The Enormous Megaliths Of Yangshan

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Fascinating ancient structures. They never told me about this place in history class in school..

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[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22524]

Christopher wrote:

Fascinating ancient structures. They never told me about this place in history class in school..

It is become quiet clear the people are lied to about a lot of things. A lie can be anything from fabrication to misdirection.

For example, look at the Malay Archipelago, the large chain of islands below southeast Asia.

Those writing the history books will at least admit that at one point the sunken land between the islands was above water.

This location was called Sundaland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland

Also, at that time, Australia was much larger and called Sahul. (A map of both places is in the link above.)

Those writing history books claim that such lands sunk millions of years ago.

But, given how continental plates can rise and sink as whole, it is very possible that Sundaland existed in some form during the last major ice age, during the time of early humans.

If one would want to search for ruins of lost civilizations which might be mostly intact, that is where I would look, underwater in what was once Sundaland, at the deeper parts of the continental plate where when Sundaland exist the would be valleys and rivers where people would naturally want to live.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Questions, more questions and more. Give us some f~~~ing answers at last!

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[bstoffParticipant 4865]

These megaliths are found all over the world, including lots of underwater locations.
Almost all predate human civilization, but the obvious above-ground findings are supposedly from 2000-5000-year-old civilizations, even though, in most cases, even with our current technology, we can’t build them.

That was a lot of commas. I should go for a record next time.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Faust For Science wrote:

It is become quiet clear the people are lied to about a lot of things. A lie can be anything from fabrication to misdirection.

Faust For Science wrote:

Those writing the history books will at least admit that at one point the sunken land between the islands was above water.

Yes. The history books as taught in schools are incorrect/misleading. For example, the discovery by geologists of 2 sunken ancient cities (Dwarka) off the coast of India dating back to 12 thousand years ago has shown that what we were taught in school about the timeline of human civilization is not correct. These cities were twice the size of manhattan. Some of the carbon dating estimates are 32,000 years old. These cities have massive citadel type structures. The pyramids also are older than we are taught.

Suggestius wrote:

Questions, more questions and more. Give us some f~~~ing answers at last!

Are you ready ? Human civilisation is much older than we were “taught”. Today socalled scientists cannot adequately explain how these ancient structures were constructed. Many structures around the world indicate that ancient civilisations were advanced. Cities are submerged. Therefore sea levels rose. Knowledge was lost. Imho it is incorrect to assume that today we are at the peak of human civilisation.

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[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Christopher wrote:

Are you ready?

What a question! I saw a Bigfoot or something! I’m more than ready! 😀
Yeah, Hyperborea, Lemuria, Atlantis, Shambala. But we still don’t have anything belonged to those civilizations: no weapon, no remains, no tools, nothing. Maybe they were not our ancestors. Kind of alien outposts or something.

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[sidecarParticipant 35837]

So let me get this straight.

This video is claiming that the stones in the quarry could have been moved using some secret ancient lost technology, and the proof for this is the fact that they were never actually moved from the quarry.

When does this argument begin to make sense?

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

The more I live, the more I want to go out and discover the world. And the more I want to be a scientist.

Man, would it be funny if what is left today are the dump people of the world? And all the smart ones too off, or went underground?

Then only to be ruined by feminism?

Oh that would be funny as hell. Tragic.. But funny.

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[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22524]

sidecar wrote:

This video is claiming that the stones in the quarry could have been moved using some secret ancient lost technology, and the proof for this is the fact that they were never actually moved from the quarry.

The point of the video that in ancient times, through unknown means, solid stones that size found in the quarry have been moved to create buildings and city walls.

The large quarry stones were to show what the large stones that size look like before they are used to create such buildings and walls. To give the view a sense of scale on what those making the video were talking about.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Faust For Science wrote:

The point of the video that in ancient times, through unknown means, solid stones that size found in the quarry have been moved to create buildings and city walls.

But that’s not true. The largest single stone ever moved was some statue base in Russia at 1,250 tons and that was only hauled a couple of kilometers by means of Russian brute force and vodka.

The largest single stones any ancient culture moved were a few hundred tons at most.

Meanwhile the Yangshan stele is 8,800 tons. No stone anyone has ever moved anywhere even comes close.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

sidecar wrote:

The largest single stone ever moved was some statue base in Russia at 1,250 tons and that was only hauled a couple of kilometers by means of Russian brute force and vodka.

Yes, Grom-kamen’ (literally the Thunder Stone) for the Bronze Horseman statue. It’s weight 1,5 t.

The overall length of the route made up 13 km (8 by ground). That was a well-planned enterprise. No brute force at all. First, the stone was loaded on a transport platform driven with capstans (vertical-axled rotating machines developed for use on sailing ships to multiply the pulling force of seamen.). Then the stone had been replaced on a huge barge (like this one) with a cargo capacity up to 10 000t. supported on either side by two sailing ships, and delivered across the water to the opposite shore.

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[MACHOParticipant]

This is the best and most plausible scenario that I have come across yet on how the pyramids of egypt were really built! The Answer Water! Great animations that shows how simple it would have been done using water instead of thousand of men! Enjoy!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Suggestius wrote:

First, the stone was loaded on a transport platform driven with capstans (vertical-axled rotating machines developed for use on sailing ships to multiply the pulling force of seamen.). Then the stone had been replaced on a huge barge (like this one) with a cargo capacity up to 10 000t. supported on either side by two sailing ships, and delivered across the water to the opposite shore.

Sounds like brute force to me.

I’m not disparaging brute force. Far from it. Brute force gets s~~~ done.

When the U.S. moved the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, at 5,000 tons, we used a complex carriage system guided by lasers and computer controlled motion dampers and all sorts of complicated s~~~ to haul it just inches at a time. It was very technical and won awards.

The Russians, on the other hand, were all like: “We got ropes. We got boats. F~~~ it, let’s do this.”

And then they did it. No complex technologies, secret, ancient, alien, or otherwise required.

They just went and f~~~ing got s~~~ done.

And that’s awesome.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

I just didn’t catch how they delivered such amount of the water on the pyramid tiers.

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[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

sidecar wrote:

Sounds like brute force to me.

Brute force – a method of accomplishing something primarily by means of strength, without the use of mechanical aids or thought
Then it’s time to learn more.

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[MACHOParticipant]

They didn’t explain how it got there indeed but water once transported up there does most of the heavy lifting through the natural laws of physics! What is more difficult having people / slaves carry up on their shoulders large jugs filled with water until they got the required amount (Those projects would take decades to be completed anyway, plenty of time to bring up the necessary amount of water) or carry up there the millions of gigantic blocks of stone required at height of hundreds of feet up in the air?

Suggestius wrote:

I just didn’t catch how they delivered such amount of the water on the pyramid tiers.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

I was thinking of it for a little bit. Okay, the water could be delivered by the use of the human chains. No need to carry up jugs on the shoulders. But they had to keep hi-intense of work due to evaporation, round the clock. Nothing impossible of course, but still many questions last.

If the tiers were filled up with water then where the blocks had been shaped before delivered to the tiers? The blocks are well-known for their good fit to each other. It demands on either to shape them on the spot (so no water allowed) or do it somewhere else, mark them and then sends up to the tiers in strict order.

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[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Since we speak of megalithic structures. This one is just in a few dozen kilometers from my hometown. It’s not suitable for the topic since it’s not a man-made. But still looks cool.


Scholars consider these artificial wells were used for some ritualistic purposes.

I was reasoning about building a house nearby. But it will cost a lot due to remoteness. Well, someday… somewhere… 🙂

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[MACHOParticipant]

From Wikipedia “”Most of the construction hypotheses are based on the idea that huge stones were carved with copper chisels from stone quarries, and these blocks were then dragged and lifted into position. Disagreements chiefly concern the methods used to move and place the stones.“”

Suggestius wrote:

still many questions last.
If the tiers were filled up with water then where the blocks had been shaped before delivered to the tiers? The blocks are well-known for their good fit to each other. It demands on either to shape them on the spot (so no water allowed) or do it somewhere else, mark them and then sends up to the tiers in strict order

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Suggestius wrote:

I just didn’t catch how they delivered such amount of the water on the pyramid tiers.

^absolutely this.

Under ideal conditions it takes as much energy to lift a ton of water as it does to lift a ton of stone. Under real conditions it actually takes more effort because stones, once lifted and set, tend to stay put whereas water is constantly trying to flow back down to find it’s own level. So not only is there the question of how they would get the water up there, but how would they then keep it up there? There is no evidence anywhere of anything like hydraulic cement in any pyramid’s structure.

Suggestius wrote:

Then it’s time to learn more.

You’re trying to argue semantics, which shows you’re missing the point, which is this: the Russians didn’t overthink it.

Because they didn’t need to. They didn’t overcomplicate things. They just looked at what they wanted to do, looked at what they had to hand, and went at it.

Nor did the Egyptians overthink the Pyramids. Because they didn’t need to. When you mobilize the entire economy of a country to hauls rocks, you can haul a lot of rocks.

MACHO wrote:

They didn’t explain how it got there indeed but water once transported up there does most of the heavy lifting through the natural laws of physics!

Because they can’t. Silly schemes like this are overcomplicated and wasteful and impossible to the point of ridiculousness. Because of the natural laws of physics. See above.

If you’re going to lift a ton of water up to displace (a.k.a. float) a ton of stone, you might as well have just lifted the stone in the first place. The only way to deliver at height the amount of water needed for this stupid scheme would be something like an aqueduct from above grade somewhere way the f~~~ upstream on the Nile, which is a very flat river. There is no evidence for any such construction, nor could there be, because building such a thing would be a greater effort than the pyramid itself.

And then there’s the matter of hydrostatic pressure. At the height of the great pyramid, that ridiculous stone floating pipe would be running a couple hundred psi at the bottom. You think those huge leaky wooden lock doors are going to hold that back? My little steel compressor tank blew out from less. And even if they did manage to build a water gate strong enough, how are they going to open it against that pressure? The highest water lock in the world is only about 60 feet for a very good reason.

Guys like this video maker who “spent their life in the construction industry” need to understand that that’s no substitute for a little basic civil engineering.

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