The Confederate Monument Crisis Analysed

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I direct this post primarily to our MGTOW brothers in the US, as I’m certain those in foreign countries find this media concocted crisis inexplicable.

I knew this was coming years ago. It began even before Obama was elected. But once he became the deity of the left and began to make utterances disparaging the culture and history of the United States I knew the ball was rolling. It began with the “desperate clingers” comment–insulting those who hold dear to the belief in God and our right to bear arms and then there was the “racism is in the DNA of white America.” And then really picked up steam when Hillary declared half the country “deplorable” for having the temerity to hold sacred the constitution of this country. Those dog-whistles were heard loud and clear by their minions.

First came the demands to purge the confederate flag–first simple things like the car from the old Dukes of Hazard TV show, then NASCAR banned the flag, then States where the confederate flag was incorporated into the state flag—then schools came under fire if their teams were the “rebels” or had the name of confederate officers.

And now we find ourselves at the next logical step–dragging down statues that have stood for decades.

Brothers the tragic truth is that this drive is fueled by nothing more than a deep rooted hatred of our country, its culture, and our history and frankly the favorite questing beast/boogeyman of the left: the white straight christian male. and the drive to eradicate all vestiges of that culture will never cease. And for a very simple reason: The sad truth is that what will satisfy this hatred of America will never ever EVER come from tearing down flags, or monuments, or debasing all this white an male; because it is within the person themselves.

I lived in Richmond and I’ve stood beneath the Statue of Robert E. Lee overlooking the James river; I’ve been to Stone mountain Georgia and seen up close (if you take the trolley) the carvings. they inspire me with both a sense of melancholia for those who fought for a losing cause and pride in their bravery and commitment to principal. Now someone else may believe they are symbols of bigotry and racism. But how they see it and how I see it are two different things. the question is WHY does their belief trump mine. WHY should their belief be indulged and upon what authority is their belief supreme to mine? I’d like the talking heads to answer than one.

What is wrong with putting it to a vote? Let the people decide—but the authoritarian left doesn’t work that way. You see they believe they are smarter, intellectually superior and thus morally superior to all of us “deplorable s”.

All I can say is to reiterate that their hate of America is internal and no external stimuli will ever satiate it–thus they will never ever stop. Rather they must BE stopped. Am I advocating violence? Look at the history in the world–when two groups oppose each other and one uses violence while the other eschews violence; those that refrained end up face down in the killing fields. RE: Russia 1917, China 1948, Hungary 1952, Cuba, Cambodia, Cuba and so on.

I hope this analysis helps our foreign brothers understand the hatred and hysteria of the communists in this country and their inevitable march to destroy all of our institutions, and perhaps the cowardice of our leaders in seeking to endlessly appease them.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22594]

PistolPete wrote:

It began even before Obama was elected.

As other people on the web pointed out. Obama may be the best gift on this issue. If Confederate Monuments are such an issue, why did Obama and his supporters do nothing during his EIGHT YEAR WATCH on this issue.

PistolPete wrote:

And now we find ourselves at the next logical step–dragging down statues that have stood for decades.

These lunatic progressive fanatics are even damaging statues of Lincoln: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/awful-lincoln-memorial-vandalized-explicit-language-photo/

AWFUL: Lincoln Memorial Vandalized with Explicit Language (PHOTO)

Wow! In Chicago someone defaced an Abraham Lincoln statue from 1926…

What the hell is going on? pic.twitter.com/DTbZPyQmtG

— Harlan Z. Hill (@Harlan) August 17, 2017

[joetechParticipant]

Millenials today have not been taught American history. When I was writing my book many of these kids asked me what was so special about the USS Arizona. When I grew up that was common knowledge. I got the benefit of learning about the Civil War on both sides of the Mason Dixon line. I spent my first 14 summers in South Carolina and I’ve been to Gettysburg, Stone Mountain, and Cicamauga. These symbols that these uneducated morons choose to label as offensive are nothing more and nothing less than a piece of American history. But, no one learns history anymore. Many times I’ve heard arrogant f~~~wits say if it happened before I was born, I don’t care. If you’re too lazy or too stupid to care about history then you won’t understand how the world became what it is, and you leave the door open to repeat history. Our society has been inundated with immigrants who don’t learn our language, don’t care about our history, and many times resent people that are not from their country of origin. It’s easy to brainwash people of low educational status, but what they don’t realize, what they’ll never realize until it’s too late is that if we don’t fight for our freedoms, including the freedom to honor our war memorials, then one day, when everyone else has been arrested and sent to a camp, there won’t be anyone left to fight when they come for you.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[joetechParticipant]

This guy makes some good points.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Anonymous 54]

Sometimes I think its about removeing anything Male.
Cival War Statues are an easy target for them.

I think this is only something Southerners could comprehend.

Some peoole hate.

But far, far more just love their Heritage.

[StealthParticipant 5410]

When I see the confederate debate today, I mostly see hateful people screaming about it. Many of them make disparaging statements about ethnic groups or violent and hateful statements about men. Today it’s the confederate flag, tomorrow it will be something else.

Catering to this kind of mob hysteria just turns their embers into fire.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[ghostParticipant]

Some idiot asks Trump near the end of this if he is against the Confederacy. Can someone please inform this f~~~ head that the Confederacy ended in 1865?

Press conference clip

I would also like to point out that no one in the media mentioned that Trump said it was up to the local town or community to decide what to do with the statues. I am a big proponent of decentralized government and State’s rights. I even read someone say that George Washington did not commit treason like the Confederates. People forget that we were part of an oppressive British Empire at one point and had to commit treason to win our Independence. If the South had won (which they almost did), we would be having a different debate. These people just want to agitate for the sake of it. They make me sick.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

PistolPete wrote:

I lived in Richmond and I’ve stood beneath the Statue of Robert E. Lee overlooking the James river; I’ve been to Stone mountain Georgia and seen up close (if you take the trolley) the carvings. they inspire me with both a sense of melancholia for those who fought for a losing cause and pride in their bravery and commitment to principal. Now someone else may believe they are symbols of bigotry and racism. But how they see it and how I see it are two different things. the question is WHY does their belief trump mine. WHY should their belief be indulged and upon what authority is their belief supreme to mine? I’d like the talking heads to answer than one.

I couldn’t agree more Pete!

I think we need to revere and learn from history.

Learn from our mistakes as species and edify the better aspects of the journey.

I think this statue removing is just the beginning.

Where does it end?

Hell 41/56 Founding Father’s had slaves, are we to burn the Constitution, now?

They were racists bigots….

This is ridiculous.

I’m not condoning slavery at all.

It is a deplorable evisceration of a human being’s freedom of choice, and it is one of the most evil institutions that ever existed. I don’t agree with human trafficking either, but I digress.

Look my point is, that slave trading was a terrible practice first introduced by the Slavs, and it is still around to this day…

The left’s focus and ire should be placed elsewhere.

Gee… idk maybe where there is actual slavery?

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

ghost wrote:

Some idiot asks Trump near the end of this if he is against the Confederacy. Can someone please inform this f~~~ head that the Confederacy ended in 1865?

I heard this also—what an idiot. that person’s press credentials should be revoked immediately.

[StealthParticipant 5410]

I am not from the south, but I respect its heritage.

It is my understanding that the Civil War established the Federal government’s supremacy to states’ rule and was a giant step toward today’s more policed state. Removing the memory of this fight towards independence just accelerates our downward slope into federally dictated government. If the left’s agenda is to disarm the populace, erase the memory of struggle against federal rule, and create a consumer-based economy, these are all serious red flags of seeking absolute power at the expense of the well-being of the people.

It’s no coincidence that the SJWs calling for the vandalism of the south are the voting puppets of the left. Their behavior reminds me of the monsters from I Am Legend, as we accelerate our journey away from civilization.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22594]

joetech wrote:

Millenials today have not been taught American history.

I would not be surprised if it turned out most millenials would believe the falsehood that Lincoln lead the Confederacy.

[Anonymous 54]

I know my self.

If anyone defaced a Statue of Robert E. Lee in my presence…..

[Anonymous 54]

Well, aparantly ole Ben Franklin owned slaves.

Good bye Ben.

[StealthParticipant 5410]

PistolPete wrote:

someone else may believe they are symbols of bigotry and racism. But how they see it and how I see it are two different things.

Exactly. It’s a whole lot of projecting going on. Hateful, racist people fighting what they call hateful or racist.

Someone came along and said the Confederacy equals racism, which is bad, so let’s deface it. It’s like someone thinking the color black means the devil so let’s never use black ever.

It’s like toddler thinking. And it’s getting out of control.

MGTOW Knight wrote:

I think this statue removing is just the beginning.

Where does it end?

Book burning is just a step away.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[ghostParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Well, aparantly ole Ben Franklin owned slaves.

They should start burning their $100 bills. They probably don’t have ANY though.

[Anonymous 54]

Cnn is running stories about Lees’, and other decendents saying they should be taken down.

I would leave it up to them.

2 things to say.

It will make me cry.

My childhood Hero was Mr. Wendell Scott.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Let us do something the media is incapable of doing—applying logic to the issue. The plain unadulterated fact is that exactly 2% of the population of the “south’ owned slaves so how does one account for the thousands and thousands that lost their lives and limbs fighting for the south? Were the committed to dying so someone else could own slaves or was there another reason? Could it be they fought out of loyalty to their state? Could it be they fought out of loyalty to the notion of freedom and liberty?

Ask yourselves would you sacrifice your life/limb so some tiny minority could hold slaves or for some higher purpose?

[ghostParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

Could it be they fought out of loyalty to their state? Could it be they fought out of loyalty to the notion of freedom and liberty?

Exactly! Trying to instill any sort of logic into these leftist cucks requires a couple of Tylenol’s at the bare minimum. You have more patience than me.

[joetechParticipant]

One Confederate soldier put it quite concisely when asked after he was captured at Stone Mountain, “Why are you fighting?” He said, “I’m fighting cause y’all are down here.” I think most southerners were as fed up with Washington, D.C. as most Americans are today. Instead of tearing down war monuments why don’t we tear down our tax system and replace it with something simpler that works for everybody? That would be a productive endeavor. There’s no bigger slave in North America than the American taxpayer.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Anonymous 54]

Some years back, I was working in a guys house. Hey was from Germany. He had up a small picture of his Grandfather. In his Nazi Uniform! I was insenced! I thought, how dare he! This is the f~~~ing USA, you cant have that pic up!
But I thought about it a minute. This was his Grandfather. His Heratige.

I asked him if he was a good Soilder.

He said yes.

I left it at that.

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