to it. HA! HA!

    A humble stone mason and self taught law scholar
    uses statutory construction of truth self evident to prove that heaven is on earth.
    He claims it is where the heart is.
    where Jesus hosts the spirits of the ones
    we love forever and immortality can only be a
    spiritual endeavor.
    all of this is true and void of any lies
    unless anyone provides evidence otherwise.

    I am getting a good laugh at all this.

    the incredible accusation party

    attack the Christian he cannot defend himself
    because his mental health has been evaluated
    Matters not they found nothing wrong with him.

    You men are doing your own useless evaluation anyways.

    Fun watching people get ruled by their own emotions.

    re-read and find social justice warriors
    calling for action against book burners and faithful
    believers. Those awful Christians wanting everyone to love and respect each other. what shall we do to the
    faithful? They must be stopped at all cost
    rally the troops sound the alarm a man with faith
    in a holy spirit.

    So funny how all those who attacked and ridiculed
    me I find nothing to fear in them even though
    at least one made what could be considered a threat.

    said I should watch my back.

    Did not like that I said I loved and respected everyone.

    said I should stop showing respect.

    Not good advice at all.

    Said respect had to be earned.

    Bull s~~~ respect is given trust is earned.

    anyone who expects me to work towards earning their respect is screwed.
    But I will still respect them.
    But respect them for what they are.
    A DISRESPECTFUL PERSON.

    I will continue to be polite and show respect
    and love regardless of how many feels it hurts
    and no matter what evil vindictive trolling
    responses it incites.
    It is just the right and moral thing to do.

    I welcome the free evaluation of my moral character
    as well as my Mental health.

    those who do not understand me and call my post gibberish are revealing more about yourself than you realize to those with intellect.
    I know some do understand me.

    Love and respect to all and yes that includes you carnage. why should I watch my back?
    Are you lining up as an enemy?
    Wow I have not one single evil
    motive towards anyone on this earth.
    and you bring hostility.

    I am the meek one who has inherited heaven on earth,
    what I trade it for is all this life is worth.
    I laid it down and let my father live,
    to his spirit this flesh I give.

    so easy to understand and so true
    why would it put fear and anger in you?

    If my post trigger any of you then go
    find you a safe place where your delicate
    sensitivities are not inflamed. I will not
    be shamed for being respectful and polite.

    I thank you all for being yourselves makes
    it easy for me to evaluate your mental
    deficiencies.
    oxymoronically
    Saying you do not understand while claiming intellect.
    that is like you being in a deafening silence
    Some of you are mournfully optimistic.

    what funny ideas you conjure up about
    someone you hardly know.

    Enjoy your day you mental giants and if I don’t
    return before mating season, screw you. HA! HA! HA!

    I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

    #721996
    +5

    Anonymous
    38

    OldBill
    I was given a clean bill of mental health.

    No issues found that would prevent my
    appointment to sit the bench and accept
    the duties of judge.

    The honorable mental fruitcake Has
    a nice ring to it. HA! HA!

    A humble stone mason and self taught law scholar
    uses statutory construction of truth self evident to prove that heaven is on earth.
    He claims it is where the heart is.
    where Jesus hosts the spirits of the ones
    we love forever and immortality can only be a
    spiritual endeavor.
    all of this is true and void of any lies
    unless anyone provides evidence otherwise.

    I am getting a good laugh at all this.

    the incredible accusation party

    attack the Christian he cannot defend himself
    because his mental health has been evaluated
    Matters not they found nothing wrong with him.

    You men are doing your own useless evaluation anyways.

    Fun watching people get ruled by their own emotions.

    re-read and find social justice warriors
    calling for action against book burners and faithful
    believers. Those awful Christians wanting everyone to love and respect each other. what shall we do to the
    faithful? They must be stopped at all cost
    rally the troops sound the alarm a man with faith
    in a holy spirit.

    So funny how all those who attacked and ridiculed
    me I find nothing to fear in them even though
    at least one made what could be considered a threat.

    said I should watch my back.

    Did not like that I said I loved and respected everyone.

    said I should stop showing respect.

    Not good advice at all.

    Said respect had to be earned.

    Bull s~~~ respect is given trust is earned.

    anyone who expects me to work towards earning their respect is screwed.
    But I will still respect them.
    But respect them for what they are.
    A DISRESPECTFUL PERSON.

    I will continue to be polite and show respect
    and love regardless of how many feels it hurts
    and no matter what evil vindictive trolling
    responses it incites.
    It is just the right and moral thing to do.

    I welcome the free evaluation of my moral character
    as well as my Mental health.

    those who do not understand me and call my post gibberish are revealing more about yourself than you realize to those with intellect.
    I know some do understand me.

    Love and respect to all and yes that includes you carnage. why should I watch my back?
    Are you lining up as an enemy?
    Wow I have not one single evil
    motive towards anyone on this earth.
    and you bring hostility.

    I am the meek one who has inherited heaven on earth,
    what I trade it for is all this life is worth.
    I laid it down and let my father live,
    to his spirit this flesh I give.

    so easy to understand and so true
    why would it put fear and anger in you?

    If my post trigger any of you then go
    find you a safe place where your delicate
    sensitivities are not inflamed. I will not
    be shamed for being respectful and polite.

    I thank you all for being yourselves makes
    it easy for me to evaluate your mental
    deficiencies.
    oxymoronically
    Saying you do not understand while claiming intellect.
    that is like you being in a deafening silence
    Some of you are mournfully optimistic.

    what funny ideas you conjure up about
    someone you hardly know.

    Enjoy your day you mental giants and if I don’t
    return before mating season, screw you. HA! HA! HA!

    And we’re having a good laugh at you mate, calling others disrespectful and saying how you’re different, but really are not.

    You come across as a narcissist mate, delusions of self grandeur.

    #722020
    +3
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    attack the Christian he cannot defend himself

    I have read a few of your posts and your faith is your faith.

    You have openly attacked people for being atheist or agnostic.

    I am aethiest and have amoral compass so stop trying to force your religious beliefs onto others through shaming.

    I thank you all for being yourselves makes
    it easy for me to evaluate your mental

    I am getting a good laugh at all this.

    attack the Christian he cannot defend himself
    because his mental health has been evaluated

    You are either a troll or a TUNA attention seeking and then playing the victim.

    Either way my view is you need to be ejected immediately.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #722039
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    Harpo-My-"SON"
    harpo-my-“SON”
    Participant
    2410

    mgtow_taoist

    Was taught from a young age to be
    respectful and that I should respect
    a homeless bum on the street just as
    I would respect the president of the country.

    It was good moral upbringing that is different
    than what most young adults got and what children
    today are being taught.

    I claim to be no better than anyone else

    If you do not believe respect should be given
    not earned it will tell a lot about you.

    You only have to disrespect one (NOT EVERYONE)
    for the older generation to consider you
    a disrespectful person.
    Because that is what
    most of us over 50 was taught.
    I know those born mid 80s and later
    believe respect has to be earned.
    those born after the turn 2000
    I can only pray for because
    a large percentage lack
    any moral teaching at all.

    I was taught that a man does
    not complain and is stoic

    Today they complain about something
    they read at an internet forum that
    incites them to attack and accuse
    someone.

    You say I am not different than you
    and call me a narcissist and fail to
    see that makes you one also.

    I will take the lowest place
    going last in line.
    let everyone else go before me.
    How is that selfish and narcissistic?

    I am just a white haired old man
    a bit tired of being attacked
    a bit tired of starting over in life
    again and again. Doing something
    different so as to not get the same results.
    something so different it appears insane
    to the rest of the populous.

    I really do not have a single evil
    motive or bad intention towards anyone.
    It is no lie that I love and respect
    all. Still my expression of faith
    and the product of that faith causes
    people to let their emotions rule their
    actions and blame their lack of emotional
    control on me.

    I do understand because my emotions
    once ruled me.
    I did the same thing myself
    I would lie to myself and believe my own lie
    that someone other than me controlled my anger
    and caused it to rule me.

    anyone who claims someone angered them is a liar.
    I will go farther and say a weak ass liar.

    I cannot anger you period.
    No matter what I do or what I say
    I cannot anger you.
    I claim no agency over your emotions.
    You may say I angered you but as I said
    you are lying to yourself.

    failing to take responsibility for our
    own emotions is what we are doing when
    we let others cause an emotional response.

    I battled with my emotions until finally
    I made them my slaves
    beat the holy crap out of my anger
    and chained it up tossing it into
    a deep dark area of my psychic prison.
    same with the others jealousy, pride,
    fear, disgust, sadness.

    all but love and sorrow.
    I could not defeat my sorrow.
    I did not want to chain my love.

    I know you find my faith annoying but I turned
    to it in a desperate attempt to defeat my sorrow.
    what I found was this.
    Ecclesiastes 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief, and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

    My sorrow and I are at a stalemate.

    I apologize for the ramblings of a tired old man.

    My moral compass was welded in place by
    a very old spirit.
    There is no moving it now.

    If I am no different where is my common ground?
    Most of the members here have free will.
    I cannot use freewill. I have manifest destiny.
    My father’s spirit is real to me even if no
    one else believes in it.
    I must do his will not mine.

    This is my only chance to
    find any lasting happiness.

    no matter what you say or believe
    it is disrespectful and selfish
    to attack the chosen path of
    even one member at this site.

    TRUTH SELF EVIDENT

    I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

    #722058
    +3
    Harpo-My-"SON"
    harpo-my-“SON”
    Participant
    2410

    it’sallbs wrote:You have openly attacked people for being atheist or agnostic.

    I attacked no one you are a liar
    I have said many times that I love
    and respect everyone.
    I don’t exclude atheist or agnostic
    nothing you copied and pasted is an attack.
    I am the one being attacked.

    I still love and respect all

    it’sallbs wrote: I have read a few of your posts

    If my post upset your sensitive emotions then
    don’t read them.
    I am not a victim of anything
    but my own decisions.
    I take full responsibility for
    my meek and mild responses.
    I do not have authority to force
    anything on anyone.
    If you feel shame it is not my problem
    This is all fun for me
    I have chosen a path, like everyone else here.
    I cannot even force some here to respect
    the path I have chosen.
    That is ok I still love them.

    no matter what you say or believe
    it is disrespectful and selfish
    to attack the chosen path of
    even one member at this site.

    TRUTH SELF EVIDENT

    I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

    #722061
    +5
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    You are buying into society’s bulls~~~ and blue pill brainwashing.

    Respect has to be earned there is no reason why I should respect someone just because they are older.

    The Pope covered up for people who committed the most abhorrent of crimes -what am I supposed to respect him because he is older and has faith.

    No mate your a brainwashed fool spewing out garbage on this forum, attacking anyone who does not buy into the same bulls~~~ as you.

    I cannot use freewill

    Then you are not MGTOW and don’t belong here-simple.

    I know you find my faith annoying but I turned
    to it in a desperate attempt to defeat my sorrow.

    can only pray for because
    a large percentage lack
    any moral teaching at all.

    can only pray for because
    a large percentage lack
    any moral teaching at all.

    Enough already-moral teaching –
    try being your own man following your own moral compass.

    If you wawt to force religion on people get your self a tv show in the us and preach on there sunshine.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #722065
    +2
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    I attacked no one you are a liar

    No I’m not everyone can see the posts you have made.

    it is disrespectful and selfish
    to attack the chosen path of

    It it your path or are you just blindly follwoing what he says in a book because your life was tough and so you turned to faith.

    You said that yourself.

    Your not following your own path at all.

    Your as blue pill as it gets-blindly respecting people just because they are older-nah mate and taht’s what you were taught.

    That’s not going your own way brewster.

    Yorkshire Ripper -older than me
    Mira Hindley was older than me
    Ian Brady was older than me
    Teresa May is older than me

    Do i respect them -hell no

    Now come on what seem to be the trouble you tell uncle it’sallbs I’ll help you I’m a very moral person.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #722068
    +2

    Anonymous
    42

    I got your back Harpo! No man abused by this gynocentric system and forced to live outside like an animal will ever hear me turning them away! You’re welcome at my table anywhere and anytime between now and forever!

    I believe in hand-ups, not kick-downs! There’s plenty of jackboot motherf~~~ers willing to do the evil dirtywork of kicking his fellow man down!

    #722070
    +2
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    Fun watching people get ruled by their own emotions.

    Your getting ruled by blind faith in a book and some higher being that no one can prove does or doesn’t exist.

    You get ruled by people who told you one should always respect their elders.

    And you have the audacity to come in here and tell us …

    Mate just leave or sign up to an It’sallbs deprogramming centre in your area.

    For franchise opportunities please email franchise@it’sallbs.org

    New exclusive territories just added.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #722074
    +2
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    I believe in hand-ups, not kick-downs

    So do I but not when someone comes in here shoving religion down everyones throat,saying he’s laughing at us all …

    Re-read his posts tower.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #722076
    +1
    Atton
    Atton
    Participant

    Succeed where others fail.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #722079
    +3

    Anonymous
    38

    You take disagreement and criticism as necessarily a fault in the other person – unable the control emotions, lacking in intelligence, etc. You have written these things.

    If you possess some divine truth then more power to you. However you would do well to understand that subtly insulting and shaming naturally skeptical intellects is going to result in ruffled feathers.

    If you are as in tune with God as you claim then I would encourage you to follow Jesus’ example more closely.

    I prefer Taoism because there is little dogma involved. I am no saint. I just am.

    #722080
    +3
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    I am getting a good laugh at all this.

    If you feel shame it is not my problem
    This is all fun for me

    I don’t never have.

    Fcuk off troll.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #722081
    +3
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    You take disagreement and criticism as necessarily a fault in the other person – unable the control emotions, lacking in intelligence, etc. You have written these things.

    If you possess some divine truth then more power to you. However you would do well to understand that subtly insulting and shaming naturally skeptical intellects is going to result in ruffled feathers.

    If you are as in tune with God as you claim then I would encourage you to follow Jesus’ example more closely.

    I prefer Taoism because there is little dogma involved. I am no saint. I just am.

    It’s a troll taoist.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #722082
    +2
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    Now you listen to me mr preacher man.

    I am my own man, making my own decisions, living to my own rules and moral compass.

    Don’t even think about continuing to try and force your believes on others or try to shame me for not believing in God.

    Others might not see it but I always see through bulls~~~ -as per my name you are a troll you know you are and I know you are.

    I also know who you are and you have been on here before.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #722089
    +3
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    If you do not believe respect should be given
    not earned it will tell a lot about you.

    Because that is what
    most of us over 50 was taught.

    lack
    any moral teaching at all.

    really do not have a single evil
    motive or bad intention towards anyone.

    I do understand because my emotions
    once ruled me.

    If you feel shame it is not my problem

    Basic NLP technique to make me feel shame-this is what cult recruiters do.

    This guy is dangerous and bad news.

    Trust me he is using NLP to mess with minds and make people feel bad about themselves.

    Believe me bredrin I’ve worked in sales a long time and I’ve seen this before this guy needs punting now.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #722095
    +3
    IRuleMe
    IRuleMe
    Participant

    … maybe he is not totally insane…

    Psychiatric issues don’t always rise to the level of insanity, brother. It’s not an all or nothing diagnosis. There are many conditions which can be treated to varying extents by medication or other therapies. Only very few conditions require someone to be institutionalized.

    Harpo’s constant protests that he was examined and then not committed isn’t the clean bill of mental health he wants it to be. He was examined, found not to be an imminent danger to himself or others, and thus not committed. There is a great difference between what he believes not being committed means and what it actually means.

    Do what I suggested earlier in the thread and check out his previous posts over the years. You’ll quickly note that his posts wander in and out periods of near lucidity followed by periods of gibberish. You should also note that while he’s been relatively clear in this thread, he’s already lapsing back into the Christian and “I am my father” motifs he often repeats.

    No matter what, he’s not a troll and there’s no need to be suspicious of him or report him.

    Sure there is, MGTOW has within it, the ability to attract the mentally unstable. I’m not talking about the guys who’ve been through a divorce raping that are angry. I’m talking about the people with some screws loose.

    #722097
    +2
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    No this guy isn’t insane he is a troll.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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