The Concept of "Man Caves"

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Something I always found slightly annoying is that women always have the complete choice when it comes to the house’s interior.  If a husband wants his house to have a certain design, that’s just “too bad.”

I was seeing a commercial just now that was reminding me of that.  It has two women.  One is bragging about how her husband bought all of the stuff he wanted for the house, and the other woman asks: “What happened to his stuff?”  The wife’s response is, “oh, it’s in the basement now.”  Cut to a scene of the husband and his friend jumping up and down on the couch, presumably watching football.

I’ve always seen a man’s room of comfort and self-expression limited to either the smallest or most hidden room in the house, usually by discretion of the wife.  Others I’ve seen are in either garages or rooms half the size of their garage.  Sure, these make for awesome getaway rooms, but since when do married men get away from their wives in the first place, even in their supposed “private sanctuary?”

It then got me to thinking about previous relationships, where the women would tell me “that design is tacky” or “I don’t like the colors in that, how about this instead?”  I’m no fashion designer or interior decorator, but I sure like to have a theme set in mind for my place.  I was never given that opportunity when with a woman.  It was all “her” choice.  I tend to prefer a black and white city-styled theme, the women I’ve known generally prefer “cute” and “colorful”, or other things.

We all know what the consequences are if we wouldn’t give into what they want, while they don’t expect any consequence of going against our wishes.

[RennieParticipant]

Used to be men, had a study, which was a fairly good sized office and no one entered without his permission.

Also I’ve seen time and time again, guys who have had to get rid of their vintage computer collections/or pass up on things because cupcake didn’t like them.

[Smacktalk73Participant 296]

Allow me to present a different characterization of things:

The idea of a “home” is a strictly feminine concept.  It is a nest, a safe haven, a comfort zone. Without men, women would make sure “homes” got built.  Without women, men would have AT MOST a “man cave.”  Or no cave at all — simply live in the world.

Women make 80 percent of purchasing decisions in the U.S., and control over half the wealth.  This despite the fact that (allegedly) they only earn 76 cents on the dollar compared to males.  Women need STUFF.  Women need a HOME.  Women arrange things, manipulate things.  Women are the center of their world, and act like it.

If you aren’t getting your “man cave” it is because you are trying to please a woman.  Stop it.  You see a woman as something to be “pleased.”  Your identity is validated if you feel you are pleasing her.  It is a challenge, and you accept it.  But she ALSO sees her own job as to please herself, and sees your function as to please her. Pleasing you isn’t on her radar once she’s captured you (of course, during courtship she may ACT like she wants to please you, but this is bait, not reality).

Thus, if you TRY to please her, you will find she is never actually happy, but you are endlessly asked to do more pleasing.  Because in her eyes, that is your job.  As long as the two of you agree, you will be happy together.  But if you want to make yourself happy, you are going to come into conflict.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

I had a man cave…It eventually became a couple of shelves of stuff I liked…which got destroyed in a fire when the exes hair dryer shorted out….then it was the garage…where she leaned stained wood against my rare Spider-Man posters. Did I mention I got $0 of the insurance money?

“Put your s~~~ in storage and go visit it once in awhile.” -Denis Leary-

Currently rebuilding the collection. I will never go through that again.

Fuck this planet.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

The way I always saw it was “if she doesn’t like it, that’s her problem and too bad.”  I’ve not been married, and maybe it’s silly, but this is one of the many reasons why as well.  I like my cool and unique stuff, and I like to share it with others to view.  If she doesn’t like it, that’s her problem.

[lonestar77Participant 406]

My man cave is the s~~~.  I have a pool table, dart board, mini fridge, flat screen and more… and how is this possible you ask? I’m A MGTOW! There would be NO way I would be able to keep ANY of my s~~~ if a woman was involved.

I wanted to get my dad a portable record player for his birthday for all his old vinyl, but learned yesterday my mom threw out EVERY record! I felt so sorry for him.. that’s the price you pay (one of the many) for being married. Lesson learned pops, lesson learned.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I once had a woman at my apartment who told me that if we were married, NONE of my autographed Gary Numan vinyls or other memorable things signed by other bands would be allowed to be hung up in the living room.  I told her “that’s why I’m glad I’m by myself.  I can hang up whatever the frag I want.  If I think it looks cool, it’s going up.”  People can deal with my Venom/Spider-Man cloth poster and favorite comics proudly displayed.  I’m not taking anything down.  If they don’t like it, that’s just toooooooo bad!

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

A very astute observation!

I will be living out of the truck very soon; things are coming together slowly.  Houses reek of simping, the same behaviour that compels bowerbirds to build extravagant nests to attract mates.  Men do not need them; we could live under the stars if it pleased us.  Women, on the other hand…

Smacktalk73 wrote:

Allow me to present a different characterization of things: The idea of a “home” is a strictly feminine concept. It is a nest, a safe haven, a comfort zone. Without men, women would make sure “homes” got built. Without women, men would have AT MOST a “man cave.” Or no cave at all — simply live in the world. Women make 80 percent of purchasing decisions in the U.S., and control over half the wealth. This despite the fact that (allegedly) they only earn 76 cents on the dollar compared to males. Women need STUFF. Women need a HOME. Women arrange things, manipulate things. …

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I did a whole thing on the Man Cave a few months back: check it out.

/forums/topic/the-man-cave/

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Fantastic!  I wasn’t sure if that topic had been covered yet.  That’s awesome.  I especially like how you used The Incredibles (one of my favorite movies of all time, definitely my favorite Disney/Pixar movie) as an example.  This movie came out when I was in high school, and even then I saw Bob Parr/Mr. Incredible as my favorite character, as he seemed to be the most like how I pictured my future self if I was in his situation.

[33wolfmanParticipant 216]

When I was growing up my dad worked on a small farm, so I grew up having farm toys. Later in life I started collecting the smaller ones as a way to reconnect with that past. The last house me and the ex lived in had a nice large room with a shelving unit on it. Right away that became her “craft” room. She used it maybe three times and then just left her s~~~ in it, so I started boxing her s~~~ up and moved it to another room, then I started putting MY collection up. Boy, did I catch constant flack for that, it didn’t matter that I was in there doing something almost every day, it was supposed to be HER room. She ended moving into one of the smaller bedrooms (slept there too). I guess she started to realize I was tired of her headgames and other s~~~ and not to long after ran back to her parents house with her youngest kid. Funny thing is after she and her demon spawn left I maintained the house cleaner then she did, and me working twelve hours a day and coming home to three dogs. As the old saying goes, you give them a inch and they take a mile, well, I started to take some inches back.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

I once had a woman at my apartment who told me that if we were married, NONE of my autographed Gary Numan vinyls or other memorable things signed by other bands would be allowed to be hung up in the living room. I told her “that’s why I’m glad I’m by myself. I can hang up whatever the frag I want. If I think it looks cool, it’s going up.” People can deal with my Venom/Spider-Man cloth poster and favorite comics proudly displayed. I’m not taking anything down. If they don’t like it, that’s just toooooooo bad!

You think a bitch would somehow be smart enough to AVOID saying s~~~ like this to you BEFORE a wedding date. Most of them don’t want men to know their true intentions until it’s TOO LATE to do anything to stop them legally.

“Yeah, when we get married, none of your band posters and vinyls are going to be in the living room!”

That sounds like something really selfish and bitchy to say. And women who slip s~~~ like this out of their mouths wonder why they can’t find a good man. Maybe because the bitch herself has a big case of diarrhea mouth and begins showing her true side when the guy has the option to dump her.

Also, watch out for remarks like, “This place could use a WOMAN’S touch!” Right there, that shows that anything you felt like you had going for you in your masculine environment would be CHANGED the moment she had full control. Gotta get rid of that couch! Oh, that armchair HAS to go. This bed MUST be replaced!

And anything you feel like can be spared from her “cutbacks” ends up in the basement “man cave.” And in the end, you barely recognize your own house as it’s replaced by feminine s~~~ from IKEA and Home Depot.

[RennieParticipant]

mgtow_85 wrote:

Megachris% wrote:

I once had a woman at my apartment who told me that if we were married, NONE of my autographed Gary Numan vinyls or other memorable things signed by other bands would be allowed to be hung up in the living room. I told her “that’s why I’m glad I’m by myself. I can hang up whatever the frag I want. If I think it looks cool, it’s going up.” People can deal with my Venom/Spider-Man cloth poster and favorite comics proudly displayed. I’m not taking anything down. If they don’t like it, that’s just toooooooo bad!

You think a bitch would somehow be smart enough to AVOID saying s~~~ like this to you BEFORE a wedding date. Most of them don’t want men to know their true intentions until it’s TOO LATE to do anything to stop them legally. “Yeah, when we get married, none of your band posters and vinyls are going to be in the living room!” That sounds like something really selfish and bitchy to say. And women who slip s~~~ like this out of their mouths wonder why they can’t find a good man. Maybe because the bitch herself has a big case of diarrhea mouth and begins showing her true side when the guy has the option to dump her. Also, watch out for remarks like, “This place could use a WOMAN’S touch!” Right there, that shows that anything you felt like you had going for you in your masculine environment would be CHANGED the moment she had full control. Gotta get rid of that couch! Oh, that armchair HAS to go. This bed MUST be replaced! And anything you feel like can be spared from her “cutbacks” ends up in the basement “man cave.” And in the end, you barely recognize your own house as it’s replaced by feminine s~~~ from IKEA and Home Depot.

No piece of ikea furniture will ever darken my door. Ever.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

My idea of a “nice” place is basically one big man cave…whether that’s my apartment or a future house.  I love the look of cityscapes and have been using that theme with black and white along with a little of my musical and geeky side.  I think that’s fashionable enough…to ME.  It makes ME feel awesome to come home to.  If a woman finds it “tacky” (that seems to be their favorite word), I just resort them to this song:

[Anonymous 42]

@Megachris%, my idea of the perfect home is having motorcycle access to the living room. A great big (deep) swimming pool, a diving board on the 3rd floor roof, with a water slide next to it. It would be a MGTOW house! Way better than the playboy mansion, no women f~~~ing things up…How cool is that? Looks like one of my signatures!

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

HAHA, that’s actually a GLORIOUS idea.  I could imagine leaving the house through the living room on that motorcycle, Batman-style (or something like that)!

[Anonymous 42]

Don’t laugh, my garage floor has posi stripes, the upstairs has doughnuts from a honda70 I store up there, so does my property in VT, I can’t help it, I like doughnuts more than most 3rd shift police officers!

If my doughnuts were fattening, I’d weigh 5,000 lbs! It sickens me how much tires cost! I guess it’s all part of the cost for being me!

Did you ever bleach your tires?

One time I left a parking lot, leaving behind a white mushroom cloud! My qtr. panels were covered with hot chunky rubber, we drove for a 1/2 mile with the doors wide open to clear the smoke, it’s like they say; smoke em if you got em!

 

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

F~~~ man caves.

A man’s home is his castle.  His entire home.  Entirely his castle.

The arrogance of women demanding some man pay the mortgage on a whole house and then trying to tell him he only gets one room.  F~~~ that.  S~~~ like so-called man caves are one of the reasons why men are Going Their Own Way.

mgtow_85 wrote:

Also, watch out for remarks like, “This place could use a WOMAN’S touch!”

There’s only one good reply to something like that: “Bitch, the only thing in my home that needs a woman’s touch is my c~~~.”

Then there’s stuff like women prepping for “micro-divorces” described here:

[Lucas BuckParticipant 51]

Well…sometimes a man has to make due with what he has… So the mancave is springboarding my career….my office. With a child headed to college…. why buy a new house? Mancave..for fun… and many MGTOWS will shoot their mouth off about taking the whole house… yet I love not having to see the wife. There are married MGTOW evolving their lives. Then there’s the batcave. A lab, shop or office.. where you crank work out…making a future life possible.

If you only get one room out of the house for yourself, and you love not seeing your wife, what the f~~~ are you still married for… I guess I don’t get it and never will.  Because it’s ‘easier’? F~~~ that.

I agree with Doc Fenderson and others: the whole concept of a ‘man cave’ is complete bulls~~~ and demeans men.

[Darth SinParticipant 576]

F~~~ man caves. Man caves are for pussy whipped manginas who got enslaved married.

As a MGTOW, I am happy with a decent sized apartment or a bachelor pad. No need for a big house or even a house. I don’t need much space. Just need a study table, a kitchen, a bathroom, a bed and a place to put a screen for gaming or watching movies.

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