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Men, may those of you who have not yet woken up to the betrayal or those who have and have gotten out, never discover the true depth of it. We all know AWALT, and the fact that you are told things and believe them, ignorance may be bliss.
My situation, for those who don’t know, is I was semi-separated from my wife and planning an exit strategy (essentially saving up the money for the lawyer). We were living in different states, and she had a live-in. I knew it was over, and so did she, but I didn’t really truly know when it began. She passed away a month ago during this process, remote from me and her boyfriend found her on the floor.
Two years ago, I knew she was staying with a friend, a male friend, and I was told he was impotent and there was nothing to worry about. The fact that he was a truly raging alcoholic made this easy to believe. Also the fact that it took three years before my wife (who had some physical issues) would get naked in a lit room in front of me, led me to believe more of her story that she could never do that with anyone else.
Last night, while digging through her accounts, showed me a photo of her and this guy who she had a short ‘friendship’ with, in a mirror as he f~~~ed her doggy style. Lights on, naked. That photo was from October of 2015.
This was right after I told her to leave and sent her away because I didn’t believe they were only friends (as he followed her across states to our house to hang out).
I also found many more photos of times when I was told she was one place and found out she was another. Also photo booth style photos of her making out with her ‘friends’.
Another is the text messages and the depth of the ‘sexting’, even on days she was with me and statements such as ‘don’t call me, he is here’.
The betrayal goes deeper than you think. ANY, and I MEAN ANY, signs in your mind of inconsistencies and you should investigate, fully. They are your instincts for a reason… follow them. And let them lead you to giving nothing but an empty chair.
Get out men, your ‘hints’ or ‘feelings’ that something is wrong are true… trust them.
No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.
Our gut feelings are not to be underestimated.
Do not be deceived by your feelings of insecurity. They were taught to you as a smokescreen.
If you care about yourself, you owe it to yourself to pay attention and protect yourself at all costs.
Hopefully seeing those dreadful things helps you rather than hurt you in the long run, OP. Stay strong.
Anonymous42Wow Gerald! Awesome post! You kindled a bucket memories when times my instinct was going off like a foghorn! I learned to trust my instincts beyond any cloud of illusion or smokescreen a liar always creates!
They’re all Sybol minded in nature! Multiple personalities in one person!
When you examine them closely everything is and act done behind a curtain, nothing is genuine and real, no longevity, just a cunning demon!
Give a woman any advantage and she’ll weaponize against you.
I honestly don’t know how they live with themselves, and don’t want to know or find out!
Remove women from your life and you remove the psychosis! Sanity returns!
I honestly don’t know how they live with themselves, and don’t want to know or find out!
I know how they live with themselves. I gazed deep into that abyss.
They live unexamined lives. They are mostly empty shells, focused on understanding how to exploit the men around them, and outcompete other women for those resources. (they kind of remind me of Darth Nihilus in Star Wars expanded universe)
Their female gaze is directed towards men and their resources, not inwards into that empty shell called a “soul”.
An unexamined life will forever be an unaccountable life.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Get out men, your ‘hints’ or ‘feelings’ that something is wrong are true… trust them.
Exactly. I felt something wrong about my marriage in 2007-08 but really couldn’t pin pointed it. She filed for divorce in 2009. I dug some evidence and found out she cheated with muliple guys in 2008-09. She has several dating accounts, including AshelyMadison. She swore to me that was nothing, they are just some sale rep. She came home in the middle of the night for “girls night out”. Yep, they are all lies. What a LIAR she is.
Remove women from your life and you remove the psychosis! Sanity returns!
^ This. Thanks MG.
Last night, while digging through her accounts, showed me a photo of her and this guy who she had a short ‘friendship’ with, in a mirror as he f~~~ed her doggy style. Lights on, naked. That photo was from October of 2015.
While actually “seeing it” may hurt, it MAKES YOU SEE EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS, and EXACTLY WHAT POTENTIAL THEY ALL HAVE.
They’re all Sybol minded in nature! Multiple personalities in one person!
Remove women from your life and you remove the psychosis! Sanity returns!
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Anonymous13If you’re with a woman,
ANY woman,
Then you ARE being deceived in some way.
Anything from all out physical cheating, emotional cheating or just trash talking you to the hive and small white lies here and there.
Either way, you ARE being deceived.
Do you want that set up?
Nah, me neither.
GET OUT.
STAY OUT.
AND GET THE DOG OUT TOO.
Yep. We’re programmed by our biology to ignore and rationalize away our gut feelings. The mind doesn’t like cognitive dissonance and it tries hard to “resolve” it. At least 6 months before my (now ex-) wife left to go live with her “Bad Boy”, I knew SOMETHING was wrong. It wasn’t just ONE thing; it was the sum of many. I even thought about taking time off work to see what she was doing during the day, because she was spending a LOT of time in the nearest big city without any real reason to go there (grocery shopping, etc., could have been done much closer to home). I told myself that she probably just liked the “bustle” of the city. Well as it turned out, she’d been meeting her future Chad for lunch there, as “just friends” at first (not that she ever admitted to it — found out through a third party).
My point is… if you sense that something MIGHT be wrong, it’s probably already well underway. I wish I’d done more digging early on, would have propelled me to file for divorce for cause right away instead of trying to “make things work”.
GET OUT.
STAY OUT.
AND GET THE DOG OUT TOO.Keep It Simple, But Keep It
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Consider these questions:
Is it “betrayal” if there was never any loyalty to begin with?
Is it easier to just “Enjoy it while it lasts” when you know it won’t?
Anonymous43betrayal never ends. A little is revealed at first, and then more and more until everything you believed in is a lie.
Once you assume everything is a lie, it is easier to proceed, and be pleasantly surprised when something is not a lie.
I told you once didn’t I?
Don’t you dare drop even one tear for that slut piece of s~~~.
Be glad bitch is dead.
And for anyone who may thing “no ones deserves death “. F~~~ YOUUUUU.
Most of this planet does deserves it.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
She passed away a month ago during this process, remote from me and her boyfriend found her on the floor.
I envy you.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Anonymous54Allways listen to your gut.
It never lies.
It may not tell you exactly whats up, but it tells you toSniff sniff.
Time to investagate.
Sorry for what youve been through.
Consider these questions:
Is it “betrayal” if there was never any loyalty to begin with?
Is it easier to just “Enjoy it while it lasts” when you know it won’t?
I am not sure there was, but I think there was. Perhaps not overall loyalty but initially there was some loyalty while there was benefit. When she felt there was little benefit, and I felt the same, I believe that is when things changed and went south. It is probably naivety and simple mindedness that makes me think so, but I have to believe… well maybe mostly because I am a man and wouldn’t do it without it… that there was some loyalty to allow me to adopt and be a father to her daughter.
Maybe I’m still just dealing with that inability to get past it and hoping there was at least a slight bit of unicorn there at the beginning.
Lurkers… take heed. You’re watching the developing story of many men discovering things they should have understood all along… learn from our pain and our discoveries.
No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.
She passed away a month ago during this process, remote from me and her boyfriend found her on the floor.
I envy you.
Well, while I understand it, I caution you not too. At least with a divorce, though I would have likely been raped by the courts, I could have something to blame, something to be mad at and yet now, I just am hurt and empty. I want to rage at something, especially since the legal s~~~ is a mess with this whole process, but all I do is hurt.
I don’t know that it would be any different in a divorce situation, but this hurts way worse than the separation did, especially the discovery of what has gone on for two years without my knowledge… the depth of it. And I am a pretty smart guy, but blinded by my trust I suppose.
No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.
Anonymous13They’re ONLY loyal to their need of you.
And they can shove that where the sun don’t shine.
You know what, scrub that.
Even when they have a need for you,
They’re STILL DISLOYAL.
Thanks for sharing this, Gerald.
Our instincts are our best guides, most of the times.
I think that it is our “indoctrination” in the gynocentric system that makes us rationalize too much and somehow overcome our instincts and keep on insisting that our mind and rationalization is somehow more powerful and more correct than our guts.
And this is the moment where we made the worst mistakes that we can make. This is when we are betrayed, this is when we don’t push aside people that are not interested in us or in our well-being, and things alike.
In the end, she paid the ultimate price for the life she lived. I hope that she somehow regrets what she did to you in this life, and I really wish you the best, and being a MGHOW, I know that you are way better now.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
Anonymous54Anger, betrayal and grief,
Are a disgusting combination.I wouldnt wish it on anyone.
Thanks for sharing this, Gerald.
Our instincts are our best guides, most of the times.
I think that it is our “indoctrination” in the gynocentric system that makes us rationalize too much and somehow overcome our instincts and keep on insisting that our mind and rationalization is somehow more powerful and more correct than our guts.
And this is the moment where we made the worst mistakes that we can make. This is when we are betrayed, this is when we don’t push aside people that are not interested in us or in our well-being, and things alike.
In the end, she paid the ultimate price for the life she lived. I hope that she somehow regrets what she did to you in this life, and I really wish you the best, and being a MGHOW, I know that you are way better now.
Thank you, and if I believe in an afterlife any longer, I’d say I think that she does, but I’ve given up that hope/belief years ago. I’m just trying to do what I can with what I have here and make it something worthwhile… though not so sure how that is working out for me so far 🙂
No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.
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