The goal of MGTOW?

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

I welcome all input on this. especially the staff
for I wish to know the intentions of those here as related to their future association with this site.

I came to gain understanding.
I wanted to understand for myself
what direction I could steer my life in
so that it would have the most meaning.

I am deeply indebted to many members (too many to mention)
But a few need mentioning some are still here
some have gone their own way.
KM, BrainPilot, MGtower, Bigvikingchef, RoyDal,
and so many others.

I have found my highest calling and will do my best
to help others find the understanding they are looking for. It is easy to read the definition of MGTOW and
immediately make an accusation that seems to have merit if looked at without in depth study and review.

The accusation is that we are living Selfishly.

I know for sure that I did not pay anything to be welcomed here and that those who helped me gave of their time of life for my benefit without expecting anything in return. That is selfless not selfish.
Thank you staff for allowing a man married to Jesus
to stay aboard. Thank you for allowing a man who claims
no free will to go my own way to stay aboard this
ship and sail towards understanding for all men for that is my personal goal for being here.

Everyone wants their life to have meaning.
Do we agree that is a true statement?

If you live only for your own benefit your
life will mean nothing to anyone but the
person looking back from the mirror.
If that makes you Happy I have the
utmost respect for your right to pursue
that happiness, but I do not have to agree
with that approach to life.

I am most happy helping others to gain
understanding.

If you wish your life to have lots
of meaning then live it for the benefit of lots
of other people. Then when you look in
the mirror You are looking at a selfless
person who’s life means a lot to others.

They say if you are being nice to others
you will finish last. (nice guys finish last)
I find that choosing to take the lowest rung
on the ladder of life moves everyone else
up one rung towards their goals.

Choosing to go last and putting
everyone on earth before himself
Jesus became a king.

Makes perfect sense to me that if nice
guys finish last those guys who choose
to go last will surely finish first in
the hearts of others. Their time of life
will have the most meaning.

I hope and Pray that this post
will give at least one person here
more understanding as to the true
meaning for their future time of life.

Is our goal to help other guys gain
understanding or not?

In the name of my King, savior and Husband
A&men

The reason I claim no free will is because
I am a slave to the spirit that guides
my flesh. The spirit of my father who taught
me the most I know about “WHAT A REAL MAN IS
AND WHAT A REAL MAN DOES.” This idea of “WHAT A REAL MAN IS” does not come from societies opinions
and expectations but from the most trustworthy
and honest man I have ever known. Namely Winston
McKinney My earthly father who is self evidently
My father who art in heaven now as his flesh
went lifeless in 1999, at the young age of 56.
I must do his will now not mine.
Love and respect to all.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Should have titled it “The goal of MGTOW and the meaning
of your life” HA! HA!
We do not have to agree on the goal of this site.
we must only love and respect each others rights
to our own beliefs.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Anonymous 42]

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

The accusation is that we are living Selfishly.

We are living “SAFELY” not “SELFISHLY”, there’s an entire world of difference!

“Cast not your pearls before the swine”— Don’t give them your stuff, your decency, your treasures! Let the swine squawk and sequel! Not my problem! Not our problem! Not our responsibility!

There’s only room enough for a man to take care of himself! All other floor space is taken by greedy selfish hypergamous narcissistic over entitled women!

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

Is our goal to help other guys gain
understanding or not?

It’s all confirmation from all points of the globe! Thanks to women and cultural Marxism the western nations are in steep decline!

We’re here telling the story as to why the West is dying!

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

went lifeless in 1999

My political body went lifeless in 1999 after a lifetime of endless tyranny since 1974, and perpetrated by this untrustworthy form of GOVERNMENT.

I didn’t make the law! I was condemned by law! Condemned to a lifetime of living in the ruins of corruption!

I’m only a messenger on a path to a better place. A better life, a better well being! I am a geo political ghost dwelling in the ruins of the United States of America…

[Anonymous 42]

Right now I’m comforted by my neighbor’s gunfire! It’s the true sound of freedom! It has a nice echo!

[Anonymous 6]

for I wish to know the intentions of those here as related to their future association with this site.

What does that even mean? Can you be a little more clear please? It appears that you haven’t really read enough of the resources nor have you listen to the audio files either. I suggest that you go and actual learn first, that’s why those things are there.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Im not a hound, i smells something fishy here…

You have a husband?… that’s weird dude…

I will answer for the sake of fun.

My objective is the same objective of life itself NONE.

Im here becouse my dad is a jerk who emptied his nuts in my mother and they decided to f~~~ me over by no having an abortion.

There is no big plan, there is nothing I have to do, I’m not here to MAKE A DIFFERENCE, I’m not here TO CHANGE ANYTHING.

Im going no where, all I want is some peace and quiet, eat my food, drink my water, live life a quiet as possible and die a meaningless and boring death like all other living been that ever roamed this earth.

Life is simple:
Be born, grow up, reproduce and die.

Now the simpler version (mine):
Be born, grow up, die.

Now the absolute lazy (lucky ones): be born and die.

There is 7,562 million people on earth and we all going to the same place THE GRAVEYARD.

Don’t believe me? Go to a graveyard.

We should stop believing bulls~~~ and creating drama (love, human superiority, objectives on life, god, a greater good, do something for humanity, bla bla bla) it’s nothing more than pure EGO AND FEAR TO DEATH.

Me I’m not different I’m just lazy.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[MACHOParticipant]

Carnage wrote:

Im not a hound, i smells something fishy here…

You have a husband?… that’s weird dude…

It does sound weird, rather a big typo or his way to come out of the closet 😉 or a … of course a tuna!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[MACHOParticipant]

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

In the name of my King, savior and Husband

Carnage wrote:

Im not a hound, i smells something fishy here…

You have a husband?… that’s weird dude…

It does sound weird, rather a big typo or his way to come out of the closet 😉 or a … of course a tuna!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

@harpomason I dont think you get it….

There is no “Goal of MGTOW” Its not a movement. Its a statement of personal sovereignty. Its a realization that women are NOT worth the price that society demands upon men.

MGOTW isnt a “movement”, Its a way of life. Its rejecting the corporatized lie that it is our duty as men to be the caretakers of the greediest, unforgiving, vindictive and selfish members of society. Women have ZERO real world value to a man.

GET IT?

Thats my 2 Cents. Spend it how you wish.

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[Anonymous 42]

Harpomason is no chick and no sicko! he’s been a member here for a long time! The man has been to hell and back 5 tours!
I’m glad to hear from him!

harpomason’s welcome at my campfire anytime!

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Well if MGTOWer says so, I’m shut the hell up.

Anyway sounds weird dude, if god existed he wold be like “no homo bro”

Still MGTOW means what ever the f~~~ you want,
the objective? Is MGTOW

And MGTOW is what Ever the f~~~ you want.

Me? I just want peace, silence and boredom

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3800]

Same here Carnage. Just waiting for my time.

From the universe’s point of view, we’re just fungus on a big rock with gasses around it.

[Anonymous 3]

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

The accusation is that we are living Selfishly.

You need to read Atlas Shrugged.

THE DOCTRINE OF SACRIFICE
(“WHOEVER IS NOW WITHIN REACH OF MY VOICE….”):
Sacrifice is the surrender of value — of a higher value to a lower one, or of the good to the evil.

The code is impossible to practice because it would lead to death, and thus moral perfection is impossible to man.

The Doctrine of Sacrifice cannot provide man with an interest in being good.

Since man is in fact an indivisible unity of matter and consciousness, the sacrifice of “merely” material values necessarily means the sacrifice of spiritual ones.

The self is the mind, and the most selfish act is the exercise of one’s independent judgment. In attacking selfishness, the Doctrine of Sacrifice seeks to make you surrender your mind.

The Doctrine of Sacrifice commands that you act for the good of others but provides no standard of the good. And it requires only that you intend to benefit others, not that you succeed.

The Doctrine of Sacrifice makes you the servant and others your masters –and adds insult to injury by saying you should find happiness through sacrifice.

SACRIFICE AND THE UNEARNED
(“YOU WHO HAVE NO STANDARD OF SELF-ESTEEM….”):
If you must act to benefit others, why is it acceptable for others to accept such benefits? Because they did not earn them. At its core, the Doctrine of Sacrifice is a doctrine that seeks the unearned.

Lack of value gives one a claim upon those who possess value. The doctrine elevates failure, weakness, need, incompetence, suffering, vice, and irrationality and regards them as moral claims on success, strength, wealth, ability, joy, virtue, and rationality.

On this inversion of values, one sacrifices morality and self-esteem, and becomes both victim and parasite, with no standard of how much sacrifice is enough.

In the spiritual realm, the Doctrine of the Unearned commands unconditional love, love based on need rather than value, love for those who do not deserve it — because they do not deserve it.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

MGtower wrote: My political body went lifeless in 1999 after a lifetime of endless tyranny since 1974, and perpetrated by this untrustworthy form of GOVERNMENT.

Those who administer this government are untrustworthy
not the form of government.

I realize that Justice is not for all,
but only those rich enough to pay the
bribes to the Untrustworthy administrators.
Justice is not for the working
poor. Like you and I.

This still in my humble
opinion does not convict
the system only the corrupt
admin.

Bible says justice comes from
the lord.
My lord has become a living
person who never lied to me.
My Trustworthy legal guardian
and public defender.
Blessed are the poor
in spirit for theirs
is a chance to see
into the hearts of
those corrupt administrators
and flush them down
the toilet along with
their lies and evil
intentions.

Corruption is defined as the absence
of the truth.

I am reborn in truth.
with nothing to lose
and nothing to prove.
They have the burden
of proof not me.

Politics is not a science
unless you agree it is the
well practiced science of
deception. I say deception
is an art not a science.

I am a lowly high school
grad who would welcome a
debate with a college level
professor of political science.
In my fathers spirit I would
destroy him with self evident
truth.

Politicians are notorious liars
who ignore their civic duty to
protect the rights of the private
people. They do this without
consequences because they
presume only the duty to
regulate the public who
have no private rights.

Therefor they cannot possibly
be guilty of violating the rights
of those who they do not recognize
as even existing.

You and I both are keenly
aware that to claim a
private right is the
fastest way to be ignored.

I shall continue to reserve,
claim, invoke and exercise
exclusively private rights.
The authorities will have no
choice but continue ignoring
me.
Will the media ignore
a living person who obviously
died in 1999?
I will put them
on trial in the court of
public opinion eventually.

They will respond with
accusations against me.

I will take a stand again
as someone who loves and respects
them and wants for nothing of this
earthly s~~~hole but justice.
Wanting justice for my stolen
life and liberty is not criminal.
Without want I will always
challenge motive and continue
asking to face my accuser and
demand they explain the nature
of their injuries.

They have no corpus delicti standing
nor do they have any plausible deniability
as to having federally regulating my
exclusively private rights.
Regulating me up to the poverty level.
My father will thank them for lifting me
up one rung on the ladder of life. HA! HA!

corpus delicti= The facts and circumstances constituting a breach of a law.
concrete evidence of a crime, such as a corpse.
No injured party no crime.

The regulation of private rights is redundant
to the constitution presumed to be the supreme
law of our land and the document they swore an
oath to defend and protect.

I will laugh all the way to the federal pen
if necessary and never agree to join the largest
criminal organization on earth.
I am forbidden by my religious
beliefs from holding any and
all public offices period.

My heavenly father on the other-hand can and will
become my exclusive federal agent not facing the
people but facing off against the fed and standing
ever vigilant and watchful of any further encroachment
and violations of my exclusively private rights.

I could never have planned such an intricate
and complicated plan of salvation without
the help of my father’s spiritual guidance.

MGtower It escapes me where in the Bible
it is but somewhere it says:

“Create your own plan of salvation.”

The court of public opinion has been convicting
and punishing some people with much more influence
and power than the Judge who is financially molesting
a child of his chosen God.

I claim the federal child support enforcement
agency are a group of child molesters who
financially molest children of god who come
in all ages and need support all their lives
not just until their 18th birth date.

They need to be put in prison in the general
population as child molesters.

I pray in the name Jesus these enemies
of nuclear families are given their
just deserved punishment.

I love and respect them all. A&men

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[MonkParticipant 17057]

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

I welcome all input on this. especially the staff for I wish to know the intentions of those here as related to their future association with this site.

Troll.

Punt.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

SpiderHerder wrote:

Same here Carnage. Just waiting for my time.

From the universe’s point of view, we’re just fungus on a big rock with gasses around it.

Those gases… who farted?

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[OldBillParticipant]

Monk wrote:

Troll.

Troll? Not quite.

Mentally ill? Psychiatric issues? Most certainly.

He’s fairly benign as he doesn’t attack anyone and his “thoughts” rarely garner replies. He just dumps loads of gibberish every now and then which confuses those assuming coherence or sanity on the part of other posters.

He also doesn’t show up that often. He either forgets about us for a while or the orderlies revoke his internet privileges for throwing his pudding cup.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Thanks MGtower for being the only member with
compassion enough to help me carry my cross.

Attacking and accusing is expected from the rest.

I still love and respect everyone of you and your
rights to your own beliefs and opinions.

I have read atlas Shrugged Manfred.
You are aware that it is fiction (make believe)
My life struggles are real and basic civil rights
are for those willing to fight and die for them.
I will fight and die for my right to have
and exercise my own religious freedoms.
I interpret that as the freedom to choose
the heavenly spirit that does the lord’s
work for me personally.
My rights are only limited by the rights
of those around me.
If my choice injures you or infringes
on yours please explain the nature of your
injuries.
My truth is any and all testimony that you
fail to provide evidence to the contrary.

It is written in my constitution (the Bible)
A church is founded on a marriage to Jesus.

weird as it sounds it does not constitute
homosexuality or that I am Female.

I ask you to look at it from this perspective
please:
This sick world is calling Bruce Jenner a hero
for identifying as a woman, But they are
persecuting me for Identifying as the next
Generational version of my own earthly father.
something that self evidently is true.
I am the next generation genetically created
by my childhood hero and someone I loved and worshiped.

If you take a mans religious beliefs you are taking his faith.

If you take his faith you are taking the product
of that faith.
The product of my faith is my fathers spirit.

That is the only thing government authorities
have not and cannot take.

It literally is the last thing I have on this earth.

How many of you are willing to challenge me for the last thing I have left on this earth?

Who would like to place bets on who would win?

How hard would you fight for the last thing
you own?

I will fight and die for all I have left.

Is this so damn hard to understand?

This site exist it is not fiction. I gained
a lot from what I read here and understand
fully those who are going their own way.

I understand how fluid it is and how that
protects the members from attacks from
the outside.
Your way is yours to take and I respect that.

My way is being attacked but not from
the outside. Go figure

Pursue your happiness by going your way

respect my right to do the same.

You may laugh and I will not take offense
at this next line for it is for that purpose.

I am the first fruit of my father. fruitcake, fruitloop
what ever homophobic title you wish to use.

I consider myself more spiritual than religious.

I would rather be a spiritual fruit
than a religious nut.
HA! HA!

Love and respect to all

That picture posted by Mgtower is me in my 30th
year. Sitting on A Suzuki GS 750L series

If any of you would like conformation of my
gender set up a zoom night and I have a cam
My heavy white beard will speak for itself.

again “LOVE AND RESPECT TO ALL.”

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[OldBillParticipant]

The prosecution rests.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Guys Look up the definitions published on the urban
dictionary by harpomason please.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=HarpoMason

note the dates published.

I have been working in Oklahoma
the state that claims ownership
of my future time of life
and the product thereof
fighting for two basic rights
To travel and to work and to do both
privately without being federally
regulated by the federal child support
enforcement agency.

I was called Bob by my friends and family
My father Winston McKinney was called Bud
by his friends and family.

Bud and Bob the Father and son.
Bob (the son) Born on International
MGTOW day published
IBUD in honor of the
father.

On Feb 13 follow these instructions;
ask any female you are in a relations~~~ with
“are Men and Women opposite sexes?”

If she answers yes do the following;

tell her “opposite means opposing force,
opposition or opponent and my job as a man
is hard enough without an opponent
in my life I am breaking up with you
here is a Bob (battery operated boyfriend)
have a nice rest of your life without me.”

The next day no longer known
as valentines day rejoice and
celebrate your new found independence
with outrageous acts of self indulgence.

LOVE and RESPECT to all

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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