The Ex-Wife Just Sent Me A Snotty Assed Mean Email

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Well, I guess having gone MGTOW has finally gotten to my ex. She sent me a snotty assed mean-spirited email, with undertones of veiled court threats. I guess they don’t like being treated the way they treat us men once they decide it’s over. Dudes MGTOW does work! Now I have to touch legal base with my lawyer to prevent this crap from turning into a mess she could try and use against me in family court. I must not let her intimidate me, even though I run the risk of upsetting her more by sticking to my form of MGTOW. You all do well to stick to your own forms of MGTOW even while being intimidated by your ex’es for having your new-found MGTOW behaviour. We’ll all hang in there.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

She’s probably seeing if I will write something that will wreck my position. I will not do that to myself. I will respond, put her in her place (that’s part of my own MGTOW) and be cautious about it. I’m thinking any laywer could read what I write her, so I should at least be able to steer clear of any gross accusations.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

The less you write the better.

If you feel the need to put her in her place, do so as briefly and succinctly as possible. Say nothing that can be used against you, and send a CC to yourself so you have what she wrote that you can show family and friends if she edits the email to make it look like you said other things.
I had an ex do that. Took an email and then edited it to add a bunch of s~~~ so she could play victim.

I would just do no contact until everything is final, and then if you still feel you need to tell her some s~~~, do it then.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Oh, and get this, get ready to laugh at her too, she starts it off by saying she doesn’t want to have an email battle with me. Hilarious! Like as if I’m just supposed to take her s~~~ and shut up.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

The less you write the better.

If you feel the need to put her in her place, do so as briefly and succinctly as possible. Say nothing that can be used against you, and send a CC to yourself so you have what she wrote that you can show family and friends if she edits the email to make it look like you said other things.
I had an ex do that. Took an email and then edited it to add a bunch of s~~~ so she could play victim.

I would just do no contact until everything is final, and then if you still feel you need to tell her some s~~~, do it then.

No Contact is part of my MGTOW approach, but she’s an attention whore and gets upset when I ignore her. Plus there are kids involved, so I’m somewhat stuck in that sense.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Anonymous 42]

Point Of No Return wrote:

She’s probably seeing if I will write something that will wreck my position. I will not do that to myself. I will respond, put her in her place

You have the right to remain silent, the sooner the better!

MINIMIZE ALL CONTACT! Including vibrating her eardrums with words or stimulate her eyes by letter.

Become deader is better!

[MagusParticipant 424]

Point Of No Return wrote:

She’s probably seeing if I will write something that will wreck my position. I will not do that to myself. I will respond, put her in her place

Whatever you do assume it will be read by all your enemies and the state. So write only meek timid what did I do wrong sweet love of my life s~~~. Not enough of that s~~~ to make her want you but just enough so that when it is read back by anybody it will look like you are a saint.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Point Of No Return wrote:

Pedal, run, row wrote:

The less you write the better.

If you feel the need to put her in her place, do so as briefly and succinctly as possible. Say nothing that can be used against you, and send a CC to yourself so you have what she wrote that you can show family and friends if she edits the email to make it look like you said other things.
I had an ex do that. Took an email and then edited it to add a bunch of s~~~ so she could play victim.

I would just do no contact until everything is final, and then if you still feel you need to tell her some s~~~, do it then.

No Contact is part of my MGTOW approach, but she’s an attention whore and gets upset when I ignore her. Plus there are kids involved, so I’m somewhat stuck in that sense.

Your days of jumping through hoops so she won’t get upset are over.
Keep it about the kids then: “Hey, your email didn’t mention how the kids are. Are they doing well?”

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Magus wrote:

Point Of No Return wrote:

She’s probably seeing if I will write something that will wreck my position. I will not do that to myself. I will respond, put her in her place

Whatever you do assume it will be read by all your enemies and the state. So write only meek timid what did I do wrong sweet love of my life s~~~. Not enough of that s~~~ to make her want you but just enough so that when it is read back by anybody it will look like you are a saint.

Can’t do that, ain’t my way. I’m assuming that the lawyers will read it though. But I’m a stand up for myself kind of dude. I know the limits I figure, but I can’t stand the shameing crap no more, it’s been long enough.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Point Of No Return wrote:

Pedal, run, row wrote:

The less you write the better.

If you feel the need to put her in her place, do so as briefly and succinctly as possible. Say nothing that can be used against you, and send a CC to yourself so you have what she wrote that you can show family and friends if she edits the email to make it look like you said other things.
I had an ex do that. Took an email and then edited it to add a bunch of s~~~ so she could play victim.

I would just do no contact until everything is final, and then if you still feel you need to tell her some s~~~, do it then.

No Contact is part of my MGTOW approach, but she’s an attention whore and gets upset when I ignore her. Plus there are kids involved, so I’m somewhat stuck in that sense.

Your days of jumping through hoops so she won’t get upset are over.
Keep it about the kids then: “Hey, your email didn’t mention how the kids are. Are they doing well?”

Damned straight my days of jumping through the hoops and dealing with tactics to shame me are over!

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

She’s using the radio silence I’m providing her (the result of my going No Contact) as an excuse to play the “He doesn’t participate” card. Any surprise?

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Point Of No Return wrote:

Magus wrote:

Point Of No Return wrote:

She’s probably seeing if I will write something that will wreck my position. I will not do that to myself. I will respond, put her in her place

Whatever you do assume it will be read by all your enemies and the state. So write only meek timid what did I do wrong sweet love of my life s~~~. Not enough of that s~~~ to make her want you but just enough so that when it is read back by anybody it will look like you are a saint.

Can’t do that, ain’t my way. I’m assuming that the lawyers will read it though. But I’m a stand up for myself kind of dude. I know the limits I figure, but I can’t stand the shameing crap no more, it’s been long enough.

Sorry, but it probably hasn’t been long enough. Not until the papers are signed and filed. Go back and read SpiritRR’s story if you don’t believe it.

My advice, just stick to the facts. No emotion. She’s looking for an emotional response from you, either to fuel her or to get you to say something stupid that she can use against you. Go ahead, put her in her place. That may be the EXACT response she needs to show her lawyer so she can file a restraining order against you and limit your contact with your kids. S~~~, she can lie and file against you, so don’t give her PROOF to take to the cops.

Now is the time to take the high road. There’s much less traffic and view is much better. Besides, you won’t run into her there. It’s good practice because you’re going to need it. Stooping to her level gets really old. Trust me, been there, done that. If you stick to it long enough, no emotion, just facts, they get tired of not being able to get a rise out of you and they leave you alone. They can’t survive without the fight. The easiest, hell only, way to win is to not fight.

Order the good wine

[GrumpyParticipant]

If you are still going through the process of divorce.
Have the original content in your reply and BCC your frigging lawyer.
Play safe

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Grumpy wrote:

If you are still going through the process of divorce.
Have the original content in your reply and BCC your frigging lawyer.
Play safe

I’ve already contacted my lawyer. I’m not cursing her or making threats in the email, that’s too obviously dangerous. I’m just standing my ground and refuting her s~~~ accusations.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

TaxGuy wrote:

Point Of No Return wrote:

Magus wrote:

Point Of No Return wrote:

She’s probably seeing if I will write something that will wreck my position. I will not do that to myself. I will respond, put her in her place

Whatever you do assume it will be read by all your enemies and the state. So write only meek timid what did I do wrong sweet love of my life s~~~. Not enough of that s~~~ to make her want you but just enough so that when it is read back by anybody it will look like you are a saint.

Can’t do that, ain’t my way. I’m assuming that the lawyers will read it though. But I’m a stand up for myself kind of dude. I know the limits I figure, but I can’t stand the shameing crap no more, it’s been long enough.

Sorry, but it probably hasn’t been long enough. Not until the papers are signed and filed. Go back and read SpiritRR’s story if you don’t believe it.

My advice, just stick to the facts. No emotion. She’s looking for an emotional response from you, either to fuel her or to get you to say something stupid that she can use against you. Go ahead, put her in her place. That may be the EXACT response she needs to show her lawyer so she can file a restraining order against you and limit your contact with your kids. S~~~, she can lie and file against you, so don’t give her PROOF to take to the cops.

Now is the time to take the high road. There’s much less traffic and view is much better. Besides, you won’t run into her there. It’s good practice because you’re going to need it. Stooping to her level gets really old. Trust me, been there, done that. If you stick to it long enough, no emotion, just facts, they get tired of not being able to get a rise out of you and they leave you alone. They can’t survive without the fight. The easiest, hell only, way to win is to not fight.

By the way, I never doubted SpiritRR’s words for a moment. It’s crazy and scary, but yes, the slammer is just a phone call away. I don’t doubt that either.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[MagusParticipant 424]

TaxGuy wrote:

Now is the time to take the high road. There’s much less traffic and view is much better. Besides, you won’t run into her there. It’s good practice because you’re going to need it. Stooping to her level gets really old. Trust me, been there, done that. If you stick to it long enough, no emotion, just facts, they get tired of not being able to get a rise out of you and they leave you alone. They can’t survive without the fight. The easiest, hell only, way to win is to not fight.

TaxGuy speaks the truth. They live to fight. Kill her by avoiding it.

[narwhalParticipant]

It’s difficult to provide advice without more context. However, since you have kids, I assume you have a legal contract in place that spells out how child support and visitation is supposed to work? If so, refer to that as needed. The document defines what needs to happen, if the two of you cannot agree to do something different.

If you don’t have that legal document then I would definitely use my lawyer in all communications that are not civil.

I understand you want to do things your way, but I highly recommend that you do not engage your ex at an emotional level, ever. Think of yourself as if you were a lawyer. Everything is impersonal, even when you are referring to what you want. Everything is above board.

I used to do this with my ex, but now I don’t have to. If she were to call me upset about something or other, she know that I will tell her to call back when she can speak rationally. If she want money for something and I tell her “I don’t want to do that”, she knows that it’s not up for negotiation. I ignore every manipulation she throws my way.

She even tried to tell me once that her new husband cares more about my son then I do. I ignored her…just like a lawyer would. In fact, it probably bought me some capital since she knows how out of line it was. If I responded in kind, it would allow her to find fault in me and ignore her misstep. I won’t give her that.

Look at this way. She’s wants drama. She wants attention. And she wants things her way. Give her nothing.

Ok. Then do it.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Magus wrote:

TaxGuy wrote:

Now is the time to take the high road. There’s much less traffic and view is much better. Besides, you won’t run into her there. It’s good practice because you’re going to need it. Stooping to her level gets really old. Trust me, been there, done that. If you stick to it long enough, no emotion, just facts, they get tired of not being able to get a rise out of you and they leave you alone. They can’t survive without the fight. The easiest, hell only, way to win is to not fight.

TaxGuy speaks the truth. They live to fight. Kill her by avoiding it.

I agree, and I keep that in mind. I told the lawyer that I wanted to normalise communications ASAP.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Knightz of the RoundSpectator 319]

Good on you brother. Dont buy into her manipulative games. Shes becoming enraged and is gonna try to reduce you to her level. Dont respond to her and save the texts to use as evidence. Let her nibble on the line for a little bit and when she bites down hook her ass and get her locked up.

They Steal, Kill, and Destroy

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

narwhal wrote:

It’s difficult to provide advice without more context. However, since you have kids, I assume you have a legal contract in place that spells out how child support and visitation is supposed to work? If so, refer to that as needed. The document defines what needs to happen, if the two of you cannot agree to do something different.

If you don’t have that legal document then I would definitely use my lawyer in all communications that are not civil.

I understand you want to do things your way, but I highly recommend that you do not engage your ex at an emotional level, ever. Think of yourself as if you were a lawyer. Everything is impersonal, even when you are referring to what you want. Everything is above board.

I used to do this with my ex, but now I don’t have to. If she were to call me upset about something or other, she know that I will tell her to call back when she can speak rationally. If she want money for something and I tell her “I don’t want to do that”, she knows that it’s not up for negotiation. I ignore every manipulation she throws my way.

She even tried to tell me once that her new husband cares more about my son then I do. I ignored her…just like a lawyer would. In fact, it probably bought me some capital since she knows how out of line it was. If I responded in kind, it would allow her to find fault in me and ignore her misstep. I won’t give her that.

Look at this way. She’s wants drama. She wants attention. And she wants things her way. Give her nothing.

I give her the minimum. I follow the agreement, but she thinks I’m not following it, and so she is making a fuss. That’s why I contacted my lawyer. I did tell her that I thought she was making a big fuss out of nothing. I’m trying to limit myself as much as possible.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

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