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This sends shivers down my spine. Let’s wait and see what the feminists have to say. I’m pretty sure there’ be a feminist missionary saying, “Wear your armor, pick up your shields, women! Let’s fight these bastards.”
If that happens for real, I will acknowedge these women have b~~~~. IF it happens.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I think most of us, including myself, don’t really Islam too well. Do you have any backing for the MGTOW part?
@phoenix, I am not an expert on Islam, that is why I posted the questions, with all due respect I find that argument disingenuous, I can just as easily ask do you have any backing for Islam being anti-MGTOW?
Tell me, how is that they respect the masculine
Islam respects STRENTH, good old fashioned testosterone induced POWER. They do not bitch and moan about rights and beg for permission, they take ACTION.
Yes they KILL those that oppose them. That is MASCULINE, that is POWER, writing a few cartoons is not Masculine, unfortunately Western Gynocentric Feminist indoctrinated men are NOT MASCULINE.
They RESPECT the masculine by respecting STRENGTH and POWER .
Or because their WOMAN told them so?
That is a western gynocentric feminist indoctrinated man, NOT a Muslim.
They portrait men as animals that need a leash
Yes I do agree, that is correct. And they LIMIT women’s actions, and put the responsibility back onto woman to be modest. Compare that to what we have here.
How is it keeping woman in check when they think that a woman OPENING THEIR LEGS is equivalent to a man’s LIFETIME HARD WORK? That is not keeping woman in check, that is keeping men on a leash.
You are confusing western laws, women under Islam have limited rights, extreme, YES, in men’s best interest? Definately.
Well, than correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t apostates sentenced to DEATH under Sharia Law?
Exactly, no f~~~ing around, is it extreme and harsh? Definitely, but its consistent and demands respect.
Isn’t the death on non-muslims EXCUSABLE under ISLAM?
Probably, but I am suggesting if we became Muslim we would have a better environment than what we have now.
Isn’t permissible male infants have their penis mutilated (circumcision), under ISLAM?
Yes, true that is a price.
Isn’t it ok for a man RAPE NON-MUSLIM WOMEN, and CHILDREN under Islam?
I think that is an EXTREME you are referring to, isn’t it just as common for priests to fiddle with children?
Rotherham
A perfect example of the Feminized West being weak as p~~~ letting a bunch of organised thugs get away with anything. Do you really think they would have got away with that s~~~ under Islam?
If this isn’t blue pill, I don’t know what is. We have discussed extensively on this site how ONE wife can ruin your life. And that is even without the laws being against you, and you are gloating that “under Islam we are allowed to have FOUR”?
I’m afraid you miss the point, it is the feminized laws that are the problem.
You are confusing the situation we have currently with an entirely new paradigm.wives, over which you have TOTAL rights.
You have total rights over your wives, perhaps I didn’t communicate clearly enough.
Yeaaaaah, except that you are not allowed to go your own way either. Again, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t there already sharia law patrols in the UK that harassed ANYONE that didn’t follow STRICTLY the rules of ISLAM? Tell me, how does this DO NOT conflict with the MGTOW lifestyle?
Those laws mainly apply to woman, their attire and behavior, which quite frankly I would suggest are superior to what we face at the moment. I do not see how women’s attire affect my MGTOW lifestyle.
The only other limitation I can see is on alcohol.Under Islam, we lose everything if we are not muslims. Since I am NOT willing to exchange my FREEDOM for some cheap ass ideology, count me out.
I am willing to do whatever it takes for a shot at a better life, where I free myself from Gynocracy.
Survivor is not the only one under the “blue pill” influence. In fact, he might be a woman (I got that impression too), but you, if you really think Islam (sharia law) is not one of the bluest pill religion/ideology out there, you are insane.
I would like to highlight that I have maintained my respect, without trying to shame, and I am honestly after insight as I am totally fed up of the current Gynocentric system. I am looking at alternatives, in pursuit of a better way.
We are all under the “blue pill” influence, I have moved beyond that now and am willing to look at alternatives.
You have failed to logically argue how I am worse off converting to Islam under Islamic rule.
Remember the cardinal rule: What is in it for me? Remember…F~~~ everyone else…Now how blue pill is that for you?Ever wonder why there are not that many Muslim MGTOW?
Any possibility that the reason lies within them having rights and a positive environment?When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
Want to see the future of Europe? Read this article then buy the book. Horrifying, made my blood boil as I compared the current reality parallels to the book.
http://thinkingmansguidetotheworld.blogspot.com/2010/12/book-review-caliphate-by-tom-kratman.html%5B/quote%5DChir this is really interesting, thanks for sharing.
Feminism has been around in some form for over a century. Do you think men wanted to go and die in WWII? Especially with those “suffragettes” around getting everything they wanted? All it took was white feathers to get men to kill themselves.
That was then. This is now.
Those men hadn’t had a century of feminism exposing its selfish, greedy, gynocentric nature. Those men expected to receive at least a little respect and gratitude for their sacrifice.
Men today know better. Men today know they can only expect contempt and resentment for sacrificing themselves. So they aren’t. The fact that this thread exists is evident of that. If 95% of men really were still white knights, european women wouldn’t be begging for protectors.
That’s why they have “drafts” and not “voluntary signups.” The women have voluntarily been in the military to this point because there was no danger. But when SHTF, women will all go home and scream that men have to go suffer and die.
Drafts were then. This is now.
But for a different reason. Even conscripted soldiers have to be given a reason to fight. They have to be convinced, because slave armies fail even faster than slave economies. It’s easy to work out why. Say you enslave a bunch of men. You tell them to go somewhere and fight and die for you. You give them no other reason than, “Because I say so.” Then, so that they can go out and fight for you, you give them guns…
Oops.
Once you give them the means to fight for you, you also give them the means to say, “No.” And back up that refusal. This is why the Soviets had to pump out all that “Mother Russia” propaganda back in WW2. They knew orders and threats were not enough. This is why the U.S. lost in Vietnam. The conscripts weren’t given a reason to fight. And since the Vietnam war the U.S. hasn’t dared another draft because they know it would fail. Miserably.
And european men today have no reason to fight moslems to protect european women. Orders to do so won’t change their minds.
The government cannot collapse.
Tell that to Rome. Or the Ottomans. Or the Soviet Union.
Governments collapse all the time. Usually for very similar reasons.
It can print money.
Funnily enough, that’s one of the favorite ways that governments collapse.
This process can not be reversed. Im sorry.
The future will looks like this : China and India are finally superpowers. USA (Australia and Japan also) are the last remnants of the Western World. Europe will collapse, however, fear not for islamic conquest; one Europe is sufficiently weak the Russian Federation will come in force into eastern and central Europe, with tanks and armies. The Western Europe will collapse, and revisit far right political spectrum of the 1930-45s. USA is by that time stagnant, and is no longer a superpower, leaving only Russia and the 2 new superpowers mentioned above.Why will this happen ?
Inertia of political, social and economic decisions has already sealed how the future will develop. Islam is not just a religion, its also politics. Masculinity is not a trait which can be raised back up at will, it would take decades to do; time Western Civilization no longer has.There is also a (very distinct) possibility of a Global Conflict sometime by 2018-2021. In that scenario, the entire global civilization will implode on it self, and its impossible to say what will happen after.
Don’t bother fixing it, its too late for that. Simply use the time what is still left to us, the Western World, to enjoy life to the fullest. Next stop is global calamity and/or another Great War.
This process can not be reversed. Im sorry.
The future will looks like this : China and India are finally superpowers. USA (Australia and Japan also) are the last remnants of the Western World. Europe will collapse, however, fear not for islamic conquest; one Europe is sufficiently weak the Russian Federation will come in force into eastern and central Europe, with tanks and armies. The Western Europe will collapse, and revisit far right political spectrum of the 1930-45s. USA is by that time stagnant, and is no longer a superpower, leaving only Russia and the 2 new superpowers mentioned above.Why will this happen ?
Inertia of political, social and economic decisions has already sealed how the future will develop. Islam is not just a religion, its also politics. Masculinity is not a trait which can be raised back up at will, it would take decades to do; time Western Civilization no longer has.There is also a (very distinct) possibility of a Global Conflict sometime by 2018-2021. In that scenario, the entire global civilization will implode on it self, and its impossible to say what will happen after.
Don’t bother fixing it, its too late for that. Simply use the time what is still left to us, the Western World, to enjoy life to the fullest. Next stop is global calamity and/or another Great War.
I don’t think US economy can ever collapse. I remember seeing a documentary on Nat Geo that given its strategic position and history, US has secured its economy forever.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
I don’t think US economy can ever collapse. I remember seeing a documentary on Nat Geo that given its strategic position and history, US has secured its economy forever.
If only I had enough f~~~s to give this the response it needs.
tl;dr: They thought the same thing back in 1928.
Hi there!
“I don’t think US economy can ever collapse. I remember seeing a documentary on Nat Geo that given its strategic position and history, US has secured its economy forever.”
I never said US economy would collapse, although its certainly no longer as dominant as it once where. Nothing is forever. Not even the sun. That said, US will remain a center of the Western World, if only due to its geographical location. Its the Western Europe, which is done.
In poker, knowing then to fold, is as valuable a skill, as knowing then to raise/call/bluff. The time for European Civilization to fold, is now. Take ur chips and move to USA, if u can. There is also Russian Federation, but its not really the same values which we associate with the Western World; its a Byzantine Civilization, with some very different values. Japan is another good place to go, if u can find a way in, also Australia, New Zealand, Argentina and a number of other nations away from Europe.
Anonymous5Want to see the future of Europe? Read this article then buy the book. Horrifying, made my blood boil as I compared the current reality parallels to the book.
http://thinkingmansguidetotheworld.blogspot.com/2010/12/book-review-caliphate-by-tom-kratman.html
Absolutely astonishing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’d think it’d be astonishing if it was written 6 months ago,,,,but published in 2008??????????
The futuristic plot isn’t supposed to happen till 2021-22 but it’s already happening.Thanks Chir, much appreciated.
Anonymous1Okay, let’s try this again.
BadKan wrote:
Tell me, how is that they respect the masculine
Islam respects STRENTH, good old fashioned testosterone induced POWER. They do not bitch and moan about rights and beg for permission, they take ACTION.
Yes they KILL those that oppose them. That is MASCULINE, that is POWER, writing a few cartoons is not Masculine, unfortunately Western Gynocentric Feminist indoctrinated men are NOT MASCULINE.
They RESPECT the masculine by respecting STRENGTH and POWER .
Violence is not STRENGHT. Testosterone induces AGGRESSIVE behavior, but AGGRESSIVE behavior and VIOLENCE are not necessry related. Look at psycopaths. They have one of the most PASSIVE behaviors you will ever see. And yet, they commit the most EXTREME acts of VIOLENCE. Look at the Bonobos and Chimapnzees. The males of later, with a greater sexual dimorphism, have more aggressive behaviors than the former. And yet, the ACTS of violence they show towards their females are far less SEVERE that the acts of violence the female of the BONOBOS show towards their MALES. BONOBOS males are often multilated and injuried by the females. The same doesn’t occur at the same frequency, with the same DEGREE with the CHIMPANZEES. Who do you think have more TESTOSTERONE?
KILLING who oppose them on the realm of ideas is not MASCULINE. REASON is MASCULINE. CIVILIZATION was BUILT by MEN of REASON. THAT is MASCULINE. Islam behaves on the most BARBARIC and STUPID WAYS, abandoning any type of REASONING or DYPLOMACY, almost always for FEMALE ATTENTION or under FEMALE VALUES (remember, men can’t control themselves when seeing the female form. WOMEN, according to ISLAM, are THAT POWERFUL). That is GYNOCENTRIC as hell.
BadKan wrote:
Or because their WOMAN told them so?
That is a western gynocentric feminist indoctrinated man, NOT a Muslim.
Check SAN BERNADINO then.
The MAN was AMERICAN citizen. It was his WIFE that had contacts from terrorist involved on PARIS ATTACKS and from other countries. Now, that is just speculation, but I would BET that he did what he did because SHE said so. And I bet SHE used ISLAM to convince him to do it. HE WAS A MUSLIM, SO WAS SHE.
BadKan wrote:
They portrait men as animals that need a leash
Yes I do agree, that is correct. And they LIMIT women’s actions, and put the responsibility back onto woman to be modest. Compare that to what we have here.
How is women being modest a concern of mine? And how is this proof of responsability? And are you willing to be treated as AN ANIMAL in exchange for WOMEN to dress in a MORE MODEST WAY? I am not. Besides, that just show how importance you give to women. You are willing to be compared (and treated) like an animal in exchange for WOMEN to HIDE their BODIES. You are a f~~~ing moron, that lacks self control.
And, as Benjamin Franklin would say:
”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.”
BadKan wrote:
How is it keeping woman in check when they think that a woman OPENING THEIR LEGS is equivalent to a man’s LIFETIME HARD WORK? That is not keeping woman in check, that is keeping men on a leash.
You are confusing western laws, women under Islam have limited rights, extreme, YES, in men’s best interest? Definately.
How am I confusing what am I saying with western laws? Isn’t removing all the RESPONSABILITIES from women and placing them on MEN not what Islam preaches? Isn’t the MEN and ONLY the MEN RESPONSIBLE for the survival of the HOUSEHOLD? Isn’t, under Islam, any money that a woman makes, for the woman to keep, but the money the MAN makes, to be used to sustain the family? How, in the NINE HELLS, is this on MEN BEST INTERESTS?!?! You have no idea how to manage money, do you?
BadKan wrote:
Well, than correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t apostates sentenced to DEATH under Sharia Law?
Exactly, no f~~~ing around, is it extreme and harsh? Definitely, but its consistent and demands respect.
Ok, so here is where I draw the line. Here is where me being “respectful” goes out the window. You son of a bitch. Are you DEFENDING the MURDER of PEOPLE simply because they THINK DIFFERENTLY? You bastard. You are not better than the current gynocentric system. In fact, you are the FEMINSIT wet dream! You would KILL, or DEFEND KILLING people simply because they DON’T AGREE WITH YOU.
I am calling now, you are a bloody SJW.
BadKan wrote:
Isn’t the death on non-muslims EXCUSABLE under ISLAM?
Probably, but I am suggesting if we became Muslim we would have a better environment than what we have now.
How the f~~~, is BEING FORCED to convert to a RELIGION BETTER? How, in the none hells, being KILLED if refusing to do so, better? How, is having your FREEDOMS taken AWAY for an IDEOLOGY, better?!?!
You are retarded.
BadKan wrote:
Isn’t permissible male infants have their penis mutilated (circumcision), under ISLAM?
Yes, true that is a price.
I see. Not only you are willing to throw your rights and freedoms out of the window for pussy (4 wives, remember), but you are willing to f~~~ over baby boys as well.
You f~~~ing bastard.
BadKan wrote:
Isn’t it ok for a man RAPE NON-MUSLIM WOMEN, and CHILDREN under Islam?
I think that is an EXTREME you are referring to, isn’t it just as common for priests to fiddle with children?
And here, we have a false equivalence. Tell me, how many THOUSANDS, if not MILLIONS, of “catholic priests” are invading Europe right now? How many gangs of catholic priests are KIDNAPPING and RAPING children, on the streets of Germany, right now? How many mainstream outlets are COVERING UP the assaults of said catholic priests? How many catholic priests are KILLING innocent bystanders because they are not CRISTIANS?!? And how many catholic priests are defending THEIR CHURCH above the STATE?!?
Yes, both groups exist. But not only one is happening in a CONSIDERABLY LARGER AMMOUNT than the other, but one group is not even COMPARABLE to the OTHER. And only one is being DEFENDED, not only by the MEDIA and FEMINISM, but aparently, by some MEMBERS of this forum.
BadKan wrote:
Rotherham
A perfect example of the Feminized West being weak as p~~~ letting a bunch of organised thugs get away with anything. Do you really think they would have got away with that s~~~ under Islam?
Listen, you c~~~. Rotherham happened because of the FEAR to CRITICIZE possible MUSLIMS! You, in a few paragraphs above, just DEFENDED the MURDER of people that DON’T THINK like you. You just DEFENDED the MUTILATION of BABY BOYS. This HAPPENED BECAUSE the POLICE thought the very way you just DEFENDED. You can’t use the VERY EXAMPLE that shows the FLAW of ISLAM to UPHOLD it.
You are a freaking Social Justice Warrior, and your circular reasoning is showing.
BadKan wrote:
If this isn’t blue pill, I don’t know what is. We have discussed extensively on this site how ONE wife can ruin your life. And that is even without the laws being against you, and you are gloating that “under Islam we are allowed to have FOUR”?
I’m afraid you miss the point, it is the feminized laws that are the problem.
You are confusing the situation we have currently with an entirely new paradigm.No, you piece of s~~~. There is nothing MASCULINE on being responsible for 4 GROWN UP WOMEN. This “masculine” is the gynocentric version. You are not preaching any “new” paradigm, you are defending the return of the OLD one, on STEROIDS, under a FACIST form of GOVERMENT.
BadKan wrote:
Yeaaaaah, except that you are not allowed to go your own way either. Again, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t there already sharia law patrols in the UK that harassed ANYONE that didn’t follow STRICTLY the rules of ISLAM? Tell me, how does this DO NOT conflict with the MGTOW lifestyle?
Those laws mainly apply to woman, their attire and behavior, which quite frankly I would suggest are superior to what we face at the moment. I do not see how women’s attire affect my MGTOW lifestyle.
The only other limitation I can see is on alcohol.Bulls~~~. The Sharia Law Patrols in the UK were forcing EVERYONE to follow the rules of Islam. And YOU were the one, in the begining of the response to PRAISE “women dressing in a more modest way” as an ADVANTAGE of ISLAM. And now you say you don’t care? F~~~ off, you hypocrite. And, not only that, but you see no problem in sharia law patrols controlling how grown up MEN SPEND THEIR TIME? Just because you can “only” see one restriction on MEN’s lyfestyle, doesn’t mean there is only that restriction. And by the way, ONE restriction is ONE too many! I will not trade being slave to women, for being slave to SHARIA. You, and your Sharia FRIENDS, can F~~~ OFF!
BadKan wrote:
Under Islam, we lose everything if we are not muslims. Since I am NOT willing to exchange my FREEDOM for some cheap ass ideology, count me out.
I am willing to do whatever it takes for a shot at a better life, where I free myself from Gynocracy.
Not only you are not freeing yourself from gynocentrism, but you are exchanging your FREEDOMS for a far WORSE MASTER.
I already mentioned Benjamin Franklin, so now let me mention Samuel Adams for this one:
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
And one addenum from me:
“Go f~~~ yourself”
BadKan wrote:
Survivor is not the only one under the “blue pill” influence. In fact, he might be a woman (I got that impression too), but you, if you really think Islam (sharia law) is not one of the bluest pill religion/ideology out there, you are insane.
I would like to highlight that I have maintained my respect, without trying to shame, and I am honestly after insight as I am totally fed up of the current Gynocentric system. I am looking at alternatives, in pursuit of a better way.
Well, unfortunatly for you, this is a PC free zone. Ever wonder why this is a space not safe for women? Because we don’t hold punches. And I certanly will not hold back when arguing with a facist, blue piller, pussy beggar, like yourself.
You are not looking for a better way, you are looking for a better “master”. And you have no respect for your own freedoms, why the f~~~ should I respect you? Respect is earned, not given, and you lost any possibility of earning, you facist scum.
We are all under the “blue pill” influence, I have moved beyond that now and am willing to look at alternatives.
I am not on your group. “We” are not under “blue pill” influence. YOU ARE. But instead of going the PUA route, and try to get women using, at least some type of diplomacy, you decided you want pussy taken by FORCE. Your “alternative” is going back to the most primitive “gynocentric system possible”. Once again, go f~~~ yourself.
You have failed to logically argue how I am worse off converting to Islam under Islamic rule.
Remember the cardinal rule: What is in it for me? Remember…F~~~ everyone else…Now how blue pill is that for you?You are confusing “logic” with “dogma”. I showed you, with REAL LIFE examples and valid and sound arguments how ISLAM is a blue pill ideology. No wonder FEMINSIM doesn’t criticize ISLAM.
As for convincing you? You should read the Samuel Adams quote, again. I do not care what you do with your f~~~ing life. Convert to Islam for all I care. If you think that it is not gyoncentric, you will have a surprise. You said, in the begining of your response this:
I am not an expert on Islam
The truth is: you don’t have the MOST BASIC KNOWLEDGE of it. Most of my criticism, when you didn’t deflected the argument with some non-sequitor or false equivalence, you would simply agree. And yet, you think ISLAM is compatible with MGTOW? This tells a lot about your “thirst of knowledge”, or “freedom of the pussy”.
But go ahead, convert to Islam. Just f~~~ing stay away from me, or the ones that are close to me. You, and your “sharia friends” can f~~~ off, for all I care.
And by the way, as I said before, you are a f~~~ing SJW. I don’t even think you are a c~~~, just a bloody beta cuck.
@BadKan, I have no interest in entering a shaming competition with you, I prefer to pragmatically act upon reason and logic. I don’t take limited examples of ad-hoc events as evidence.
I believe you are limited by your inability to see beyond the programming we have all been indoctrinated with, you are clutching at straws, preferring to shame where you are unable to make a logical argument.
I wish you all the best, and hope you are good in whatever delusion you choose to believe.When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
I think most of us, including myself, don’t really Islam too well. Do you have any backing for the MGTOW part?
@phoenix, I am not an expert on Islam, that is why I posted the questions, with all due respect I find that argument disingenuous, I can just as easily ask do you have any backing for Islam being anti-MGTOW?
Tell me, how is that they respect the masculine
Islam respects STRENTH, good old fashioned testosterone induced POWER. They do not bitch and moan about rights and beg for permission, they take ACTION.
Yes they KILL those that oppose them. That is MASCULINE, that is POWER, writing a few cartoons is not Masculine, unfortunately Western Gynocentric Feminist indoctrinated men are NOT MASCULINE.
They RESPECT the masculine by respecting STRENGTH and POWER .
Or because their WOMAN told them so?
That is a western gynocentric feminist indoctrinated man, NOT a Muslim.
They portrait men as animals that need a leash
Yes I do agree, that is correct. And they LIMIT women’s actions, and put the responsibility back onto woman to be modest. Compare that to what we have here.
How is it keeping woman in check when they think that a woman OPENING THEIR LEGS is equivalent to a man’s LIFETIME HARD WORK? That is not keeping woman in check, that is keeping men on a leash.
You are confusing western laws, women under Islam have limited rights, extreme, YES, in men’s best interest? Definately.
Well, than correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t apostates sentenced to DEATH under Sharia Law?
Exactly, no f~~~ing around, is it extreme and harsh? Definitely, but its consistent and demands respect.
Isn’t the death on non-muslims EXCUSABLE under ISLAM?
Probably, but I am suggesting if we became Muslim we would have a better environment than what we have now.
Isn’t permissible male infants have their penis mutilated (circumcision), under ISLAM?
Yes, true that is a price.
Isn’t it ok for a man RAPE NON-MUSLIM WOMEN, and CHILDREN under Islam?
I think that is an EXTREME you are referring to, isn’t it just as common for priests to fiddle with children?
Rotherham
A perfect example of the Feminized West being weak as p~~~ letting a bunch of organised thugs get away with anything. Do you really think they would have got away with that s~~~ under Islam?
If this isn’t blue pill, I don’t know what is. We have discussed extensively on this site how ONE wife can ruin your life. And that is even without the laws being against you, and you are gloating that “under Islam we are allowed to have FOUR”?
I’m afraid you miss the point, it is the feminized laws that are the problem.
You are confusing the situation we have currently with an entirely new paradigm.wives, over which you have TOTAL rights.
You have total rights over your wives, perhaps I didn’t communicate clearly enough.
Yeaaaaah, except that you are not allowed to go your own way either. Again, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t there already sharia law patrols in the UK that harassed ANYONE that didn’t follow STRICTLY the rules of ISLAM? Tell me, how does this DO NOT conflict with the MGTOW lifestyle?
Those laws mainly apply to woman, their attire and behavior, which quite frankly I would suggest are superior to what we face at the moment. I do not see how women’s attire affect my MGTOW lifestyle.
The only other limitation I can see is on alcohol.Under Islam, we lose everything if we are not muslims. Since I am NOT willing to exchange my FREEDOM for some cheap ass ideology, count me out.
I am willing to do whatever it takes for a shot at a better life, where I free myself from Gynocracy.
Survivor is not the only one under the “blue pill” influence. In fact, he might be a woman (I got that impression too), but you, if you really think Islam (sharia law) is not one of the bluest pill religion/ideology out there, you are insane.
I would like to highlight that I have maintained my respect, without trying to shame, and I am honestly after insight as I am totally fed up of the current Gynocentric system. I am looking at alternatives, in pursuit of a better way.
We are all under the “blue pill” influence, I have moved beyond that now and am willing to look at alternatives.
You have failed to logically argue how I am worse off converting to Islam under Islamic rule.
Remember the cardinal rule: What is in it for me? Remember…F~~~ everyone else…Now how blue pill is that for you?Ever wonder why there are not that many Muslim MGTOW?
Any possibility that the reason lies within them having rights and a positive environment?Muslims are FAR AND AWAY the worst pussy beggars I have ever known. They have NO SELF RESPECT when it comes to women and they are basically totally simps and pussy begging bitches.
I AM an expert on Muslims as I have spent about 10 years living an working in Muslim countries..
Those guys are NEVER MGTOW…. not in a million years…. All they think of is women and they are all BUSTING to get married, they literally have no other conception of life or other possibilities….. they have no hobbies and inerests except Koran and Football.
Muslims are what they are… Just people whose reality has been limited and confined to a single book of dubious authorship…..
Muslims as people are generally great guys, but mostly they are hypocrites and always trying to find a way to shag a woman, and even when they get a woman they want more….. many Muslims have two, three or more sexual partners…..
Pussy beggars for the most part…… don’t let them fool you with their fake piety….. it’s mostly only skin-deep for a lot of them……
They’d probably give it all up for the occasional orgy…. that’s shy those idiots join ISIS, they get tempted in by sex with white girls……
That’s all it takes to turn some of these people away from God, sex with a chunky white girl….
I should add to the previous post that Muslims go MGTOW after maybe 20 years of marriage… you find them all, tired cynical old men, smoking and drinking tea in the cafe, with a room full of men….. just glad that there’s no women nagging them and breaking their b~~~~…
Muslims only figure out the MGTOW path when it’s FAR FAR TOO LATE.
When their once pretty wife has become a hippo with the face of a rotweiller and they have kids running around everywhere and all the women clucking around like fat-hens….. the men then take refuge in the ahawa or local coffee house….. where they sit with men and watch football (soccer) for the rest of their lives…..
If the Muslim world was MGTOW then there’s no way the men would let their women turn into giant fat lumps once they’ve had a few children…..
The men for the most part all keep trim, but the women literally don’t give a f~~~ what they look like anymore…… People say American women have weight problems? Go to Morocco and Egypt and look at all the fatties rolling around the streets and reassess which country has the biggest health problem….
Especially as these countries can so ill-afford hospital treatment for lardy fatties having heart attacks and cancer.
They’re so dumb that they think being overweight is actually a sign of wealth….that the more you can eat and the fatter you are indicates that you are rich and can afford lots of food.
The sheer feminine stupidity of such a way of thinking trumps anything that silly western women can come up with don’t you think?
The women and mangina’s created this mess. They can clean it up.
Islam declared itself my enemy, as I am not muslim, nor will I ever be, nor will I abide by their rules, so enemy it is.
I am capable and willing to help them meet allah.Why should I stand and protect or die for people that won’t do that for me?
I already did that, got the medal and T-shirt, and I’m done with it.There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
The women and mangina’s created this mess. They can clean it up.
Islam declared itself my enemy, as I am not muslim, nor will I ever be, nor will I abide by their rules, so enemy it is.
I am capable and willing to help them meet allah.Why should I stand and protect or die for people that won’t do that for me?
I already did that, got the medal and T-shirt, and I’m done with it.You don’t need to look for enemies dude….. It’s much better not to fight…. just let all the dummies bang their heads together while you sit there smiling and sipping your scotch…
That’s a real MGTOW approach…
We don’t need to fight Muslims, they’ll fight amongst themselves, Sunni Vs Shiite…. Afghan vs Syrian….
The Arab countries all hate each other…..and neighbours like Morocco and Algeria hate each other the most…
Why deflect that hatred by being their enemy and letting them hate you? Let them hate and destroy each other if they want… who cares. Not my problem…I’m going my own way.
Fighting invented enemies and engineered crisis makes you a puppet on someone else’s string….
I don’t mind Muslims, they’re people like all of us, we have a common humanity…..Personally I believe they have been badly tricked about their religion and they do not know that it was created by the Jews of Arabia to create an army to conquer Christianity….
That’s life….history is one big f~~~ up.
Doesn’t stop me enjoying my scotch though.
Women are begging now for the beta males to protect them from the big, bad muslims.
They created a world that opresses, laughs and spits on the hard working, honest and decent white males.
And now, once again its men that have to solve them problem women created…
Im just sick of this cycle.
Women f~~~ up, men end up cleaning the crap and we dont even get recognition for it.
Not this time.
Go beg at your feminazis for help.
Anonymous1Badkan, agrees with me, but still must call me a woman. Awesome!
Well, if Im not mistaken, you did try to shame Phoenix into “fighting muslims” because “he is a man”, at least that was the impression I got from the last post I read.
I don’t agree with that. I think men are not obligated to do s~~~. Whatever they do, they should do on their OWN VOLITION, and not because “penis”. I don’t agree with Phoenix in many aspects, judging by the posts I read from him so far. But he is not preaching, for example, that “men MUST go ghosting” or else. If ghosting is his thing, and that is his way, so be it.
Will I do the same as him? Hell no. I like civilization and the perks that comes with it. But I will not give him s~~~ for him doing so.
I am not saying that Mgtow is an YOLO ideology either, there ARE things that one must agree in order to go their own way. Doing whatever it is, for the approval of OTHERS, isn’t going your own way though. I don’t think men shouldn’t get married “because mgtow said so”. We (or at least I) will not get married because it does not only not benefit me, but it would actually harm me. Will I shame men that want to get married? Nope. As long as they don’t try to push marriage on me ignoring not only the demerits of the institution, but my RIGHT of doing WHATEVER I want with MY life without being GUILT tripped into doing what is “best” for the collective.
Is the same with this website. We are all here, because we agree enough to actually band together: even if it is only virtually and on certain topics.
What I saw you doing, is trying to say that man MUST fight Islam. No, men mustn’t. Men should start thinking about THEMSELVES for a change. Which is why I said, in the end of my very polite and calm reply, that I don’t give a crap if AFT converts to Islam or not. Is his f~~~ing life. What I oppose, and will fight against, or flee from, is tyranny. He is defending the MURDER and OPPRESSION of anyone that don’t abide to Islam laws, well, I am not a muslim, neither I want to be one, so he can shove those laws up his ass.
And you were trying to push the “we MUST fight agaisnt Islam” to people, because penis. Well, I think you know my answer for that. I will NOT do ANYTHING (or at least try to, I’m human after all) because of SHAME. Either I do because I WANT to, because it BENEFITS me, because the REWARDS are ACTUALLY SUPPRASS the SACRIFICES, or I don’t. And even then, the choice is mine, and MINE alone. I don’t need, neither want anyone else DICTATING how I live my life. Suggestions are welcome (and criticism too) but in the end, the choice is MINE, and having a penis doesn’t come with any contract of TERM and SERVICES. That is what you were doing though, and that is usually how a WOMAN does things. Never by herself, but by DEMANDING others (a.k.a men) doing her biding for her. Even directly or through some false sense of DUTY.
That is my logic. And that is why I called you a woman.
If civilization crumbles, and men decide to do nothing, I will not guilt trip men. Men are not MACHINES whose ONLY purpose is to sacrifice THEMSELVES for OTHERS, despite having the insticts to do so. Which means, if it comes to that (end of civilization), it just means not only that women and their associates failed to give ANYTHING worth fighting for to begin with, but that they were also incapable to follow what they preached. The only thing MEN MUST DO is to pursue THEIR INDIVIDUAL happiness. That is what made Western Civilization great, and the lack of opportunities for men keep doing so is what will cause its demise.
You are free to disagree.
Cheers
Anonymous3^I have no problems with people disagreeing, I respect other people’s viewpoints even if they contradict my own. What I dislike is the imperative and when people start insulting and shaming someone just because they disagree with them.
I actually agree with pretty much everything BadKan wrote.
And I will point out, what I initially wrote and which is being overlooked, the real enemy is the State. Even if you did fight the Jihadis, their government is hell bent on bringing more in. You strike 1 down and 10 replace them. You’ll never win that battle.
This is why in the US people support Trump. He’s a s~~~ty choice for President, but everyone else is worse and at least he is saying he’ll stop some of the most ridiculous things that the government keeps doing.
You have to protest your government, and if they still ignore you, which they will, that is when you have to fight them for your freedom. The Founding Fathers of America were all classified as terrorists by the UK. They were accused of being criminals, being immoral, not fighting the proper honorable way etc. Bullies and the people in charge always want to disarm their victims, both physically and mentally. That is also why I am so against this gun control bulls~~~ the US keeps trying to push through, and which the Founding Fathers specifically granted American citizens. What they didn’t grant was for women to have a vote, but I digress.
I hesitate to really even bother writing this stuff. But at some level the truth must be written sometimes. IMO.
the real enemy is the State
On that I hope we can all agree, well more precisely an over bloated controlling State. A minimalist state is what we need, as was proposed originally in your American Constitution.
I will not entertain Marxism, in any shape or form, and that is precisely what the west is becoming if not already there.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
Anonymous5Can’t anyone see the obvious?
This isn’t begging from women, this is shaming!
In one single move they’ve shifted the blame from themselves and their welcoming parades (which is the cause of this) to,,,,,,men’s fault for not protecting them!
Women got these refugees into Europe through Facebook by shaming anyone who objected.
But now their good Samaritan tactics have caused the obvious consequences,,,,from here on in women will put all blame on men for everything these “refugees” do.
It’s all going to be men’s fault,,,,,,for not “Manning up!”
Nice sleight of hand,,,a typical marriage tactic.This all happened through Facebook,,,just like the many changes of regimes in the Middle East in the last few years.
Anyone who under-estimates the political power of Facebook doesn’t really understand the world we live in now.
Any politician who ignores it loses office.
Right now, there’s the biggest mass hysteria of Stockholm/Munich syndrome in history going on.
Women are so terrifiied of ISIS and Muslims they never stop posting how wonderful and human 99% of Muslims are,,,especially the refugees.
Every time an act of terrorism happens there’ll be a wave of “feel-good” posts about Muslims being people!!!!Anyone silly enough to act on these harpie shame tactics will get the same treatment as the Denmark woman who used pepper spray to defend herself.
Do they expect you to go out at random attacking alleged Muslims who’ve committed alleged crimes.
You’ll find every man you attack has a name,,,,,and a solicitor.
Make no mistake, any victims of these vigilante attacks will become Facebook celebrity victim heros,,,and women will be the first to distance themselves from your actions.If I owned Facebook I’d remove it too because if anyone acted on it I’d be partially responsible and liable.
Forget all the “Man Up” s~~~,,,it’s an age old white feather tactic.
Too many millions of men have already died in the pursuit of women’s defenition of Manliness.- AuthorPosts
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